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SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
Neo
I am wondering if there are any other musicians on these forums - if so what do you play? Do you write / record music? What got you into playing music? What is your gear?

I play bass guitar, guitar,synth and function as the audio engineer for my band.

It was Nirvana and Much Music (Canadian MTV) that got me into music - though I moved on from that influence early on after starting to learn how to play. I started on bass guitar at 13 and playing guitar at around 22 (I am 31 now) - when we play live I function as the bass player and in the studio I remain multi-instrumental focusing on support parts.

My main gear is:

'97 Fender Precision Lyte Deluxe
Ampeg Micro-VR with DI
Ampeg V6B
Presonus Studiolive 16.4.2 running through Logic X


Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,243 Power Poster
    edited March 9

    I'm a retired Metal Head. I was in and out of bands from high-school up til my early 30's.

    Here's my retired gear:
    1. Jackson Kelly XL
    2. Washburn Dime



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  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,429 Volunteer Moderator
    Zenbane said:

    I'm a retired Metal Head. I was in and out of bands from high-school up til my early 30's.

    Here's my retired gear:
    1. Jackson Kelly XL
    2. Washburn Dime
    Maaan they are sexy
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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    nice axes - not fully retired I hope!

    I’ve been in the same band for almost 20 years - it helps that we produce / record our own stuff as it is much to expensive to have someone do it for you and relying solely on being a live act is getting tougher as most live venues operate on a pay to play basis where I am from. But it is pretty easy to keep up as a studio band these days lol
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • danknugzdanknugz Posts: 1,987
    3Jane
    i am a classically trained pianist
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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    edited March 9
    danknugz said:
    i am a classically trained pianist
      Awesome - do you write music, do you play professionally? What type of piano do you own / play predominantly?

    What genre of music do you mostly tend to play?

    Zenbane said:
    Just got home - did not realize these were not strung up when I was looking on my phone. Do you have another guitar that you play more often?
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • danknugzdanknugz Posts: 1,987
    3Jane
    not really anymore, it was one of those things my parents kind of forced me to do. i still have a music hobby but i rarely mention it because its kind of embarrassing and looked down on by real musicians, and even i dont have a lot of respect for it (techno) although i dont make dance music it is still kind of something im not really proud of
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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo

    danknugz said:
    not really anymore, it was one of those things my parents kind of forced me to do. i still have a music hobby but i rarely mention it because its kind of embarrassing and looked down on by real musicians, and even i dont have a lot of respect for it (techno) although i dont make dance music it is still kind of something im not really proud of
    Not embarrassing if it sounds good - lots of good electronic music out there, created by "real" musicians.

    I like amalgamating all sounds - I love self-sampling, synthesizers, messing with effects pedals on vocals and instruments,  etc. - becoming an audio engineer opened me up to the possibilities of using the studio in a way that stretches my understanding of music. When I am writing/recording my own stuff I use sampled drums / write midi-drum patterns to layer over top.

    When I record with my band it is live off the floor with no metronome to capture a more dynamic tempo and then I build those songs up using a variety of guitars, electronics, etc.

    My next goal is to combine parts of the two to see how far I can stretch a song out - it is my goal to write and record a side long song.

    If you have classical piano training (solid foundation of melodic and rhythmic theory) - you could easily (and probably already do) use that in your electronic music - and I have found that my knowledge of an instrument has led me to be able to play other instruments fairly well in a studio setting. I mean I wouldn't get on stage and play keyboards or anything but I get the sounds I need out of them.
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • danknugzdanknugz Posts: 1,987
    3Jane
    edited March 9
    yeah im somewhat similar in that my knowledge of piano kind of led me into it, but i also studied percussion quite intensely in high school, thats probably more where i got the techno itch from, i am really drawn to the control factor with timing syncopation and automation,  you can (potentially) create different rhythms and sounds that typically you would not be able to with normal instruments. just a shame that its so trendy right now.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,243 Power Poster
    edited March 9

    I used to own this:




    I tried to make Techno/Metal comparable to Static-X and the Fear Factory remix, Remanufactured:




    To this day this Remanufactured Album is considered a "pioneer album."

    My attempts to do anything similar with Techno/Metal were horrifyingly bad though lol

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  • danknugzdanknugz Posts: 1,987
    3Jane
    yeah i havent made anythinng i would not be embarrased to post here thats for sure
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 5,327 Power Poster
    I started off with the bass guitar and acoustic guitar when I was 15 but didn't play in a band until 1994 I think. We did our first gig on FA Cup Final day 1995, and I missed the match because of it which pissed me off. We played in front of 128 people if I'm remembering correctly and after that did a few more gigs averaging 80+.

    It was a punk band called The Exiles From Pluto, you can find our songs here:

    http://www.mf-enterprizes.com/My Recordings mp3.html

    I ended up quitting the band because they weren't interested enough in doing gigs, which to me personally is the whole point of playing in a band, and because I wrote a song that they didn't want to do 'because it sounds too much like Iron Maiden'...only for one of the guitarists writing basically the same riff the next week and everyone thought we should do it lol. A told them they could all go and do one and fucked off down the pub.

    I used to wear a French Maids outfit on stage too lol. They tried to convince me to do it and I kept on telling them to fuck off. Then one of the guitarists (the same dick head above) said he was quitting the band and moving to Leicester a couple of weeks before our first gig. I foolishly said that if he stayed and did the gig I'd wear the outfit. Whilst drunk. In front of witnesses. :o :D :D :D

    After that I joined another band only for the drummer to bottle it before our first gig and after that I didn't play for years. I even sold both of my bass guitars because I was desperate for the cash (an Ibanez Roadstar and a Westone Thunder bass).

    I just started playing the guitar again a couple of years ago but I don't play that much. And the guitar is a pile of old pants too, a Chord CSS78.

    Got myself a cheapo practice amp and an RP255 multi-effects processor which I really like. The pitch shifting is a bit ropy but everything else sounds great.

    I'm going to be doing the music for my game at some point, thinking of using FL Studio 12.

    I wrote a few songs which you can listen to on Soundcloud here:

    https://soundcloud.com/arv1971

    There's a couple of experiments for horror ambience there for my game too.

    I'm also a decent singer too. I've been offered jobs as a 'ringer' twice whilst doing Karaoke!
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    Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,243 Power Poster
    SimonSays28 said:
    Just got home - did not realize these were not strung up when I was looking on my phone. Do you have another guitar that you play more often?

    I destringed them to preserve their sexy essence during my retirement lol

    I do still play from time-to-time just to make sure my skills don't go full Derp. I bought an Ibanez Gio (black) that I use about once a week:




    The pictures of the Jackson and Washburn were taken in my home earlier today. The Gio isn't so grand so I grabbed a look-a-like from the web.

    I have started playing more often now that my son is old enough to know, love, and respect The Metal. I started to revisit some early Metallica and Iron Maiden for him.
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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    Good stuff @Snowdog - I really like Manhattan quite a bit, all of it has a really nice mix!

    @Zenbane - completely understand, I'd just hate seeing such nice guitars unable to pick them up - I actually have a couple myself that I just haven't gotten around to fixing up and it just kills me not being able to use them right now LOL

    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,243 Power Poster
    edited March 9
    Thanks for the compliments, Simon!

    Those are my "stage guitars," I wouldn't even take them to band practice. I was pretty religious about which guitars got used at any given time lol

    The Jackson guitar was kept in Standard E tuning for all the Slayer/Metalllica/Megadeth type songs, and the Washburn was Drop D for the Lamb of God, a few Death Metal gems, and most of the "original" music was written in Drop D.
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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    edited March 9
    I don't really have a preference for my guitars / basses - at this point I have a quite a few at least 9 of my own, and the other members in the band have about as many. I have access to pretty much any guitar I need at any time - I have my main bass for playing live, but I take whatever my mood dictates for the most part.

    The weirdest bass I have is a left handed fretless Jacos knock-off (brand name Vintage) that I have converted to right hand.
    Bought it in the states for about $120 while I was getting my Gas Detection Repair Tech cert from Industrial Scientific - just outside of Pittsburgh. Put another $90 into it getting it flipped, so just under $300 CDN - I love cheap instruments. I mean don't get me wrong - I love my Fender's and such to death, but some of the off-brand stuff just really does it for me.


    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • BrixmisBrixmis Posts: 1,974
    Project 2501
    edited March 10
    Let me embarass myself - although this was a year ago - and I usually play 6-string but health reasons forced me to switch to bass.



    This was one of my first self-written and recorded tunes, entitled "Indecision"

    Played all the bits - at that time I didn't have a bass, so I used a Spanish (nylon strung) guitar for the bass bits.

    I also sang in one of the gameplay vids I uploaded to YouTube - I deleted it since, but this is the track... Brain Damage, of course, by Pink Floyd. I have a very deep singing voice, but I have done backing vocals for some songs when gigging (Lady In Black was my first - doing the "aahh's"

    edit - found some pics of my guitars:

    My first bass:



    My spanish and electro-acoustic (Crafter FX550) as heard in the Brain Damage song recording



    This was my first electro-acoustic (and a much youger me, when I was teaching guitar at the local school of music...):



    This was a nice Ibanez - the Jet King 1 - looked a bit yukky but played very nice:



    I like a wide nut, due to my problem with arthritis - I have long-ish fingers but have a habit of catching other strings, so the wider the nut, the better for me. I do have a number of other guitars, but won't bore you with them now - or take up too much forum space.

    The best one I had was the standard American Strat. I'd been having a number of issues with some songs and playing them fluidly on the guitars I owned, but when I got that Strat, it all fell into place and sounded great (well, good enough anyway). I'd had Start copies, but the genuine article was easily better than all of them. Now I use a self-built TeleStrat, built with an ash telecaster body and pick-ups and a Strat neck. I plan to change the pick-ups soon and just bought a custom tail plate for it.



    Also have a very nice Peavey (Jack Daniels paint job - I'll look for a pic later). I bought it because I had seen so many guitarists using them, when I went to try-outs for bass, so i decided to get one to see what the fuss was about. I do like it - a lot, but I wouldn't like it to be my only guitar.

     I use an Ashdown EB220 now - p/x'd my Marshall half-stack to buy it when I switched to bass for bands.



    Okay, don't worry I'm off now...  :(




  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    Good stuff @Brixmis

    I am a strat guy myself - we have 2 Mexi's and 1 American - I prefer the two mexican ones (they are heavier, one is made from swamp ash). The American strat ended up taking about 10 years to really love, it saved our guitar player from a pitbull attack (has some minor bite wounds on it even though the guitar was in a soft case at the time, and a little crack where the neck is bolted to the body.) It has a nice surf sound to it - it weighs much less than our other guitars. It is what I taught myself guitar on.

    Also have a Telecaster, and two Epiphones (Les Paul Junior, and Les Paul Special). I am not a big fan of the Les Paul - but I love both the Junior and the Special, they are a little thinner/smaller than a normal Les Paul and they have a bit more bite to them.

    My main guitar is a Peavey Raptor with overwound pickups - which just sounds awesome. It has a very late 70s new wave sound to it - like cardboard.

    On the acoustic side we have a couple Denver 3/4 sized nylon string's that sound wonderful and a full sized Yamaha nylon string that also just plays beautifully. I have a no-name 3/4 sized acoustic that sounds and looks like something from pioneer times - and a bigger Bravo acoustic that is hard to play but sounds beautiful especially for slide.

    Also have a couple acoustic basses - an Epiphone El Capitan (stands nearly as tall as me, LOL) and a Gold Tone Micro Bass




    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • BrixmisBrixmis Posts: 1,974
    Project 2501
    Great - those full-sized Yam nylon strung guitars are really awesome.

    I got to play in a band in Berlin, run by Heinz Glass (Percy Sledge's guitarist - see vid below) and he had one and he was just incredible on it. His rendition of Sultans of Swing on it was just awesome. His singing was awful - but funny at the same time (think of English songs sung in a heavy German accent!). His rendition of Black Magic Woman - or as he sung it "Black Magic Vimmins" was hilarious.

    This one made me laugh in particular - it's one he wrote himself called "Take My Blues Away"



    This one was far better (imho):










  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    edited March 10
    Both those are great - I kinda like his voice, kind of sounds like a funny Gregg Allman. The second was awesome!

    I haven't gotten the chance to play with too many other bands or musicians outside the trio I'm in - the only real experience I have there is we played a show supporting our guitar teacher Brian Griffiths and recorded the rehearsals leading up to the show for an album.

    https://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/track/some-other-guy

    Outside that just as a stand in at open mics for a jam here or there.

    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • BrixmisBrixmis Posts: 1,974
    Project 2501
    Yup - good stuff. Would be very popular with the guy who lives two doors down from us - he used to play rhythm in a band making similar music. He's nearly 80 now, though - and I got a lot of his old gear very cheap :)

    Heinz always wants to help out younger (than him) musicians and give them a boost on their way - that's how I ended up in his band. I had been playing for 4 years when I met him - he had four guitarists, apart from himself, all playing slightly different parts (I usually did electro-acoustic arpeggio picking) in addition to himself on lead guitar. That was 15 years ago.

    Seems he still does that, from recent videos - but like all of us, he's getting on a bit now. I lost touch after I came back to the UK in 2004.







  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    edited March 11
    That's awesome - my experience on the music scene where I am from is that most people don't want to help out the younger artists. This is due in part to the live music scene being pretty stagnant up here - partly because the population in Canada is low and unlike America / UK, most successful Canadian artists have had to leave to "make it".

    Up here everybody fights for gigs - and it is almost a pay to play mentality from the clubs now. They won't do anything but the bare minimum promotion and expect the bands they book to fill the venue - and nine times out of ten the band is paid in a cut of the ticket sales that they have to sell. I mean I love playing live - but I also work a day job, and honestly selling tickets to your friends / coworkers or random people you meet is not really my thing. So we play out very rarely now and are more focused on just writing and recording music unburdened by the cost of paying someone to do it for us.

    Brian was from the UK and played in one of Liverpool's biggest bands The Big Three managed by Brian Epstien at the same time as The Beatles. So it was a bit different with him - he wanted to pass his knowledge on. I took about 2 years of lessons with him when I was 13 - and then didn't hear from him again until he reached out to play a fundraiser for a documentary some film crew was doing about him and The Big Three. I knew to record the whole thing because there is very little recordings of him - and he is a guitar player who Steve Howe, Rory Gallagher, etc. have all cited as a major influence.
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 5,327 Power Poster
    One big problem that musicians have these days is places to play. 30 years ago there were ALWAYS plenty of pubs and clubs all over the place that had live music but these days these places are very few and far between. :(
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

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  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    edited March 11
    snowdog said:
    One big problem that musicians have these days is places to play. 30 years ago there were ALWAYS plenty of pubs and clubs all over the place that had live music but these days these places are very few and far between. :(
    100% true - and the places that are available to play are usually booked by a self-sustaining local scene that doesn't really want to give up time for new acts. At least that has been my experience in the cities up here that I've lived in (Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto being the main ones) - not that there is a shortage of talent in any scene, I've seen good live local music in a variety of venues. But the acts that get the most stage time are DJs, Top 40 bands, and tribute acts - original music is relegated to open mic nights and early weeknight multi-act shows if any at all.

    I have also found that most venues that host original music won't pay flat rates for shows and instead print tickets and tell the band to sell them - most also take a cut of the tickets sold at the door. The venue does nothing more than put up a few pamphlets and maybe a poster in the club if you are lucky and tell you to bring the crowd. Then when you have dragged out your few friends either by guilt or by paying for their ticket... the club is usually disappointed with the 5-10 people you were able to wrangle out to the club - and they do everything they can to get the band to spend their money on getting drunk  to further their bottom line. Which most times results in a lousy performance from the band and no profit from ticket sales. Most clubs do not also give a cut of the liquor sales anymore as well.

    On top of that - people are going to clubs less anyways because there is stricter enforcement of drunk driving laws, smoking has been banned in doors and there is an over abundance of home entertainment.
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • BrixmisBrixmis Posts: 1,974
    Project 2501
    edited March 11
    It's the same here, too - this area used to be abuzz with gigging bands, nights out etc and now it's just a dive. I actually had bands that I have had auditions for ask me if I know where they can get a booking.

    Funny thing is, the pub not 100 yards from my house has band on every weekend (as does the local social club) yet just try even getting to talk to them about a gig - ain't gonna happen, they book the established national bands instead. Many say the government screwed local gigging in the UK with their maximum of two musicians policy (more than two and a charge is levied - don't remember the exact details) but I disagree, as dumb a rule as it was. I think it's a sea change in the mentality of British society and tbh I sincerely dislike it.

    Thankfully I'm not dependant on music for an income any more (well, I never was - but it was a welcome bonus) - but it means it's much more difficult to even just get a few people to play together for fun.




  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    At least it is comforting to know that it isn't just this way in Canada for local music. We don't have a policy on how many musicians can play - but that does sound like the most useless of rules. It is mostly the same here to in as far as our national long-standing Canadian bands get most of the decent halls, clubs, casinos, etc. - after that there is a local established scene that controls all the smaller venues, and after that there are few off the grid pubs and such that allow musicians to run open mic nights or shows out of their venue so long as the person hosting the jam or show provides all the sound equipment and does all the promotion.

    Like you I am not dependant on music for income - I wised up and learned pretty quickly that the music scene was not a ladder I could climb and so instead I chose to work and to self-fund our first album and to buy the equipment that allows me to continue to record albums.

    I totally agree about the sea change of not just British society - but pretty much everywhere. Most people do not go out to be entertained anymore - and I can admit I am part of the problem for this as I love me my home entertainment (Oculus, Netflix, video games, movies, etc.).

    Part of the problem is also that music has become an expectation - especially with streaming services like Spotify. People pay a monthly fee to have access to all / any music they want. Unfortunately this means that it is easier to get stuck into a rut when listening to music and the streaming services mostly only promote the music that the record companies push anyways. I was on Spotify / iTunes for 2 years with our last album - and did a fair amount of promotion for which I made 90 cents and spent over 200 dollars in annual fees. Our album had no chance of getting noticed - and I don't personally know a single person who goes onto Spotify looking for new independent music.

    It is kind of what made us decide to give away all of our music for free download - not because I don't value it, but because I value it enough that I want it to be heard and there is more of chance for that if there are less obstacles (re: money) in the way of it and any potential listener. To be honest - it has been a relief not having to promote our music as a sale.
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • lord_of_shredlord_of_shred Posts: 97
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited March 13
    Yeah cool. I'm a 6 string guy myself...and have been playing for 24 years now (started on my 6th birthday).
    But work has forced me to lay off quite a bit for the last few years...in my teens I was bitten by the shred bug and had a guitar strapped around me every free minute.
    If we're showing axe pics @Zenbane I always wanted to have a Kelly with the swirl paint and an ML...but I've settled for this beauty (the neon pink is way more vibrant in reality) instead.

    As well as several super strats from Yamaha and Ibanez.
    I had a progressive melo death band ("Bleak") from 2004-2013 before it "fell" apart due to everyone studying/working around the country.
    As well as a recording project for the last few years and am currently working on the second album for it. The first was in the vein of Bleak, the second is a completly differen beast, I call it "soundtrack" black metal. Recording of most instruments is done (hired studio drummer, bass from my brother everything else myself) but mixing and vocals are not my strongest suit so I'm whiddling away in the few free hours I got every other weekend to put the finishing touches on it.

    Wanted to link some music on Bandcamp but it wont post it, maybe I'm too stupid.
    https://bleak-band.bandcamp.com/album/waterflow
    https://nocturnalescape.bandcamp.com/album/nocturnal-escape
  • SimonSays28SimonSays28 Posts: 576
    Neo
    Sounds great - good mix, especially on the Nocturnal Escape track.

    Even though the first band broke up - glad to see you continued with music afterwards! I have been playing with the same group since '99 but we officially became a band around 2005 when we released our first demo. In that time I have seen so many of my friends bands come and go - and I'd say maybe 3 or 4 of the musicians out of the 30 or so bands I have known personally have stuck with creating music.
    Check out my band at http://theheavyjack3.bandcamp.com/ - our entire discography has been released for free download.

  • lord_of_shredlord_of_shred Posts: 97
    Hiro Protagonist
    Thank you, if started listening to your stuff but it's nothing I can take while trying to solve some bugs in C++, will keep it in the bookmarks for less tasking work ;-). Like the clean guitar sound though.
    I know that feeling. My band started around the same time as some other friends, they are still doing it and they kick ass as much as they can, the other bands that started after us all faded away before we called it quits.
    I taught guitar for a while, and 3 out of my 7 students still play (one still has a band, two others are doing solo stuff). I guess if you're bitten by the bug you can't leave it.
    Also my father's a lifetime musician (private music teacher with around 20 different instrument choices you can pick to learn from) so it must be in the genes ;-). My brother still plays as well (bass and tuba). 
    I miss playing live and band practice and the comradery quite a lot but I got a timewise demanding job and girl...so somethings gotta give I guess.
  • lord_of_shredlord_of_shred Posts: 97
    Hiro Protagonist
    Also playing live in Germany has become a nightmare over the last 10 years, as much as anywhere else I guess. We got a good metal (underground) scene but the places where you can play have become lesser and nowadays you're happy when you get compensated for your travel cost. I only earned money from music while doing studio jobs or playing in cover bands. Anything else was always a zero sum or even negative experience.
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