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From Texas to London: A Samsung Odyssey Journey

ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,264 Power Poster
Over the U.S. Thanksgiving Holiday, I sent our good friend @Shadowmask72 a brand new Samsung Odyssey+ and it's been quite fun witnessing how long it takes to get something from Texas to London. Measured in weeks, not days.

I didn't try the Odyssey+ myself, I just held the HMD and Controllers in my hands for a bit. I didn't want to hook it up and "soil it" before our beloved ShadowMask was able to break it in proper. My initial impressions just holding the HMD and Controllers was that there is a bit of bulkiness that isn't to my liking. I know that the Odyssey+ (much like the Vive Pro) offers visual improvements over the Rift, but in the end I still put comfort above all else. Granted, I tend to stay in VR for multiple hours at a time, so comfort becomes crucial.

Other than that, though, I have to say that the Odyssey+ is a sexy piece of equipment. Mr. Shadow had asked me to purchase and ship it to him, since no Retailers allow online purchasing to the UK. I was about to order it online from the Microsoft Store on his behalf when I realized that I can just drive to the Microsoft store here in town. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the MS Store was actually giving live demo's of the Oculus Rift that day. They used to give nonstop HTC Vive demo's. And they were offering the Odyssey+ at a reduced cost that day, so I'm surprised that MS didn't have it set up as a demo to push sales!

I remember how much Oculus was criticized for not having more demo's setup properly at Best Buy locations, and that problem involves two different organizations. But Microsoft sells Odyssey+ direct, so they have no real excuse as to why they would have a Rift or Vive demo setup in the absence of their own in-stock Windows Mixed Reality headsets.

Regardless of all that, I look forward to ShadowMasks' review of this fine looking HMD. Cheers!
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  • OmegaM4NOmegaM4N Posts: 239
    Nexus 6
    Oh, i hope this mean MS will sell the Odyssey + over there in the UK at some point if they are selling them directly. :)
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 5,007 Volunteer Moderator
    And the next instalment will be Zen sending some real Texan BBQ Brisket over to me here in London, will it take weeks, will it smell, will it be edible ???? Wait and see so stay tuned ;)
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 12,264 Power Poster
    I'll send you my meat, Techy. It stays fresh during overseas travel. Tried, tested, and true.
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  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,429 Volunteer Moderator
    Awesome stuff! @Shadowmask72 ; does great reviews matched only in detail to @Zenbane 's game reviews.

    Also, serious question here, is there an import tax duty thing on importing sexy Texan cowboys to the UK? Asking for a friend.
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,165 Power Poster
    Yes. I got charged £72 for VAT and a holding charge but no import duty actually. Yeh I am still experimenting with this so review will come once I have more hours under my wing. So far there is good and bad points as others already pointed out.  But at least this thread proves that Zelator does possess a kind side somewhere.


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  • KlodsBrikKlodsBrik Posts: 782
    3Jane
    Im getting hungry reading this thread .. Food, porn or a mixture !

    If @Shadowmask72 review is great, can I please have this "meal" or whatever it is, delivered as 2nd in queue?

    Be good, die great !
  • Hiro_Protag0nistHiro_Protag0nist Posts: 4,523 Valuable Player
    KlodsBrik said:
    Im getting hungry reading this thread .. Food, porn or a mixture !

    If @Shadowmask72 review is great, can I please have this "meal" or whatever it is, delivered as 2nd in queue?


    And there it is.  A genuine request for another poster's meat.  And he wants a go after Techy!
  • Hiro_Protag0nistHiro_Protag0nist Posts: 4,523 Valuable Player
    This is awesome by the way - I wish we had Microsoft stores you could walk in and buy things from.  Ridiculous.
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 5,341 Power Poster
    Yes. I got charged £72 for VAT and a holding charge but no import duty actually. Yeh I am still experimenting with this so review will come once I have more hours under my wing. So far there is good and bad points as others already pointed out.  But at least this thread proves that Zelator does possess a kind side somewhere.

    If Zen had marked it as a GIFT then you wouldn't have had to pay anything I think, certainly not the VAT. B)
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 5,341 Power Poster
    And anyone in London is more than welcome to my meat, just as long as they're aware that it's only a party sized chipolata :(
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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 442
    Trinity
    edited December 7
    Good summation and pretty closely mirrors my feelings on the O+. It's a good complimentary headset but it's not good enough to replace the Rift. Reviewers saying otherwise are probably sponsored by Samsung lol. (Either that or they're comparing a native resolution Rift with no supersampling, in which case yea the O+ slays it. Supersampling 1.5 or above makes the Rift win in most games when you factor in everything).

    The games where the O+ just hands down beats the Rift for me on a GTX 1080 is like Gorn. Colorful/cartoony aesthetic games work really well in the Odyssey+. Movies too obviously and also games where there's a lot of bright scenes that make the Oculus SDE look its worst. With darker games like Aircar, the SDE differences between the headsets are pretty minor and you still have the superior tracking of the Rift. 


  • PhoenixSpyderPhoenixSpyder Posts: 138
    Art3mis
    I definitely concur with whats been said. The 'no' SDE is a major plus for the O+ but for me it's just no where near enough to make me want to jump ship from the Rift. I amount of performance overhead available to the Rift (due to lower res, FOV...etc) for SS - seals it for me for using the Rift for most if not all my Steam games.

    - The controls are okay, but yes are bulky...the Touch is still leagues ahead imo.

    - the Fresnel concentric rings on the O+ are a major distraction to me in bright areas. To me, much more distracting than godrays. I see a slight transparent veil over the image all the time on the O+...but not at all on the Rift.

    - I'm not as impressed by the headphones on the O+. The Rift to me just sounds much better.

    - Comfort with the O+ is fine for me. On the Rift, the nose cloth causes my nose to be constantly itchy...minor irritation. I find myself having to adjust the O+ for sweet spot way more than the Rift. The Rift just goes on and the sweet spot is attainable in seconds.

    - Having to rely on Steam VR for O+ is lacking for me due to how badly Steam VR is optimized. Thank God for Open Composite for the Rift for running Steam games. Hope this changes in the future with OpenXR.

    - Tracking is great on the O+ but if you put your hands to the far left or right, almost behind you, or close to your head, you will loose tracking.

    - SDE really becomes evident when going to the Rift from the O+. It usually takes me a couple of hrs to become blind to it again on the Rift after coming from using the O+ in the same session.

    - I can usually eliminate aliasing on the Rift completely with high SS + anti-aliasing options, but not on the O+ without sacrificing fps. Seeing a game running without aliasing on the Rift is incredible, especially when it's running at 90fps. (Shameless plug for OpenComposite inserted here). This may change when OpenXR enables O+ to run Steam games without SteamVR...or if by some miracle SteamVR kicks itself in the ass and actually brings something good to the table (like reducing the multiple gigs of shit it has to sift through while operating).

    I'll definitely use both the Rift and the O+ but only for what each are suited for for this generation. Can't wait to see what Valve has in store, or what Oculus will do with their new patent for the future.



  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 5,341 Power Poster
    I would imagine that anyone going from a Vive to an Odyssey+ would have a much better opinion of the Odyssey+ because the SDE is godawful on the Vive and the Rift's displays are sharper and clearer then the Vive's.
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  • sootiesternssootiesterns Posts: 6
    NerveGear
    With these period of days spending. How many date was countered to London from Texas with one of your best friend?
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,165 Power Poster
    Bit of an awkward one @Sootiesterns as the week had Thanksgiving and then Black Friday and Cyber Monday. The price paid was supposed to be guaranteed 3-5 business days except it ended up being from the 19th November  to December 5th delivered (which I collected from local depot). Had I waited it would have been delivered December 7th.


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