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Fallout 4 VR - So What's It Like... Really!

DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,755 Valuable Player
edited January 2 in General

My installation is vanilla but with the DLC added. I haven't played through any of the quest based DLCs yet but am using objects from the Workshop DLC with no problems.


The Great

Admiring your weapon. One of the first things to impress me was just holding a pistol on my hand, moving it about to see it move in front of me like i was really holding it, admiring it from all angles. Not unique in the world of VR, but completely new to Fallout and such an enhancement. So real!

Scoped weapons. This feature wasn't initially enabled but arrived with a game update and works supurbly well. I find myself supporting my weapon hand with my other hand to steady the aim. Another tick for realism.

Grabbing stuff seems to be quicker and easier than before. Large number of objects can be picked up quicker. This surprised me a little and reaching for stuff is better, you can reach for objects that you coudn't reach before, reach through windows to get stuff.

Edit: the only slight issue is that for the VR version, grabbed objects move quickly towards the hand you're using to grab them, rather than just disappear from the world, which is good cos it's kind of realistic, but any objects they're in or touching can fly out of the way in the process. To avoid this I tend to position my hand above an open box that the object's in before grabbing so that the box isn't disturbed by the object's movement for example.


Analogue movement. This sholdn't be underestimated. FPSs all too often have consol type speed and direction change implemetations, meaning movement speeds are limited to walk/run/spring and directions are limited to one of 8 directions. VR almost always implements gradual speed changes dependent on the extent of the analogue stick movement and gradual direction change dependent on the direction of the analogue stick or the direction you're pointing the controller. So much more realistic and immersive.

Leaning around stuff, ducking behind objects, looking into stuff. Whether you're ducking a bullet, searching for loot or just admiring a singer in a bar! it's all so much more involving when you just move your head and body, rather than press buttons. I didn't bother leaning before but now I'm doing it all the time cos it's natural.

The scale of the world. Nothing to say here except you just don't understand world scale until you've played in VR.


The Good

Movement. This initially takes a little getting used to. Sprinting is initiated by a press-in of the left thumb stick (not my favourite control operation). A brief press and release is all that's needed, you carry on sprinting as long as you keep the thumbstick forward.
Movement direction is controlled by moving your left thumbstick in the direction you want to move or by pointing the controller in that direction... or a combination of the both. This becomes second nature pretty quickly.
Slightly annoyingly, sprinting is interrupted when you move your head more than 45 deg to the left or right, so you eventually learn to not move your head much when sprinting... and look around a lot when your AP runs out and your sprint is forced to reduce to a run.
Sprinting however isn't interrupted when moving in a different direction no matter how big that change of direction is, nor by quick turning, jumping or landing from a height.

Graphics: Resolution (per degree of visibility) is less, as with all VR games, and can lead to more surprise encounters with small critters which you may have noticed at a further distance when playing on a large decent monitor. Creatures like bloodbugs and bloatflies. This doesn't necessarily detract from the game but can add a little more chalange.

Unlike most made-for-VR games, Fallout 4 was created for displays that have many more pixels per degree and it's noticeable... and it's a game which makes me wish for the next gen headset, more than any other game.

Texture glitches. This happen occasionally and include distant scenery smearing (happens briefly and self corrects) and wet surface light reflections that change as you move your head (easily ignored and not really an issue).

Glitches and resolution aside, the world is just gorgeous. It's big and it's varied and it's full of life. So despite quibbles with resolution and a few glitches, graphics are good.


Edit:

The So-so

Using the weapons selection wheel can be a bit of a fumble when you're panicked (which is quite often). It's not as easy as pressing a weapon hotkey or moving a mouse thumbwheel. Also, if you happen to be pointing your controller at a character or object that has options available to it (such as a door or when your companion moves in front of you) the options for that person/object take priority over the ability to make the weapon selection wheel appear. This has caused my to die a lot! until I got used to automatically point up or away from the object before invoking the selection wheel. This is an inevitable result of having to cram so many options into so few controller buttons. You can see this as a problem or you can see it as adding to the challenge… I choose to think the latter!


The Not So Good

Melee. This used to be my default method for killing radroaches but it seems to be a lot harder to hit the target in VR. Now i just don't

Edit: Game crashes - Just like the pancake version, the game will crash (with roughly the same frequency). You may go though a week or 2 without a single crash, then it could happen twice in a single session. This is just the same as the pancake version, but in VR, when it eventually happens, it's much more jarring. It's like having your real world suddenly crash around you and it's unpleasant! but I'd say it happen on average, maybe 1 crash every 25 hours of play so I can live with it.


The Bad

Swimming - Very glitched.
Entering water sometimes causes movement to lock. A press of either trigger re-enables movement.
Exiting water sometimes causes your weapon to lock in a weird visual way. Changing your weapon restores it to normal.
The swimming/wading through water sound is glitched and sometimes continues after you exit the water, cured by changing your weapon.
Swimming, for me at least seems to be silent.
Swimming under water is HARD WORK! requires lots of arm movement to mimic real swimming but you move by small amounts. It was a nice idea to implement swimming actions but poorly implemented resulting in a big reluctance to go diving.


Overall

At 268 hours so far, this is the VR game I've played more than any other, and at about 50% through the main quest, as well as the DLC to get through, there's plenty more still to do. So buy this game, don't rush through the quests, just enjoy the world and lose yourself in it... and be prepared to abandon all the important stuff you meant to get done on your New Year's resolution list!

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Comments

  • LuluViBritanniaLuluViBritannia Posts: 461
    Trinity
    Hey there,
    Thank you for this awesome review! Only one thing I would like to confirm:

    the world is just gorgeous. It's big and it's varied and it's full of life.

    Is it true? I mean, I don't know Fallout (never played any before), but from what I saw, it is mostly desert landscapes (which is what always kept me away from these games, btw).
    Current VR results imo:
    - Great small apps. Great ports of bigger games.
    - Great VR-specific features. Not enough showcased!!!
    - Too many actors in the industry, the market is totally broken.


    My hopes for VR next gen:

    - Better ratio between visual quality and power needs. No more godrays and less SDE.
    - Full Body Tracking.


    "If you don't mind, do you want me to take you there? Where dreams come true."
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,755 Valuable Player
    edited January 2
    I don't know Fallout (never played any before), but from what I saw, it is mostly desert landscapes (which is what always kept me away from these games, btw).

    I've heard people say Fallout is a bit sparse compared to some other games but really I've never felt that. The wastelands in Fallout 3 outside of the capital area were pretty much that... wastelands, as they were meant to be in a post apocalyptic world, but even so they definitely weren't barren, plenty of life there. Same thing with New Vegas, but when you got into Vegas itself there was a different kind of life and environment.

    In Fallout 4, the world is a little different, more vegetation, being set around Boston and more gradual variations in my opinion. The plant life changes depending on how far south or east you travel... to the point that you can just about recognise roughly where you are by the vegetation alone. And wildlife is all over the place but you want to be careful what you wish for... in VR, you may be happier not encountering creatures cos they're just more scary. A pack of wild dogs for example use the tactic of surrounding you, which, in VR, really is surrounding! and gets the adrenaline pumping when it happens for the first time.

    And there are plenty of people to interact with too, not just quest related, with specific dialogue and actions, but settlers you can recruit to your, erm, settlements and allocate tasks to.

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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,484 Valuable Player

    At 268 hours so far, this is the VR game I've played more than any other

    268 VR hours? 


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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    Puke inducing - so if you're a borderline case, be prepared. ;)




  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,755 Valuable Player

    I'd recommend the 45 deg quick-turn option rather than smooth turning.

    ...but then I'm pretty much immune to VR sickness anyway, unless it's VR that involves Japanese kawaii animated schoolgirls.

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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    I have no problems in the vault - but once I got outside it built up steadily and has been the same each time I tried since. I did try the various options - I find the step turn options in all games disorientating and therefore worse than smooth. The key for me is slower smooth turning - but it's not just turning in this game, even looking around outside starts it off.
    Got past it with Skyrim, so next time I try Fallout 4 VR, I may find things have improved, have to see.




  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,755 Valuable Player

    That's interesting... I found the smooth turn more unpleasant. I guess everyone's different and it probably depends a lot on what you're used to. There's the teleport option if all else fails but I haven't used it outside of VATS cos it would be pretty immersion breaking I think.

    Skyrim's been in my library since launch but I haven't tried it yet. I assume it uses the same movement options so you'd probably be ok in Fallout now.

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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,484 Valuable Player
    edited January 3

    Yep, VR hours. I confess I'm a Fallout addict so this is the game that was always going to pull me in.

    I just checked how many hours I spent in the pancake versions and it's a little frightening!

    Username checks out... :p

    Not sure the confession was required dude.




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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,755 Valuable Player

    The Great

    Admiring your weapon. 



    ...good thing I didn't mention bobbleheads
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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    edited January 3
    Are there any texture mods that work with FO4VR?


    *fergit that - just answered my own question:

    https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/318

    as I have MO2 already installed for Skyrim mods, I'll see what I can do with Fallout - might make a difference.





  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    edited January 13
    never mind - probably not current ;)




  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 3,484 Valuable Player
    Brixmis said:
    Are there any texture mods that work with FO4VR?


    https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/318



    Did you get this to work and if so, how?


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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    edited January 13
    I used MO2 to install it - haven't tested it yet, though - not had time.


    *no - I just had a check and it won't start. Have to look into it.




  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,289 Valuable Player
    edited January 13
    No - it seems this mod won't work at all. I just did a manual install, taking all necessary steps and the game wouldn't start - so same as doing it with MO2. That's a shame, I think it would make a nice difference to the experience and perhaps make me not feel sick.

    So far I've not felt pukey with this, this time around - probably due to playing SkyrimVR a lot, but I'm not counting my chickens.

    PS:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4vr/comments/9shlq1/fallout_4_vr_2018_mods_tweaks_suggestions/


    and:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xz4VSYQYlGXxUEuHXdN4yF44x72nm_8EshPVkbzKcSk/edit#gid=1245599248






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