Vive vs Oculus: From a Developer — Oculus
New to the forums? Click here to read the "How To" Guide.

Developer? Click here to go to the Developer Forums.

Vive vs Oculus: From a Developer

MaxxgoldMaxxgold Posts: 351
Trinity
edited March 2016 in General
I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions. I'm sure none of this will come as a big surprise, but I will relay what he said to me.

Resolution: Oculus
He said both looked great but he felt the Oculus was sharper.

Weight: Oculus
He said the Oculus wasn't just a little lighter but quite a bit lighter.

Comfortable: Oculus
The Vive weighs more and is not nearly as comfortable.

Controller: Vive
He felt that the Vive was more accurate. It responded almost at one to one. He liked the Oculus touch controllers but he liked the response of the Vive controllers more.

Sound: Oculus
He said the sound was perfect for the Oculus. He said the fact that you do not have to add your own headphones is a big deal because of the hassle of putting on headphones on top of the VR unit. That and the weight plus how comfortable the Oculus headset is, is a big factor.

Room Scale: Vive
He was testing a game where you painted in 3D, and he said it was incredible. He was really impressed with the Vive for room scale.

Software: Oculus
He said Oculs has already made deals with a ton of big name software manufactures and has a big headstart. He felt that Vive will catch up and at some point may be the system to go with purely for gaming, but right now Oculus will have more titles available. I have already stated this but paying 800 dollars and getting a game like "Work Simulator" is a clear sign that there is not a lot of options for initial release games on the Vive.

He offered to get me a Vive if there is a title he feels I have to play, and I can't play it on the Oculus. Awesome friend!

In my posts in this forum I have maintained my desire to wait for my Oculus to show up, and everything he told me makes me feel confident that Oculus is the better choice right now. I don't want a heavier uncomfortable experience with the Vive and I have little interest in Room VR. He did say that I may change my mind with room VR, so I'll check it out, but I'm pretty confident I'm good with a seated experience. Oh he also really liked the Vive Chaperone.
«134

Comments

  • deanogurdeanogur Posts: 456
    Nexus 6
    It's good to get another perspective from someone who has experience beyond a demo with both units. There is no substitute for long-term use comparisons in real-life environments. I'm sure it won't be too long and we'll have had our fill of those though. :)

    That's pretty much how I feel about the Oculus for my use; it should be a very good fit.
  • CyberCubCyberCub Posts: 41
    Thanks and no offense but all I see is the result of various reviews that already exists out there and it's really a 50/50. One person loves one while another prefers the other option. When I clicked this forum topic I was hoping it was a direct source thought and review not the my brothers uncle former roommate said this.. The best reviewer is you and that's all what matters not what other say.

    But if you have access to try both now then you have great opportunity of try before you buy.
  • MaxxgoldMaxxgold Posts: 351
    Trinity
    CyberCub wrote:
    Thanks and no offense but all I see is the result of various reviews that already exists out there and it's really a 50/50. One person loves one while another prefers the other option. When I clicked this forum topic I was hoping it was a direct source thought and review not the my brothers uncle former roommate said this.. The best reviewer is you and that's all what matters not what other say.

    But if you have access to try both now then you have great opportunity of try before you buy.


    Yes, everyone that try's both will be able to make the best choice for themselves. I'm fine with my friends thoughts on VR and I stated that most of this stuff has already been reported. This is a direct source. Someone who has actually used both.People like you run around like chickens with their heads cut off crying about the sky falling. Note to self: If you don't have anything constructive to say then just keep it to yourself.
  • Mr.CreepyMr.Creepy Posts: 792
    Neo
    It's nice hearing an opinion from some one who has both and is giving an unbiased review. I am a little concerned that the vive controller responded better, as i am looking forwing to getting hand tracking but i am still sticking with the rift. Even if i wanted the vive i can't justify the price as that would be taken out of my new pc budget and especially not without a suitable space for room scale with lighthouse system.
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,134
    Wintermute
    Mr.Creepy wrote:
    It's nice hearing an opinion from some one who has both and is giving an unbiased review. I am a little concerned that the vive controller responded better, as i am looking forwing to getting hand tracking but i am still sticking with the rift.

    Presumably it's the reason they're not releasing the Touch controllers yet.
  • Mr.CreepyMr.Creepy Posts: 792
    Neo
    edmg wrote:
    Mr.Creepy wrote:
    It's nice hearing an opinion from some one who has both and is giving an unbiased review. I am a little concerned that the vive controller responded better, as i am looking forwing to getting hand tracking but i am still sticking with the rift.

    Presumably it's the reason they're not releasing the Touch controllers yet.

    I hope they can get it better, if they can improve the tracking at all. Not that i think it's bad anyway, i haven't heard anyone who tried them say anything about them not being accurate. Except from this guy of course.
  • CyberCubCyberCub Posts: 41
    Maxxgold wrote:
    CyberCub wrote:
    Thanks and no offense but all I see is the result of various reviews that already exists out there and it's really a 50/50. One person loves one while another prefers the other option. When I clicked this forum topic I was hoping it was a direct source thought and review not the my brothers uncle former roommate said this.. The best reviewer is you and that's all what matters not what other say.

    But if you have access to try both now then you have great opportunity of try before you buy.


    Yes, everyone that try's both will be able to make the best choice for themselves. I'm fine with my friends thoughts on VR and I stated that most of this stuff has already been reported. This is a direct source. Someone who has actually used both.People like you run around like chickens with their heads cut off crying about the sky falling. Note to self: If you don't have anything constructive to say then just keep it to yourself.

    Why are you so defensive? Ah, the power of the internet where hot heads get fired up taking things out of context and reading it the way they see fit to justify their irrational response. Glad its a friend to you but to me.. I do not know you and as such it is face value as rumor unless its a direct source to me. You are saying I run around saying sky is falling when I would only believe it if I actually seen it myself? You make absolutely no sense. Good day sir..

    For others reading sure hope this is entertainment for you all :)...
  • ThreeDeeVisionThreeDeeVision Posts: 2,087
    Honestly, this dev pretty much summed up my thoughts looking at what information and videos we have available right now. The Rift seems to have the edge in comfort, polish, and ease of use, while the Vive seems to have the edge in precision, scalability, and being the more complete VR solution.

    And I think price will be moot once we figure out what the Touch controllers plus 2nd Tracking camera will cost.
    i7 5960X @ 3.8 GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 PC2800 | GTX Titan X Pascal | Win 10 64 bit | Asus ROG PG348Q | EVGA X99 Classified
  • HiThere_HiThere_ Posts: 1,275
    3Jane
    Makes me wonder about the Sixense STEM : Unlike Touch it's tracking doesn't suffer from occlusion problems, but other then that I don't know how well they compare (Sixense STEM is expensive, but it's not like the Touch controllers are going to be cheap).

    Maybe it's a good thing Touch was delayed : I'll be looking forward to a Sixense STEM vs Touch review :)
  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    Maxxgold wrote:
    CyberCub wrote:
    Thanks and no offense but all I see is the result of various reviews that already exists out there and it's really a 50/50. One person loves one while another prefers the other option. When I clicked this forum topic I was hoping it was a direct source thought and review not the my brothers uncle former roommate said this.. The best reviewer is you and that's all what matters not what other say.

    But if you have access to try both now then you have great opportunity of try before you buy.


    Yes, everyone that try's both will be able to make the best choice for themselves. I'm fine with my friends thoughts on VR and I stated that most of this stuff has already been reported. This is a direct source. Someone who has actually used both.People like you run around like chickens with their heads cut off crying about the sky falling. Note to self: If you don't have anything constructive to say then just keep it to yourself.

    Actually he is right. All we got is your word for it and lets face it, "my friend who works for nasa and develops for VR,," does sound quite made up. Unless you actually provide proof that he works for nasa and is working with the vive / rift consumer editions(as you called it) for a project for Nasa. Until then, it is just that.. a rumor.
  • chtanchtan Posts: 92
    Hiro Protagonist
    I am skeptic about this claim as developer talks with figures and facts but 'feels like' is not the correct way of expression from a dev.
  • JakemanOculusJakemanOculus Posts: 512
    Neo
    WHAT VERSION OF EACH HEADSET PLZ

    I see a lot of comparisons between the Rift DK2 and the Vive Pre.

    i'm like derp
  • DreamwriterDreamwriter Posts: 1,101
    3Jane
    Maxxgold wrote:
    I have already stated this but paying 800 dollars and getting a game like "Work Simulator" is a clear sign that there is not a lot of options for initial release games on the Vive.
    Yeah, including one of the best, most fun games for Vive (Job Simulator) as well as one of the best examples of controller tracking is a sign there aren't a lot of options. Wait, what? And did you forget it also comes with TiltBrush and Fantastic Contraption?
  • VizionVRVizionVR Posts: 3,022
    Wintermute
    Couple of things:
    - The Company is called Oculus, the HMD is called Rift.
    - By talking to you, your NASA friend has potentially violated some pretty strict NDAs with both NASA and Oculus.
    Not a Rift fanboi. Not a Vive fanboi. I'm a VR fanboi. Get it straight.
  • zork2001zork2001 Posts: 538
    Trinity
    Oculus is coming out of the gate being higher resolution DK2, Vive is coming out of the gate being the first holodeck.
  • scottmc87scottmc87 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    zork2001 wrote:
    Oculus is coming out of the gate being higher resolution DK2, Vive is coming out of the gate being the first holodeck.

    SOMEONE HAS TO CREATE A WAY TO WALK INTO THE HOLODECK!!!! That would be the most incredible thing I've ever experienced. Or just to walk on the bridge of the ship. My goodness....
    Rig: Windows 10 | EVGA GTX 980ti Classified.| i5 6600k | 16gigs DDR4 3000mhz.

    DK2 (Owned)
    CV1 (Pre-Ordered)
    Vive (Pre-Ordered)
  • AshlesAshles Posts: 515
    Art3mis
    chtan wrote:
    I am skeptic about this claim as developer talks with figures and facts but 'feels like' is not the correct way of expression from a dev.
    This is the most ridiculous thing I have read all day. Have you ever actually met a developer? They don't make a machine code noise when they talk. They do often have opinions, emotions and feelings on how devices feel.

    I can't believe the 'skeptical' responses here. I have used both devices (for short periods of time) and nothing in the OP disagrees with my recollections (particularly the weight of the CV1 which struck me at the time as being unexpectedly light). But why people are trying to shoot down this reported experience is baffling - some people are a little too emotionally invested already in one HMD versus the other.
    Clearly both devices have a lot to offer and are appealing to many people so can't we consider this an all round good thing for VR?
    "Into every life a little fantasy must fall..."
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,134
    Wintermute
    zork2001 wrote:
    Vive is coming out of the gate being the first holodeck.

    But it's a real holodeck, where you walk into the walls after fifteen feet, rather than being able to keep walking as far as this episode's script requires.

    And I'm not looking forward to being trapped in the gangster-filled 1930s when it malfunctions yet again.
  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    Ashles wrote:
    chtan wrote:
    I am skeptic about this claim as developer talks with figures and facts but 'feels like' is not the correct way of expression from a dev.
    This is the most ridiculous thing I have read all day. Have you ever actually met a developer? They don't make a machine code noise when they talk. They do often have opinions, emotions and feelings on how devices feel.

    I can't believe the 'skeptical' responses here. I have used both devices (for short periods of time) and nothing in the OP disagrees with my recollections (particularly the weight of the CV1 which struck me at the time as being unexpectedly light). But why people are trying to shoot down this reported experience is baffling - some people are a little too emotionally invested already in one HMD versus the other.
    Clearly both devices have a lot to offer and are appealing to many people so can't we consider this an all round good thing for VR?

    Shoot him down?? Really? Do you really not understand that starting a post with "I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions" is skeptical to begin with?

    Simply put, he is bringing a lot of things as facts. Which for the most of us can't be proven yet. So they are nothing more but opinions and rumors. They could well be true, but none knows.
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,134
    Wintermute
    Syrellaris wrote:
    [Do you really not understand that starting a post with "I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions" is skeptical to begin with?

    Do you think NASA aren't experimenting with VR and don't have access to early headsets?
  • AshlesAshles Posts: 515
    Art3mis
    Syrellaris wrote:
    Shoot him down?? Really? Do you really not understand that starting a post with "I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions" is skeptical to begin with?
    No not really. NASA is using VR and AR, we know this. I don't see why it's so far fetched someone posting on the Oculus Developer Forums (which is what these are supposed to be) might know someone involved in such work.
    Simply put, he is bringing a lot of things as facts.
    He's expressing opinions. And the opinions seem a lot more balanced and well expressed than many I have seen on the forum.
    Which for the most of us can't be proven yet. So they are nothing more but opinions and rumors. They could well be true, but none knows.
    You mean like exactly the same as every single review from every single source on the internet? Yes, they are opinions. And if you want to imagine everything is made up then that's a funny way to live (and borderline solipsistic but let's not go there). What's the point you reading anyone's review or opinion if you're going to be skeptical of all of them (or is it only the ones that disagree with your preconceptions with which you disagree)?

    I have tried both HMDs and I did not disagree with any of the OPs comments (but I tried them much more briefly).
    "Into every life a little fantasy must fall..."
  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    edmg wrote:
    Syrellaris wrote:
    [Do you really not understand that starting a post with "I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions" is skeptical to begin with?

    Do you think NASA aren't experimenting with VR and don't have access to early headsets?

    Oh i'm pretty NASA is, but honestly anyone on the internet can claim "I have a friend who" etc, but there is just no way of knowing if it is true or not.
  • VizionVR wrote:
    Couple of things:
    - The Company is called Oculus, the HMD is called Rift.
    - By talking to you, your NASA friend has potentially violated some pretty strict NDAs with both NASA and Oculus.

    Maybe. However what he reported in this thread... Doesn't seem to be any information that isn't already available. I don't see any specs, pictures, notes about the software included, nothing. Just opinions or general observations that are indistinguishable from someone who doesn't even own one. I just don't see Oculus going after NASA for ????
  • Percy1983Percy1983 Posts: 1,410
    Wintermute
    I have a friend who works in pizza hut, he has a Dk2 and likes.

    I will say the opinions posted here do mirror what many other comparisons have said, this doesn't make things true but when many people are saying the same thing there is a decent chance it is true.
    Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 + 16GB RAM 1866mhz + i5-3570K at 4.5Ghz + Coolermaster Nepton 140XL cooler
    Sapphire 8GB RX 580 Nitro+
    256Gb SDD Samsung Evo 850 +3x2TB in raid 0 with 64GB SSD cache
    Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition + Toughpower 875w
  • AntDX3162AntDX3162 Posts: 839
    Trinity
    Just get both. Does any one even know if the Vive is firmware upgradeable? Oculus DKs were.

    HTC should of just developed the controllers for Oculus and sold them as a manufacturer.
    facebook.com/AntDX316
  • TrytipedTrytiped Posts: 267
    Nexus 6
    Maxxgold wrote:
    I have a great friend who works for NASA. Yes NASA is actually doing VR. He has used both Oculs and the Vive consumer versions. I'm sure none of this will come as a big surprise, but I will relay what he said to me.

    Resolution: Oculus
    He said both looked great but he felt the Oculus was sharper.

    Weight: Oculus
    He said the Oculus wasn't just a little lighter but quite a bit lighter.

    Comfortable: Oculus
    The Vive weighs more and is not nearly as comfortable.

    Controller: Vive
    He felt that the Vive was more accurate. It responded almost at one to one. He liked the Oculus touch controllers but he liked the response of the Vive controllers more.

    Sound: Oculus
    He said the sound was perfect for the Oculus. He said the fact that you do not have to add your own headphones is a big deal because of the hassle of putting on headphones on top of the VR unit. That and the weight plus how comfortable the Oculus headset is, is a big factor.

    Room Scale: Vive
    He was testing a game where you painted in 3D, and he said it was incredible. He was really impressed with the Vive for room scale.

    Software: Oculus
    He said Oculs has already made deals with a ton of big name software manufactures and has a big headstart. He felt that Vive will catch up and at some point may be the system to go with purely for gaming, but right now Oculus will have more titles available. I have already stated this but paying 800 dollars and getting a game like "Work Simulator" is a clear sign that there is not a lot of options for initial release games on the Vive.

    He offered to get me a Vive if there is a title he feels I have to play, and I can't play it on the Oculus. Awesome friend!

    In my posts in this forum I have maintained my desire to wait for my Oculus to show up, and everything he told me makes me feel confident that Oculus is the better choice right now. I don't want a heavier uncomfortable experience with the Vive and I have little interest in Room VR. He did say that I may change my mind with room VR, so I'll check it out, but I'm pretty confident I'm good with a seated experience. Oh he also really liked the Vive Chaperone.

    Really appreciate this review/opinion truly makes me feel even happier about my decision to stick with Oculus :)
    giphy.gif
  • VizionVRVizionVR Posts: 3,022
    Wintermute
    Let's just hug it out and agree that BOTH HMDs suck. :P
    Not a Rift fanboi. Not a Vive fanboi. I'm a VR fanboi. Get it straight.
  • rogueqdrogueqd Posts: 148
    Hiro Protagonist
    VizionVR wrote:
    Let's just hug it out and agree that BOTH HMDs suck. :P
    Haha, good idea. I hope "they" can also agree that CV2 will be superior to Vive2 in both length and girth.
  • ThreeDeeVisionThreeDeeVision Posts: 2,087
    My grandma said that VR might be a thing someday, so I am going with the Oculus Vive!

    :shock:
    i7 5960X @ 3.8 GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 PC2800 | GTX Titan X Pascal | Win 10 64 bit | Asus ROG PG348Q | EVGA X99 Classified
  • chtanchtan Posts: 92
    Hiro Protagonist
    Ashles wrote:
    chtan wrote:
    I am skeptic about this claim as developer talks with figures and facts but 'feels like' is not the correct way of expression from a dev.
    This is the most ridiculous thing I have read all day. Have you ever actually met a developer? They don't make a machine code noise when they talk. They do often have opinions, emotions and feelings on how devices feel.

    I can't believe the 'skeptical' responses here. I have used both devices (for short periods of time) and nothing in the OP disagrees with my recollections (particularly the weight of the CV1 which struck me at the time as being unexpectedly light). But why people are trying to shoot down this reported experience is baffling - some people are a little too emotionally invested already in one HMD versus the other.
    Clearly both devices have a lot to offer and are appealing to many people so can't we consider this an all round good thing for VR?

    I mean talk with proper spec. to support the comments not thru. feeling. Especially if he is from NASA/dev. "Feel like" is our common folks way of expressing our bias opinion. Without spec. and substances, I highly doubt that he/she is dev in NASA. Any one can be a dev in who know want that they wannabe.
    I am getting both devices so I am not siding any party here although my priority is to get Vive.
Sign In or Register to comment.