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We were kings of the hill...

elbofforelboffor Posts: 2,572 Valuable Player
Oculus have sold a shit ton o units and the forum is alive with new blood and shit loads o posts. 

Long gone are the days where i coukd read every post and look forward to the debating, arguing, 10 page threadnaughts and memes of days passed.

It makes me a saaaad panda

Does any of the other regulars feel the same or is it just me?

Its even got to the point where this isnt my most visited site anymore



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  • elbofforelboffor Posts: 2,572 Valuable Player
    Fuck you zenbane with your constantly positive posts :pensive:
    Im trying to be all wow is me n shit here.
    Now tow the dam line and agree its all bollox and lets have a row?

    Pleeeese?
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  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    well, i get tired seeing the constant flood of "when will it ship" posts... as if people can't read the other 50 bazillion topics regarding it =/
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 4,592 Volunteer Moderator
    Yeah, the forum is kind of awash in shipping posts, and angst over delays and complaints about lack of communication... takes me back to the original release period!
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  • OpticKingOpticKing Posts: 1,185
    Wintermute
    Intel partners with oculus - gives oculus users free echo arena for 3 months - vivers get outta footing the bill for it.

    Though I guess anything helps after paying 2x as much+ for the vive to get a rift like experience.

    Side note: Atmos, out of curiosity, how comfy is it to throw the disk with the new knuckles? Also are the hand thruster buttons easy or awkward to push with the general position your hand gravitates towards after a throw/catch? Also do the knuckles, once tightened, really pinch the side of the palm after 30 mins - an hour of use, I've seen this in some reviews.
  • SharpfishSharpfish Posts: 1,300
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    edited July 2017
    pftt.. I was here back in 2013 when this forum was really full of debate, and lots of strange characters and goings on. Back then everyone was (mostly) pro oculus (this was pre-facebook; in fact I recall making a 'hitler' downfall video when oculus sold to facebook and posting it on here).

    Also back then it was mostly devs and VERy early adopters (Dk1 and DK2 users) and we'd mostly debate concepts and solutions for VR, argue about what would or wouldn't work... don't think many of us had even thought about stuff like teleportation being a major factor in modern VR etc (for better or worse). 

    Anyhow, those days came and went, most of those guys went... I was far from one of the earliest though, they were really hardcore guys who came across from the MTBS3D forums (where Palmer used to hang out as a kid with a dream) > http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=14777 <

    So, in short, forums and user bases adapt, evolve, even devolve and rather than lament the changes I guess for all of VR we should be thankful that one of its major players (and arguably one its most important) are currently enjoying a popularity resurgence thus boosting good word of mouth for VR regardless of system.

    Come gen 2 when oculus mess up the launch, run out of stock, miss the ballpark, pack in an atari joystick, or ditch PC VR altogether to go full standalone completely, I'm sure you can all get back to whatever it is you now miss.
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  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,756 Valuable Player
    I mean the forum itself is already frequented by such a smaaaaall portion of Rift owners to begin with, I've always kinda felt like we're all fairly irrelevant anyways. :kiss:

    Unless Oculus staff and game devs actually pay attention to what we say here, in which case fuck yeah we ARE the kings of VR. :sunglasses:

    (Either way we're clearly a step above all those plebians who still haven't given VR a chance.  Obviously.)
    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • SharpfishSharpfish Posts: 1,300
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    edited July 2017
    Atmos73 said:
    Well I'm back off holiday so we can can another Rift v Vive dingdong/debate if you like?

    I hear Vivers get Echo Arena for free! Thanks.
    Along with a metric ton of SDE and sinus pressure and/or another $100+ taken from your bank account!

    Now.. about those 'debates' ;) "I don't know what side I'll be on come gen 2 but I know we'll be using virtual sticks and stones come gen 3."
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  • Atmos73Atmos73 Posts: 3,128 Valuable Player
    Sadly I don't have the Knuckles (yet) so can't answer. The Wands are difficult because like a few other Touch games the trackpad is split to cover Touch buttons.

    CrossVR (Revive) has just got the Knuckles and the guy from Climbey is giving some good feedback on Lone Echo implementation. I'm expecting general release in September so mapping of Touch game should be quite advanced by then. I'll download EA tomorrow but wait for the 4hour single player to go on sales. You've got to love those Oculus fire sales lol.

    And no I'm not buying a Rift no matter how erm, cheap Oculus make it. I'm waiting for Gen2 with 4K displays.

    I do see this FB sale as the Empire rolling out the Death Star.
    DK2 owner - Vive owner - Pimax 8k backer - Waiting for Knuckles on Valve time.
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,445 Valuable Player
    I'll have to get my thinking cap on and come up with a topic that will ignite an argument. How about something on the lines of a Vive is better then Oculus thread? We all know it isn't and it's double the price. There you go any Vive tackers? :smiley:
  • Atmos73Atmos73 Posts: 3,128 Valuable Player
    I guess the next big debates will come when OC4 ends. What will Oculus have knew to offer for PCVR.
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  • CrashFuCrashFu Posts: 1,756 Valuable Player
    Atmos73 said:
    I guess the next big debates will come when OC4 ends. What will Oculus have knew to offer for PCVR.
    Honestly I expect them to just reveal a few new upcoming AAA titles, more teasers for stuff we already know is coming, and probably talk about those $200 stand-alone headsets they're working on.

    Although, ideally, they'll unveil the social features us in the PC crowd have been patiently waiting for for so long. :tongue:

    It's hard being the voice of reason when you're surrounded by unreasonable people.
  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    Yeah, I don't really expect any word on a Gen 2 or anything at this point. Hardware hasn't really advanced all that much since CV1 was released. At best, Gen2  will maybe have slightly better tracking, different sensor setup? perhaps an upgraded conroller and maybe, if we are lucky an upgraded display. but the question for that is.. at what price range.

    Gen 2, in theory should be.. perhaps..slightly more mainstream, thus slightly more affordable.(like the current sale)
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 4,592 Volunteer Moderator
    It's definitely a bit harder to follow these days as it things have been busy (Of course I also just had my daughter born so there is that also), I'm glad to see the growth though. I imagine when CV2 is announce we will all be back like hawks with plenty to discuss.
    Hey, congrats!! :)

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  • kojackkojack Posts: 5,367 Volunteer Moderator
    nalex66 said:
    Yeah, the forum is kind of awash in shipping posts, and angst over delays and complaints about lack of communication... takes me back to the original release period!
    Yep, every time something releases (DK1, DK2, CV1, Touch) we get flooded in posts about:
    - when will it ship?
    - why hasn't it shipped?
    - why won't you ship to (country)?
    - why did you cancel my order?
    - will it run on (low end pc or laptop)?

    All in separate threads of course. :)

    Which is understandable (except for the separate thread bit).

    One positive thing, so far I haven't had to explain GST for australians to anybody this time. Maybe I'm just lucky and I've missed all the "but it costs below the $1000au threshhold, why am I paying GST?" in the current sale frenzy.

    But wow, the effect of the price drop is visible as hell, so many new people jumping on! Just imagine how long the shipping queues would have been if the CV1 started at this price!

  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,305 Valuable Player
    kojack said:
    All in separate threads of course. :)

    :D <3
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  • elbofforelboffor Posts: 2,572 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    I've got 3 daughter's If anyone wants a spare ?
    Same :/
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  • cleanupdisccleanupdisc Posts: 212
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    edited July 2017
    Do you guys think the wireless VR for 200 bucks next year is gen 2? Like if its a higher resolution headset that can connect wirelessly to our pcs and it offers a better fov? 

    Or is Oculus working on a super power real gen 2, that may not arrive until 2019ish?

    BTW: Im loving my rift over the past 10 days but i really really dislike that eve valkyre game haha. I just need to readjust my headset as it is a bit too tight on me.
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,573 Valuable Player
    From the start this has been a interesting forum. I congratulate -Cyberreality and his team for keeping it going through the best and the worst of times, and for the efforts that this has taken for what has been a thankless part of their work.

    Of the forums (public and private) I support, this forum however has gone through some serious changes. We have seen three influxes of new posters achieved (most recent with the latest price cut). But at the same time we have seen instances where posters have been bullied and conversations stifled to the point that some regulars have walked away in frustration, and posts hijacked.

    It has to be admitted that free and frank conversation, away from the hyperbole of enthusiastic support for a product, has been the victim. In no way is this as bad as the troll-bots and sh*t posting we see on Reddit, but it has manifested itself here in some ugly behaviour.

    I am glad that the moderators were able to manage the situation, especially when attempts were made to start to gag discussion, or calls were made to try and restrict those who had access to post. This and all those political hate posts from the Palmer-Gate period - dark times.

    For me as a occasional visitor here, I get to see the new posters, and that makes me happy - and I would like to thank the many PM's I still receive, (sorry I can not reply to all). For the forum its just a shame that because of the style of posting and baiting many new and old accounts feel intimidated to post in fear of bullying. That should never be the case, the "personality attack" is not the way.  

    I just wonder with the OC4 announcements rumoured on the restructuring and re-branding of OVR, whether FB will want to continue with this approach to the forum, possibly a new format, or just nip it in the bud?
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,573 Valuable Player
    CrashFu said:
    I mean the forum itself is already frequented by such a smaaaaall portion of Rift owners to begin with, I've always kinda felt like we're all fairly irrelevant anyways.
    ...
    Unless Oculus staff and game devs actually pay attention to what we say here, in which case fuck yeah we ARE the kings of VR.
    ...
    Well observed -CrashFu, yes this is small, and I think the private OVR Dev forum and the new private FBVR forum are now the places where I read the kind of discussions that this forum use to provide and germinate. This forum for me is a kind of barometer on the enthusiast temperature of support, more than anything else.

    Most of the older posts have moved on, or just gave up - still a lot of resentment into the way things shaped up following the DK1 days. The toxicity of some of the early supporters of VR forcing them to leave the industry completely. 
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,669 Valuable Player
    edited July 2017
    So much melodrama Kevin, you should write a book.  :D 


    Edit: and OT. At least we can mostly say (Atmos included) we're all VR fans here and that's what counts, right! This will never change regardless of what form Facebook (or the forum users) chooses this forum to manifest itself.


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  • SyrellarisSyrellaris Posts: 1,035
    3Jane
    Do you guys think the wireless VR for 200 bucks next year is gen 2? Like if its a higher resolution headset that can connect wirelessly to our pcs and it offers a better fov? 

    Or is Oculus working on a super power real gen 2, that may not arrive until 2019ish?

    BTW: Im loving my rift over the past 10 days but i really really dislike that eve valkyre game haha. I just need to readjust my headset as it is a bit too tight on me.
    Doubt it. Wireless is where it will end up at of course for movement sake etc. But let's face it, true wireless 4k VR or higher isn't going to happen until hardware on various levels improves.

    Look at bluetooth, it works great but it took several years for it to reach somewhat decent sound quality and only in the last year or two, has reached acceptable quality for audiophiles lol.
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,573 Valuable Player
    So much melodrama Kevin, you should write a book.
    ...
    :D Funny you should say that -Shadowmask72, the guy writing the book on the rise of this latest phase of VR, asked if I would supply a chapter or two!

    What you call "melodrama", sounds a little like you are not happy with the way the situation was worded - a little too controversial for you? Or are you one of those that likes to just shrug, and say its "a storm in a teacup"?  B)
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  • Kalec84Kalec84 Posts: 568
    Trinity
    I would like to see some sale numbers...  o:)
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,669 Valuable Player
    Not at all. I'm just a firm believer in not all days are equal. I find it saddening that some people just gave up and didn't come back even after all this time because they did not like the content being posted or what was previously said in exchanges. I know I pissed a few people off with some of my posts (yeh guys there are only two porn threads now and the review threads no longer spam the forum).  I think with the Internet though it's very easy to move forwards and bury the hatchet, forget even, if you can learn some restraint and just let it go sometimes. 

    I mean, look at you (He-Man) and Skeletor as a good example of that. You both coexist without issue and live to fight on another day regardless of what happened in previous episodes.  ;)





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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,573 Valuable Player
    Not at all. I'm just a firm believer in not all days are equal. I find it saddening that some people just gave up and didn't come back even after all this time because they did not like the content being posted or what was previously said in exchanges. I know I pissed a few people off with some of my posts (yeh guys there are only two porn threads now and the review threads no longer spam the forum).  I think with the Internet though it's very easy to move forwards and bury the hatchet, forget even, if you can learn some restraint and just let it go sometimes. 

    I mean, look at you (He-Man) and Skeletor as a good example of that. You both coexist without issue and live to fight on another day regardless of what happened in previous episodes.
    Let me first say - it takes a big man to admit previous mistakes, and I congratulate you for being that open about it and willing to move on. 

    You have to understand that some of the early posters got burnt, and did not return. The bullying and post blasting can get to some no matter the thickness of their skin. And the danger is that the "my country, right or wrong" approach to discussing developments can gloss over serious issues and even seem fanatical to others.

    Coming back to a forum where there is still a taint of that behaviour can be repugnant to some of the older posters that have better things to do with their time - and can be daunting for new posters. The fact of this forum I liked was the sharing of alternative views, but when alternative views, even contradictory, are attacked in such a boorish manner - then the forum becomes a poorer place - that a image focused owner like FB may not want to support.

    I am no He-Man B) , and I think you are glossing over what had to happen to ensure that we now have a calm coexistence - but that is bye the bye.

    Finally, forgive my pedantry, but the quote is "All the days are not Equal", from the poem by Edward Kofi Louis - and its meaning "...we were meant to follow the rules of life." is a telling one for some posters.  ;) 
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