Gtx1080Ti and RTX 2080Ti best price/comparison thread

cybereality

Evileyes said:

Thanks for the update cyber!

i was wondering if you knew the procedure to changing my cooler master 1100 to single rail mode, like you advised.

seriously almost RMA’d this thing and went for a EVGA brand. 

Im going to postpone the return because of your post so thank you!

Not sure about the Cooler Master. On my Corsair AX1500i I connected a USB cable to the PSU and then used CorsairLink to disable OCP (over-current protection) on each cable which switches the mode. This seems like a risky change, so I'm not sure it's a great idea, but it got things working.

RuneSR2

cybereality said:

Evileyes said:

I don't know what's going on with this 2080 ti but my system reboots under any amount of GPU stress, I have a beast 1100W PSU... so im at a loss as to what the problem is... what a shame. Tonight im going to remove the overclock on my cpu if that could free up some power... however, 1100W should be enough for both...  What a bummer.

 I had crashes and lockups with my 2080 Ti too. There were two things I did that seemed to fix it. One, I downloaded the MSI Afterburner Beta and set a good custom fan profile (50% at 30C up to 100% at 70C) which stopped the overheating. Then following a Reddit thread, I switched my PSU into single rail mode. It seems that Corsair digital PSUs have some issue by default, but single rail mode helps. Not sure I totally understand the problem, but after I did these two things I stopped getting game crashing. However, Windows sleep in now unreliable and most of the time it does not wake up. I'm not sure if that is related to changed PSU settings, there was no problem previously with my GTX 1080 and same PSU.

How about performance in VR games, have you had time to test the 2080 Ti (SLI?) thoroughly? Would be great to read about your experiences, especially because I'm also using a 1080, thanks!

Star-lizard

http://boostclock.com/show/000230/gpu-rendering-nv-gigarays-gtx980ti-gtx1080-gtx1080ti-rtx2080.html

Evileyes

I’m not playing this game, I’m going to return this. Which 2080 ti is the best one on the market? 

I was was reading the nvidia forum and it’s a complete shit show, for this kind of money I want something solid. So does one brand stand above the rest?

RuneSR2

Evileyes said:

I’m not playing this game, I’m going to return this. Which 2080 ti is the best one on the market? 

I was was reading the nvidia forum and it’s a complete shit show, for this kind of money I want something solid. So does one brand stand above the rest?

This is probably King of the Hill:

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-A11G-GAMING/

Asus is known for the highest quality, like: 



TechPowerUp has tested many different 2080 Ti cards, Asus Strix was the only card to receive a 95% score:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Strix_OC/

LZoltowski

I would wait a little bit longer, most if not all cards are still based on the same reference design PCB layout from Nvidia, custom ones should drop soon ...

Evileyes

LZoltowski said:

I would wait a little bit longer, most if not all cards are still based on the same reference design PCB layout from Nvidia, custom ones should drop soon ...

Is there a benefit with custom layouts? better performance or?

Techy111

My MSI tri TI has now been delayed until early November, problems with them I wonder ???

LZoltowski

Evileyes said:

LZoltowski said:

I would wait a little bit longer, most if not all cards are still based on the same reference design PCB layout from Nvidia, custom ones should drop soon ...

Is there a benefit with custom layouts? better performance or?

Usually, better thermals, as they can have proper custom made cooling, better grade components and better power delivery as they use their own PCB design, for example, the Kingpin series of cards have completely custom power delivery to squeeze out every bit of performance out.

Custom PCB design boards usually lead to better overclocking and stability in my experience.

Reference design boards are all almost identical in performance (providing the cooling is half decent for a sustained boost clock)

LZoltowski

I have seen reports that the VirtualLink on the RTX cards already works

With a dongle like this:

danybonin

i upgraded my titan x pascal to a rtx 2080 ti. So far, im pleased with the performance. I play on a 27pguq at 4k HDR gsync  144hz (but using 120hz for non hdr 8bit color and 98hz for hdr 10bit color).Works great.

In VR, i only tested lone echo yesterday and it was garbage. Not sure if its because of the 1.31 update or nvidia drivers.

Was running great before.

RuneSR2

Nice review here in sims - 1080 Ti vs. 2080 Ti using Oculus Rift, and the 2080 Ti won big time - as it should:



So at least the EVGA card worked fine in his setup. 

dburne

LZoltowski said:

I have seen reports that the VirtualLink on the RTX cards already works

With a dongle like this:

Interesting, I may have to give this a go when I get my new EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3.
If it does that would be awesome.

MowTin

LZoltowski said:

I have seen reports that the VirtualLink on the RTX cards already works

With a dongle like this:

Where can I buy this?

MowTin

RuneSR2 said:

Nice review here in sims - 1080 Ti vs. 2080 Ti using Oculus Rift, and the 2080 Ti won big time - as it should:



So at least the EVGA card worked fine in his setup. 

Good post. 
I tested Project Cars 2. I saw some nice gains. Still tweaking it. 

I solved my massive problems in SteamVR by setting the processor affinity for Oculus processes to use my last 4 cores. That fixed a lot of issues. 

RedRizla

Have to say the Geforce 2080Ti looks impressive running those sims at a constant 90 fps on max settings. I still can't afford one though Nvidia you greedy gits..

Techy111

Some 2070 benchmarks coming out =

Star-lizard

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-chief-scientist-michael-abrash-future-ar-vr-technology-oculus-connect-5/amp/

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Revisiting each area of technology in turn, Abrash began by discussing optics and displays. His predictions for headset capabilities in the year 2021 were 4K × 4K resolution per-eye, a 140 degree field of view, and variable depth of focus.

Abrash highlighted the rapidly progressing area of research around varifocal displays, saying that they had made “significant progress in solving the problem” with the AI-driven renderer DeepFocus that can achieve “natural, gaze-contingent blur in real time,” and that they would be publishing their findings in the coming months.

Evileyes

Anyone know of a place that has some quality RTX 2080 Ti's in stock or should I wait for the new design?

Star-lizard

Amazon Canada has two Zotac 2080 ti left

RedRizla

Assassin's Creed odyssey only 38 fps on a Geforce 2080Ti in 4k? I thought the Geoforce 2080ti would always get you a minimum of 60 fps in all games at 4k tbh..

Edit: I've just seen the other benchmarks from @Techy111 Youtube video and other 4k games are coming in at under 60 fps in 4k?

bigmike20vt

Star-lizard said:

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-chief-scientist-michael-abrash-future-ar-vr-technology-oculus-connect-5/amp/

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Revisiting each area of technology in turn, Abrash began by discussing optics and displays. His predictions for headset capabilities in the year 2021 were 4K × 4K resolution per-eye, a 140 degree field of view, and variable depth of focus.

Abrash highlighted the rapidly progressing area of research around varifocal displays, saying that they had made “significant progress in solving the problem” with the AI-driven renderer DeepFocus that can achieve “natural, gaze-contingent blur in real time,” and that they would be publishing their findings in the coming months.

really interesting read. This is where i think oculus are leagues ahead of companies like pimax.  pimax just take existing tech and expand on it, where are oculus are looking to revolutionise everything.  (this is not a dig at pimax, feel free to disagree, it is just my observation)

that said, i hope his timeline is not him talking about CV2!  in my view that is far to long to wait for it..... remember oculus themselves said that if you consider console generations to be every 5 years and phone generations to be every 1 year, they saw VR generations to be somewhere in the middle.

So i do hope oculus bring out an interim product in the next 12-18 months.

dburne

bigmike20vt said:

Star-lizard said:

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-chief-scientist-michael-abrash-future-ar-vr-technology-oculus-connect-5/amp/

Quote

Revisiting each area of technology in turn, Abrash began by discussing optics and displays. His predictions for headset capabilities in the year 2021 were 4K × 4K resolution per-eye, a 140 degree field of view, and variable depth of focus.

Abrash highlighted the rapidly progressing area of research around varifocal displays, saying that they had made “significant progress in solving the problem” with the AI-driven renderer DeepFocus that can achieve “natural, gaze-contingent blur in real time,” and that they would be publishing their findings in the coming months.

really interesting read. This is where i think oculus are leagues ahead of companies like pimax.  pimax just take existing tech and expand on it, where are oculus are looking to revolutionise everything.  (this is not a dig at pimax, feel free to disagree, it is just my observation)

that said, i hope his timeline is not him talking about CV2!  in my view that is far to long to wait for it..... remember oculus themselves said that if you consider console generations to be every 5 years and phone generations to be every 1 year, they saw VR generations to be somewhere in the middle.

So i do hope oculus bring out an interim product in the next 12-18 months.

Based on what little I heard at OC5, I would highly doubt that happening.
But we will see I guess eventually.

Shadowmask72

RedRizla said:

Assassin's Creed odyssey only 38 fps on a Geforce 2080Ti in 4k? I thought the Geoforce 2080ti would always get you a minimum of 60 fps in all games at 4k tbh..

Edit: I've just seen the other benchmarks from @Techy111 Youtube video and other 4k games are coming in at under 60 fps in 4k?

Skip to 7:30 in video for the sbs comparison. You have to remember that running games in 4K is killer for any GPU especially at Max settings. Then there are some games like Odyssey here which have high CPU requirements and are perhaps poorly optimized.

 

MowTin

Very comprehensive review. To sump it up the 2080 ti will give you about 30% fps boost. If a game runs well, you'll be able to bump up the supersampling and still have it run well. If a game runs poorly it will probably run well. 



It's really not worth $1300 if you already have a 1080 ti. I only regret it because it is a lot of money. But I do enjoy the added power that makes a lot of games look better. Arizona Sunshine now looks spectacular while running smoothly. 

RuneSR2

MowTin said:s 

Very comprehensive review. To sump it up the 2080 ti will give you about 30% fps boost. If a game runs well, you'll be able to bump up the supersampling and still have it run well. If a game runs poorly it will probably run well. 



It's really not worth $1300 if you already have a 1080 ti. I only regret it because it is a lot of money. But I do enjoy the added power that makes a lot of games look better. Arizona Sunshine now looks spectacular while running smoothly. 

Also the let's say 30 % extra performance may lift you from 45 fps ASW to a solid 90 fps in many games, especially compared to 1080 Ti. And Arizona Sunshine simply looks spectacular using super sampling 2.0.

Star-lizard

Ok this doesn't sound good for rtx cards

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/279050-nvidia-rtx-ray-tracing-northlight-engine-demo

AverageMario

I don't really think RTX2080Ti is worth buying at the moment. Indeed, it raises performance quite a bit but maybe it's better to wait until the price drops.

RuneSR2

The results with Assassins Creed Odyssey are quite strange - but have been reproduced several times:



At least the cpu can handle 80 fps (the cpu can probably go higher, but the video cards can't ;-) 2080 Ti is 14% faster than 1080 Ti. Let's crank up the res:



In 4K Ultra it's the same - 2080 Ti is 15% faster than 1080 Ti. So 1080 Ti isn't much slower than 2080 Ti - which is strange, guess 1080 Ti owners don't need to upgrade gpu for this game. 

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Assassins_Creed_Odyssey/

elboffor

dburne said:

LZoltowski said:

I have seen reports that the VirtualLink on the RTX cards already works

With a dongle like this:

Interesting, I may have to give this a go when I get my new EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3.
If it does that would be awesome.

I plugged my 3 sensors and headset usb into a none active usb 3 hub. And it just works.
2080 FE.
Absolutely cracking!