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Gtx1080Ti and RTX 2080Ti best price/comparison thread

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  • DilipDilip Posts: 256
    Nexus 6
    Here is nice review over why GTX 20 Series is better to be sidelined by say...almost ANYone

    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-2080-2070-gaming-performance-50-faster-vs-pascal-but-is-it-worth-it/

    So nvidia need hard reasons for GTX 20XX investment from real gamers... Miners are always there with their 
    wide open kitty and of-course salivating mouth. (God curse crypto miners...if he is there ofcourse  )
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,632 Valuable Player
    nalex66 said:
    Yeah, these prices are really damping my enthusiasm. I have no doubt that ray tracing will eventually be too enticing not to have an RTX card, but I'm not sure that the performance (or the uptake from developers) will be there in the first generation of RTX.

    In 2014 I paid $650 CAD for a GTX980, which was the most I'd ever spent on a GPU (also my first "8" level card since the 8800GTX). Less than two years later I paid $850 CAD for a GTX1080 (I sold my 980 for $400, so that softened the blow). Now another two years on, I'm having trouble justifying another $270 price increase for a single-gen upgrade to the RTX2080 (never mind the RTX2080Ti, which is double the price of my 1080).

    Currently my 1080 handles everything I play, so I'm going to either wait until better prices come about, or perhaps I'll wait until the next gen to get an RTX. When CV2 comes along, depending on its requirements, that may influence my decision, but I suspect that the 1080 will still be plenty powerful for it.

    Yup, this is my thinking too regarding my 1080. I'm going to be tempted to get a 2080Ti but the cost just isn't going to be worth it to me personally. I've got other things I want to buy next year too, including a CV2 and a Yaw VR motion simulator so I think I'm going to stick with my 1080 for now.
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited September 2018
    Howcome everyone talks about going for 2080 TI at £1200?

    Whats wrong with just going for a 2080 for £750? 

    Seems to me that people just want to buy the ti just because they can but what is wrong with just going for a 2080 for half the price? Surely the 2080 is still an amazing card? They said it can do 4k and future proof for VR etc? That's the card I'm planning on buying. Why would you want or need better then a 2080?

    Nvidia have been sneaky with this release. Usually something like a Geforce 2080Ti would come months after a Geforce 2080 and not be that much more money. By releasing the Geforce 2080Ti/Geforce2080, together, it has allowed them to slap another $500 on to a Geforce 2080Ti, which is a crazy price for a GeforceTi card.
  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,377 Valuable Player
    What we need is something akin to the HD4870. That really screwed nVidia and the silly high prices. Suddenly we could get great performing cards at half the price of the previous ones and nVidia had to drop their prices to even stay in the game.... just.

    So come on, AMD - get yer finger out and give us a top performing, mid-priced card to knock nVidia back down to earth.

    Unlikely, I know, but one can dream.




  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,127 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:

    Nvidia have been sneaky with this release. Usually something like a Geforce 2080Ti would come months after a Geforce 2080 and not be that much more money. By releasing the Geforce 2080Ti/Geforce2080, together, it has allowed them to slap another $500 on to a Geforce 2080Ti, which is crazy price for a GeforceTi card.
    You and a number of people say this but are Nvidia that stupidly obvious? Y'all make it sound like the 2080Ti isn't worth it, is a card only worth half the asking price and Nvidia are agents of illusion despite their cunning plans being seen right through by most people. There has to be some merit in their pricing for this card to compliment the market they are aiming for (and don't just dismiss us lot as being mugs). 

    I don't get the conspiracy theories, negativity and just plain hate levelled at Nvidia just because they are market leader and might have some questionable strategies with their marketing. But as pointed out, so do a lot of other companies including Oculus which most regulars here love to bits. I really enjoyed the 1080, then the 1080ti and never once felt like I was being ripped-off buying them when they first released. 

    For me the 2080 Ti will be a great card and worth the money spent. I can clearly see it's not for everyone but the price is providing a platform for resentment from some sectors of the PC community which I can't really get behind. 


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  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,654 Valuable Player

    Think they are expensive now, wait till you see the pricing the scalpers are selling them for once they have received their orders...
    Don

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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,516 Volunteer Moderator
    edited August 2018
    ...
    I don't get the conspiracy theories, negativity and just plain hate levelled at Nvidia just because they are market leader and might have some questionable strategies with their marketing. But as pointed out, so do a lot of other companies including Oculus which most regulars here love to bits. I really enjoyed the 1080, then the 1080ti and never once felt like I was being ripped-off buying them when they first released. 

    For me the 2080 Ti will be a great card and worth the money spent. I can clearly see it's not for everyone but the price is providing a platform for resentment from some sectors of the PC community which I can't really get behind. 

    I'm personally a big fan of Nvidia, and I'm happy to see them innovating. (Ray tracing is something I've played around with for 20 years, and to see it being done in real-time 60 fps is mighty impressive!)

    For this release though, I'm not seeing enough value (for my own use) to justify the high price. If you're gaming at 4K, sure, I can understand that you're hungry for more power, but for me at 1440p, I'm comfortable to stick with my GTX1080 for another year.
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  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,306 Valuable Player
    Brixmis said:
    I would never spend £750 on a card. I would never spend £500 on a card. Even if I had the cash to throw away. There's a limit to how much I will allow companies to overcharge me, and I won't let them rip me off by that much.

    I don't care how much research or technology has gone into it (that will likely be bugger-all use to me in any case). These cards could be a lot cheaper, but as long as the sheep of the world keep paying these silly prices, they won't come down.
    EXACTLY!!!!!!!
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,812 Volunteer Moderator
    My allowance is £1,000 every other generation of GPU. That got me my Titan, 3 and a bit years ago and if the 2080 Ti drops to that price (I.e. Drops to its MSRP) then I'll probably buy it.

    That £1,000 proved to be mighty good value 3 years ago as the card still runs everything, old games and new, at or near whatever settings I choose. All I need to decide is whether doing the same now will hold true for the next few years.

    Don't see why it wouldn't really. Games devs tend to target their game's performance to that level of GPU upgrade cycle I've found.
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    RedRizla said:

    Nvidia have been sneaky with this release. Usually something like a Geforce 2080Ti would come months after a Geforce 2080 and not be that much more money. By releasing the Geforce 2080Ti/Geforce2080, together, it has allowed them to slap another $500 on to a Geforce 2080Ti, which is crazy price for a GeforceTi card.
    You and a number of people say this but are Nvidia that stupidly obvious? Y'all make it sound like the 2080Ti isn't worth it, is a card only worth half the asking price and Nvidia are agents of illusion despite their cunning plans being seen right through by most people. There has to be some merit in their pricing for this card to compliment the market they are aiming for (and don't just dismiss us lot as being mugs). 

    I don't get the conspiracy theories, negativity and just plain hate levelled at Nvidia just because they are market leader and might have some questionable strategies with their marketing. But as pointed out, so do a lot of other companies including Oculus which most regulars here love to bits. I really enjoyed the 1080, then the 1080ti and never once felt like I was being ripped-off buying them when they first released. 

    For me the 2080 Ti will be a great card and worth the money spent. I can clearly see it's not for everyone but the price is providing a platform for resentment from some sectors of the PC community which I can't really get behind. 

    Nobody said anybody was a mug. I'm happy for the people who can afford to purchase a Geforce 2080Ti. Also, it's not a conspiracy theory. The Geforce 1080Ti was released months after the Geforce1080 for $699, which was a similar price to the Geforce 1080 at launch. I was just giving my opinion why I thought they had released them all at the same time this time..
  • BTobyBToby Posts: 2
    NerveGear
  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,377 Valuable Player
    What's the point of your post? Doesn't show which country, which dealer, if tax is included etc....?




  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,812 Volunteer Moderator
    @BToby thanks for the post and welcome to the forum. Can you add a link to that website? thanks
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,736 Volunteer Moderator
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,812 Volunteer Moderator
    mmm could be. The prices appear to be the same, my Newegg free shipping doesn't show up in green with a little van but could just be a browser specific thing.
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  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,774 Volunteer Moderator
    Sheesh, you can pick up a 1080Ti for £629 .... almost half the price of a 2080Ti ... sweet lord.
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,516 Volunteer Moderator
    edited August 2018
    Yeah, it's good to see the 1080Ti getting down to a more affordable price. I'm seeing one 1080Ti (MSI Armor) for $849 CAD (same price I paid for my 1080 at release, and half the price of a 2080Ti), but my preferred model (EVGA SC) is still around $1000 CAD. (Not that I'd really bother with a 1080Ti at this point, my next upgrade will be an RTX.)
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,572 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    Sheesh, you can pick up a 1080Ti for £629 .... almost half the price of a 2080Ti ... sweet lord.

    For VR, maybe the best thing is that prices for GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti now seem to be dropping. This way more persons will be able to better enjoy - or adopt - VR.

    I guess to most people RTX doesn't make much sense - I've seen prices for Asus RTX 2080 Ti at $1600-1700. And 2.5 to 2.7 slots custom coolers seem weird too (some card makers have 2 slots custom RTX coolers, but then these cards typically are extremely long - more than 310 mm and don't fit in many smaller cases). 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti both use max 250 watts - why do we need bigger or better coolers for the 2080 Ti? My guess is that the change from 16nm to 12nm concentrates more heat and possibly causes higher temps making it necessary to provide better cooling (Nvidia normally doesn't use 2 fans on FE, now they do) - but it's just a guess. 

    About 50% of my VR games perform perfectly at 90 fps using maxed setting plus ss 2.0! - These games will gain absolutely nothing by upgrading to 2080 (Ti). I've already completed Lone Echo, Robinson and more - so primarily if I got a RTX card, I might notice it in Seeking Dawn, Arizona Sunshine and Hellblade VR. But paying $1000+ to get minor improvements doesn't necessarily make much sense -  if at all - that is, maybe RTX won't lift me from 45 to 90 fps in all games (to be sure I'll need RTX to be 100% faster than 1080 and it probably won't be). Then there're other RTX improvements, but when VR games arrive that you're dying to play and that really utilize ray-tracing etc, better cards than RTX 2080 (Ti) may be available. My old rule, first important software, then hardware  B)    

    In short, I think we should collect our RTX upgrade money and send it to people in need in Africa - they need it much more than Nvidia  ;)o:)
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    A Geforce 1080Ti isn't really coming down in price when you consider it's launch price. It's just dropping to the price it was at launch..

    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-is-finally-here/
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,572 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    A Geforce 1080Ti isn't really coming down in price when you consider it's launch price. It's just dropping to the price it was at launch..

    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-is-finally-here/

    You're probably right - due to the miners prices have been up for so long I've forgotten the original price. Still some 1080 Ti cards seem to have dropped about $200 - 300 since the RTX launch, hopefully that's good for something...
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    RuneSR2 said:
    RedRizla said:
    A Geforce 1080Ti isn't really coming down in price when you consider it's launch price. It's just dropping to the price it was at launch..

    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-is-finally-here/

    You're probably right - due to the miners prices have been up for so long I've forgotten the original price. Still some 1080 Ti cards seem to have dropped about $200 - 300 since the RTX launch, hopefully that's good for something...

    Yes, it's a good thing, but I wouldn't pay that price for a card that's much older and has about $50 knocked of it's launch price to date. I've never looked at AMD Cards before, but I think that's the route I'm going to have to look at from now given my budget and Nvidia's pricing. I can wait though because I'd only be getting the card for the CV2. I currently game at 1080p and my Geforce 1080 is capable of VR and 1080p at present..
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,736 Volunteer Moderator
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    @Techy - I am expecting the Geforce 2080 to be about the same as a Geforce 1080Ti, which makes me wonder why the Geforce 1080Ti is still priced high. Maybe it will drop to something reasonable once the Geforce 2080's hit the shelves. I reckon the Geforce 2080Ti will be about 30% quicker then the Geforce 1080Ti. I'm looking forward to the real bench tests..
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,736 Volunteer Moderator
    I agree mate, my order of the 2080TI can be cancelled 3 days before posting, so I'll get to see benchmarks before I bite......but those 1080TI's are a dropping :)
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    I'm starting to wonder if the Geforce 7nm are going to be $2000, with the prices the way they are..
  • GreymanGreyman Posts: 1,324
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    Techy111 said:
    She didn't speak to me yesterday mate lol slowly oh so slowly coming around today, buying her a curry tonight but she says that is nowhere near enough  :/
    I've got a suggestion.

    Just tell her that in lieu of her next 3 years birthday presents, Christmas presents and maybe even anniversary presents and in the spirit of romance, it would be really sweet to see another 2080ti sat in your PC, alongside the one you have just bought.  :)
  • CongratulationsCongratulations Posts: 124
    Art3mis
    Why buy GPU that no one knows how much better 20 series is better than 10 series?
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,572 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    I'm starting to wonder if the Geforce 7nm are going to be $2000, with the prices the way they are..

    Exactly - Volta cards did even go higher, but it's not for gamers. Last evening using the CV1 I couldn't help thinking that my oc'ed 1080 was a nice match for the quality I'm experiencing in current VR games - that is, the CV1 resolution is limited, there're god rays and if you look for it the SDE is quite noticeable - and not to forget the grey fog (spud - lack of true OLED blacks). I couldn't help thinking that - unless some awesome VR game arrives soon - maybe it's better to wait for the CV2 and then consider what hardware I'll need to run the CV2 optimally. If we're going beyond 2k, I'd like a more high-res HMD with close to no SDE - and not just a new shiny turbo-motor to drive the old car... 
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,142 Valuable Player
    edited August 2018
    RuneSR2 said:
    RedRizla said:
    I'm starting to wonder if the Geforce 7nm are going to be $2000, with the prices the way they are..

    Exactly - Volta cards did even go higher, but it's not for gamers. Last evening using the CV1 I couldn't help thinking that my oc'ed 1080 was a nice match for the quality I'm experiencing in current VR games - that is, the CV1 resolution is limited, there're god rays and if you look for it the SDE is quite noticeable - and not to forget the grey fog (spud - lack of true OLED blacks). I couldn't help thinking that - unless some awesome VR game arrives soon - maybe it's better to wait for the CV2 and then consider what hardware I'll need to run the CV2 optimally. If we're going beyond 2k, I'd like a more high-res HMD with close to no SDE - and not just a new shiny turbo-motor to drive the old car... 

    Just imagine in a few years time people will still want half of what they paid for these cards. This means they will want something like $600 for a used Geforce 2080Ti in a few years time. I think we can safely say it's good bye to Geforce Ti cards ever been $699 when they are released again..
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