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Oculus Video - poor quality for the videos

When I watch videos through oculus video app they are playing in 480p quality or lower which I doubt is the source quality of those videos. There is no button or option that I can find where it would let me to choose the quality of videos to be played/streamed.
It is really hard to get immersive with pixels floating all over the screen.
It isn't my PC or network problem cause I can easily play youtube 4k videos without stuttering.

Anyone has a tip how to play higher quality 360 videos or youtube 360 without getting the VR desktop app (which, in my opinion should be included in oculus apps)?

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  • ChoronzonChoronzon Posts: 341
    Nexus 6
    It's the nature of current VR resolution - you're going to get screendoor (individual pixels/black mesh) whether the vid is 480p or 4K.
  • DreamwriterDreamwriter Posts: 1,101
    3Jane
    360 degree videos are usually a single 1080p frame for the entire 360 degrees, so yes it's going to look low-res when you are only looking at a small part of a 1080p image. Newer cameras like the Gear 360 capture it in 4K, those will look a lot better.
  • SebbiSebbi Posts: 92
    Brain Burst
    edited June 2016
    Why do people reply if they don't have a clue?

    TheWario is absolutely right. We have a 50 mbit connection and Facebook 360 videos in Oculus Video are blocky as hell while being perfect when played on the Facebook website. This is clearly not a resolution problem of the Rift or a 1080p video blown up on a 360° dome ... it looks more like compression artifacts and a much lower res video being blown up ...

    On the Gear VR I sometimes get a higher quality version to stream, but on the Rift itself no luck so far.

    Why is there no option to select the quality we want to stream and/or to buffer the whole stream before playing?
  • StreetPreacherStreetPreacher Posts: 224
    Nexus 6
    Do any of the VR 360 Video sites offer high quality visuals?  I've tried all of them, and they all look horrible.  The Jaunt McCartney stuff is nearly unwatchable, and the other stuff I've seen is very cool, but just horrible quality.

    For instance the Seinfeld Q&A thing from the Saturday Night Live 40th Anniversary just looks horrible.  It's amazing in theory, being able to check out all of the celebrities sitting in the crowd, but the experience is just ruined by the terrible video quality...

    Are there ANY of these 360 VR videos that actually look good? 
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,456 Valuable Player
    Are there ANY of these 360 VR videos that actually look good? 
    No.


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  • Ricktor_BlackRicktor_Black Posts: 198
    Art3mis
    Yeah, I've been wondering this as well.  Almost all of the 180 and 360 video I've seen on the rift is pretty bad.
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,456 Valuable Player
    edited June 2016
    The thing is 180 degree 4k porn videos have the novelty of the actress being close to the camera so you can excuse the loss of quality elsewhere in the shot. 360 is just worse all round.

    I think 360 videos are simply too ambitious for the current tech although OTOY have some excellent HQ static scenes which give hope that one day videos will have the same quality. Current 360 videos are not a good advert for VR.


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  • StreetPreacherStreetPreacher Posts: 224
    Nexus 6
    Thanks for confirming guys!  

    I thought maybe they were just providing low quality video for streamng, but even the downloaded versions look like crap.  I had high hopes for VR concerts and sporting events, but I didn't realize that the video capture tech was still so primitive...

    The porn stuff is alright, but the ones I've seen are all a bit distorted, and it's hard to get the scale and positioning correct (using whrilgig).
  • RoasterRoaster Posts: 1,052
    3Jane
    I think the Welcome to Virtual Reality short is pretty decent clarity wise, but I don't like 360 vids in general.  What exactly is the point of putting things behind you that you can't see?  It's used as a gimmick. 
     
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  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,752 Valuable Player
    Oh. Bit of a misleading title, if you meant 360 (and 180) degree videos, not just... anything played in the Oculus Video app.

    I've used Oculus Video to watch two different 3D BluRays so far and the quality of both was excellent.
    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • RoasterRoaster Posts: 1,052
    3Jane
    CrashFu said:
    Oh. Bit of a misleading title, if you meant 360 (and 180) degree videos, not just... anything played in the Oculus Video app.

    I've used Oculus Video to watch two different 3D BluRays so far and the quality of both was excellent.
    hOW DID YOU INPUT THE bLUrAY MEDIA?
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  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,752 Valuable Player
    edited June 2016
    Roaster said:

    hOW DID YOU INPUT THE bLUrAY MEDIA?
    A program called DVDFab 9, that let me rip my BluRay discs to MP4 files, after which I just put that file in my windows videos directory and they'll show up in Oculus Video.  If you're doing 3D movies, just encode them as "full screen side-by-side" or something along those lines, and create a folder labelled 3D within that videos directory to put the movies in, and they'll just automatically work when played in OV.

    DVDFab costs a fair amount, especially if you want to go for the lifetime key instead of a limited 1 or 2 year use option, but you can do a 1-month free trial to check it out. (everything's fully functional in the trial version, too. Just adds a tiny little watermark to the corner of the video)

    Maybe some day there will be a way to just buy / rent 3D movies straight from Oculus Video or some other Rift app, but in the meantime ripping them from a physical copy of the movie is the best way I know to see this stuff.
    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • RoasterRoaster Posts: 1,052
    3Jane
    Or maybe the disk would just play in the pc optical drive.
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  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,752 Valuable Player
    Roaster said:
    Or maybe the disk would just play in the pc optical drive.
    That would be great, too.  I suspect PSVR will offer that feature, but for PC-based VR headsets someone would have to pay for the "right" to access the current encryption keys, or something like that. :disappointed:

    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • StreetPreacherStreetPreacher Posts: 224
    Nexus 6
    edited June 2016
    It does seem strange that there's no way to playback 3D Bluray disks natively, and we're forced to rip them to Side By Side format....  

    Is there any PowerDVD or something update that will support VR headsets?

    And off topic, I'm not sure why I can't get any of my regular games to play in 3D using Nvidia 3D Vision.  And games like Trine 3 have a Side By Side 3D option, but I can't get it working on the Rift using Bigscreen or any of the desktop access apps...

    EDIT:  You're right guys, I'm an Idiot.  Obviously the bluray playback isn't available because Oculus is going to want to sell their own copies of 3D movies on the store....  Silly me.
  • King-CramholeKing-Cramhole Posts: 25
    Brain Burst
    So even Virtual Desktop won't get you around this? I only watched a few of my 3D mkv files and it worked fairly decent. I guess I just assumed 3D blurays would work the same if played through whichever PC software you use to play them. 

    I was also curious about playing 3D Vision games and if you'd get them working on Virtual Desktop in 3D. I have yet to try.
  • krectuskrectus Posts: 27
    Brain Burst
    I would assume they work in virtual desktop too but I don't have a blu-ray player on my PC to test this.
  • RoasterRoaster Posts: 1,052
    3Jane
    I have found protection on BluRay disks that prevents playback on a pc since you could theoretically copy it to your hdd.  You filthy pirates.  All of you.
    I simply don't buy any disks now because of that, so suck it Sony.
    It would be nice if Oculus had a video service, but the streaming I've seen so far is not usable.  Download speeds are a joke.
    We have to be able to play 3D disks directly to the Rift if this is going to take off.
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  • EarlGreyEarlGrey Posts: 886
    Art3mis
    The only real-world video that I've found in sufficient quality was the "Introduction to Virtual Reality" demo. It's a huge demo, and only plays a couple of minutes. But you don't do any streaming, so you get highest quality.

  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,752 Valuable Player
    Roaster said:
    I have found protection on BluRay disks that prevents playback on a pc since you could theoretically copy it to your hdd.  You filthy pirates.  All of you.
    I simply don't buy any disks now because of that, so suck it Sony.
    It would be nice if Oculus had a video service, but the streaming I've seen so far is not usable.  Download speeds are a joke.
    We have to be able to play 3D disks directly to the Rift if this is going to take off.
    I assume you're just making a joke and not actually lecturing anybody, but just in case..

    I think I speak for everyone when I say that the use-restriction / copy-protection they put on BluRay discs is blatant extortion, and encourages piracy far more than it prevents it...

    Spending a bunch of money on a PC BluRay drive AND buying a copy of a $20-30 movie and then being told you have to buy a new edition of a specific $50 media playing software every year if you want to actually watch it?  That'd be like buying a retail copy of a fully-offline, single-player video game and then having to pay a subscription fee if you want to play it.
    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,023 Valuable Player
    EarlGrey said:
    The only real-world video that I've found in sufficient quality was the "Introduction to Virtual Reality" demo. It's a huge demo, and only plays a couple of minutes. But you don't do any streaming, so you get highest quality.

    How come the Virtual Reality video is good, but the rest of the 360 videos I've seen are pants? Why can't they make more videos like this and make them longer? What technique did they use to get them this good? Was it because they used a 360 4k video camera or something?
  • BloodletBloodlet Posts: 733
    3Jane
    I've already given up trying to watch 360 videos. Sure the quality sucks but that's not the biggest problem.

    The issue for me is that there is no positional tracking because it's filmed from one fixed point.
    This isn't too bad watching 180 degrees of it but you try looking behind you and keeping you head in the same position. Start moving around too much and it's barf city.
    Ok so you can turn around on you feet while keeping pretty still but try looking over your shoulder and that old sim sickness feeling quickly kicks in.
  • I have great 180 degrees sbs videos, but freakin oculus video makes the video curved in the wrong direction, resulting in ugliness and lower quality.
    I just want LiveViewRift to work again.
  • manumanu Posts: 78
    Hiro Protagonist
    I think the big movie industry folks will stay away from VR at the current resolutions, the current screens lose image quality rapidly as objects move away which leaves virtually no room for a "stage as an actor".

    Better compression tech might solve the low streaming quality problem, but the resolution limit is a hard one to crack.

    This is one for the next generation, maybe even after, if you want positional tracking as well. I heard that Hollywood is already working with 4K headsets.



  • vlodatovlodato Posts: 132
    Art3mis
    iv watched a few 360 videos not on my rift and i dont really think they look any better then on my monitor. i think its more about the cameras then the rifts resolution because like others have said 3d movies look wonderful. on another note some of the 360 videos in vrideo were pretty good. specifically there was a rio 216 video that actually blew me away which normally does not happen with 360 videos. These videos work better standing as that gives you the ability to move freely.
  • quantum7quantum7 Posts: 27
    Brain Burst
    Do any of the VR 360 Video sites offer high quality visuals?  I've tried all of them, and they all look horrible.  The Jaunt McCartney stuff is nearly unwatchable, and the other stuff I've seen is very cool, but just horrible quality.

    For instance the Seinfeld Q&A thing from the Saturday Night Live 40th Anniversary just looks horrible.  It's amazing in theory, being able to check out all of the celebrities sitting in the crowd, but the experience is just ruined by the terrible video quality...

    Are there ANY of these 360 VR videos that actually look good? 
    I agree!  Those videos are absolutely embarrassingly horrible!  You cannot even identify any of the celebrities with that pathetic quality.  Why in the world would anyone release such ungodly horrible quality?  If I showed this to any of my friend or family, they would have absolutely no interest in the Oculus based on that.  I'm flabbergasted!   :(
  • gcadetgcadet Posts: 2
    edited September 2016
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