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upgrade your usb 3 drivers!.

bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 2,897 Valuable Player
edited February 8 in General
(if you have a fresco logic / inatek usb3 card) For months now my pc has been suffering long boot times, and on top of that (not VR related) if my X55, my X56 flight sticks or my fanatec gt2 race wheel were plugged in, maybe 25% of the time my pc simply would not boot at all until i unplugged these usb devices.

then the last rift update broke things even more and i had to reboot 2 or 3 times to get into VR.  i was pissed at oculus for breaking this, then cybereality posted saying to go to the MS usb 3 drivers released in december last year (before then i had used the old MS ones but actually had more joy with the Fresco Logic drivers (or so i thought, i did not twig it could be those causing my boot issues)

now on going to the MS drivers (I admit it is early days) I have not had a single failed boot, boot times are super fast, - like they should be i have a 512gb M2 drive - and of course my VR is flawless again.

my angst was missplaced at oculus... however that said, the new rift software should be far more clear ie BIG LETTERS on loading in, that the fresco logic drivers are not supported and to use the MS december 2017 ones.
Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)

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  • BoneboysBoneboys Posts: 62
    Hiro Protagonist
    Did you not get error messages with the Fresco drivers ?
    I did, we all did as far as I'm aware !
    FYI...

    https://forums.oculusvr.com/community/discussion/comment/571066#Comment_571066
    Get a Grasp, get a Grip, get Rifting.
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 2,897 Valuable Player
    edited February 8
    my issue was it was intermittant. sometimes it would say upgrade your driver, sometimes it wouldnt and would give me green lights.
    also on checking there WAS no update for the fresco logic driver.
    given back at the start of touch support there were all sorts of problems for some of us (i didnt have working touch until AFTER the price cut - which was a bugbear of mine at the time but i digress).

    so, after the last update I (wrongly as it happens) put these issues down the oculus breaking something in their update.   YES (sometimes) under devices it said update your driver - but there was no warning what so ever on the top page, it was only there IF i went into devices.... and imo ideally the upgrade your driver should be a hot link that on pressing actually should do it for us imo, just like my gpu drivers if i click update rather than having to try to find the right driver ourselves.

    given CV1 is no longer a devkit i just feel oculus need to hand hold a bit more and spell things out in black or which in a manner which is not missable.

    (but as i said this is not a moan post at all, i am v happy :) )
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 4,645 Volunteer Moderator
    I use a global Driver Updater for all my hardware .. iobit's It's a bit naggy so just install it once, get your drivers up to date and uninstall it again. https://www.iobit.com/en/driver-booster.php

    I haven't had any issues with any hardware for a long time now by keeping it all updated. When I used it for the first time, I had drivers from 2014/13 on the system for a lot of bits!

    Core i7-7700k @ 4.9 Ghz | 32 GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance @ 3000Mhz | 2x 1TB Samsung Evo | 2x 4GB WD Black
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    Be kind to one another :)
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 3,943 Poster of the Week
    edited February 8
    @LZoltowski - I don't trust programs that tell you they can update all your drivers for you. Programs like this spell trouble for me. I don't know how good they are today when it actually comes to given you the correct driver, but they used to cause all sorts of problems. I always stick to the manufacture websites for my drivers. Apart from my graphics Card driver which I do get from the Nvidia site..
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 3,943 Poster of the Week
    edited February 8
    @bigmike20vt - So are you saying these MS drivers work with the Fresco Logik usb card or does it make that card redundant? I take it you Microsoft drivers when you mention MS, is that what MS stands for?
  • KlodsBrikKlodsBrik Posts: 534
    Neo
    Yes it is, and the windows standard usb drivers will work with the fresco afaik. From what Ivé read from others posts here they seem to work better with the rift.
     However so many glitches these days that it´s hard to figure out where all the troubles people have are actually coming from imo.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 1,186
    Wintermute
    RedRizla said:
    @bigmike20vt - So are you saying these MS drivers work with the Fresco Logik usb card or does it make that card redundant? I take it you Microsoft drivers when you mention MS, is that what MS stands for?

    The MS drivers for my Fresco Logic card are working great for me.
    Don

    EVGA X-79 Dark MB|I7 4820K@4.50 GHz|EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Elite|16GB Corsair Platinum 2133MHz| TM Warthog + 7.5cm Ext| MFG Crosswind Pedals| Rift CV1|Windows 10 64 bit 
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 2,897 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    @bigmike20vt - So are you saying these MS drivers work with the Fresco Logik usb card or does it make that card redundant? I take it you Microsoft drivers when you mention MS, is that what MS stands for?
    yeah it is the microsoft version of the fresco logic drivers which is working for me..... it does not make the card redundant.
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • john.zigmontjohn.zigmont Posts: 22
    Brain Burst
    The Microsoft version of fresco logic drivers are working fine here.
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 3,943 Poster of the Week
    Can someone give me a link to the MS drivers please? cheers!
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 2,897 Valuable Player
    edited February 12
    you dont need a link, just uninstall the drivers and then on rebooting windows should automatically pick the correct ones... (i think - it worked for me anyway)
    in device manager, go to usb devices, right mouse button on the fresco ones and uninstall.
    once done, then reboot and cross fingers.
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 3,903 Power Poster
    edited February 12
    One change in Windows 10 that has got right on my tits (think it was the Fall update but I could be wrong) is the removal of the link to Device Manager from the Devices settings. They changed it from Device Manager to Devices and printers. :(
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

    Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever
  • dburnedburne Posts: 1,186
    Wintermute
    snowdog said:
    One change in Windows 10 that has got right on my tits (think it was the Fall update but I could be wrong) is the removal of the link to Device Manager from the Devices settings. They changed it from Device Manager to Devices and printers. :(

    Say what?
    I have Device Manager listed right in control panel, just beside Devices and Printers... I have the Fall Creators update as well.
    Don

    EVGA X-79 Dark MB|I7 4820K@4.50 GHz|EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Elite|16GB Corsair Platinum 2133MHz| TM Warthog + 7.5cm Ext| MFG Crosswind Pedals| Rift CV1|Windows 10 64 bit 
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 2,897 Valuable Player
    cant you just RMB on my computer and go to device manager from there?  on linux box right now so cant check
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 3,903 Power Poster
    dburne said:
    snowdog said:
    One change in Windows 10 that has got right on my tits (think it was the Fall update but I could be wrong) is the removal of the link to Device Manager from the Devices settings. They changed it from Device Manager to Devices and printers. :(

    Say what?
    I have Device Manager listed right in control panel, just beside Devices and Printers... I have the Fall Creators update as well.

    It's still there in Control Panel, but there used to be direct link to it in Windows Settings>Devices. They've now replaced that with Devices And Printers. So now I have to go to Devices And Printers, then clicking on Control Panel in the address bar and then getting to it from there.
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

    Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever
  • Mot666Mot666 Posts: 87
    Hiro Protagonist
    I've had no problems with my inatek, the problems I've been having have been from that fall creators update. internet dongle not working, with unsatisfactory, unreliable workaround and slow speeds. oh and no promised fix yet either (it was due months ago). shutdown doesn't power off most of the time and needs the switch on the psu to be flipped. restart hangs most of the time till blue screen. although I do have problems with usb connectivity on the front panel ports sometimes, but that was only since the fall creators update.
  • Mnem0nicMnem0nic Posts: 57
    Hiro Protagonist
    snowdog said:
    dburne said:
    snowdog said:
    One change in Windows 10 that has got right on my tits (think it was the Fall update but I could be wrong) is the removal of the link to Device Manager from the Devices settings. They changed it from Device Manager to Devices and printers. :(

    Say what?
    I have Device Manager listed right in control panel, just beside Devices and Printers... I have the Fall Creators update as well.

    It's still there in Control Panel, but there used to be direct link to it in Windows Settings>Devices. They've now replaced that with Devices And Printers. So now I have to go to Devices And Printers, then clicking on Control Panel in the address bar and then getting to it from there.
    If you're using Win 10 you could just right click on the "Start Menu Button" and select "Device Manager" from there ;) 
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 3,903 Power Poster
    Mnem0nic said:
    snowdog said:
    dburne said:
    snowdog said:
    One change in Windows 10 that has got right on my tits (think it was the Fall update but I could be wrong) is the removal of the link to Device Manager from the Devices settings. They changed it from Device Manager to Devices and printers. :(

    Say what?
    I have Device Manager listed right in control panel, just beside Devices and Printers... I have the Fall Creators update as well.

    It's still there in Control Panel, but there used to be direct link to it in Windows Settings>Devices. They've now replaced that with Devices And Printers. So now I have to go to Devices And Printers, then clicking on Control Panel in the address bar and then getting to it from there.
    If you're using Win 10 you could just right click on the "Start Menu Button" and select "Device Manager" from there ;) 

    Yup. There's also a Windows button + some key or other that brings up the same menu. Except Windows installation is buggered and neither of these things work.

    I keep on meaning to go Scorched Earth on my SSD but I haven't got around to it yet. I tried a fresh installation keeping all files and folders a while ago but it didn't fix the problem.

    I used to do a format and reinstall every year with Windows but Windows 10 is a lot more stable than previous versions of Windows so I haven't felt the need to for a few years.

    It's on my list of things to do lol
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

    Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever
  • InachuInachu Posts: 37
    Brain Burst
    Or in the Cortana search field on task bar just type in: CONTROL PANEL and click on it and you will see the old style control panel and not the new jazzed up pastel crappy control panel.
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 3,943 Poster of the Week
    edited February 13
    @snowdog - If you are having problems with the start menu in the fall update then follow these steps, it worked for me when I wasn't able to access the stat menu. Make sure you follow the step exactly as I have described and hopefully your start menu will work again. Just try it and it it does work revert back to same setting. 

    Follow these steps :

    1- Right click on start menu and click on Run. "For those who the start menu does not respond with right click, right click on taskbar - click on Task Manager - from File menu on the left upper corner select Run new task".

    2-Write the command regedit and click Enter.

    3- Go to path [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WpnUserService].

    4-Double click on "Start on the right side."

    5-Change the value data to 4 then OK. it's currently 2

    6-Reboot.
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