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APP/Game's Feedback and Critique Megathread (things that irritate you in otherwise great content)

MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
Wintermute
edited June 1 in Games and Apps
BEAT SABER - still not added Custom Songs feature with Auto-Mapping (like BOXVR) yet is a Mod plus you made the Sabers hollow. That sucks!

BIGSCREEN
- The point of the scenes is what? Why need to use Right Thumb Button to close menu we did not open and then Desktop need Button B to close arrow on Desktop we did not open? It sucks! [FIXED]

DANCE COLLIDER - still got the hideously loud BEEP for menu selections. The dancers don't follow any moves to the actual trail. Although I know you want to make it better, these still suck even after today's Update!

DOOM VFR - we must use AutoHotkey to get Smooth Loco working. It's time it was officially brought to Rift. It sucks if it breaks it again!

ECHO VR
- Please just rid the Dinosaur to get outside the Map Easter Egg. Most of time I enter there are most players outside the bloody map and not interested to join Combat/Arena! That sucks!

ECHO COMBAT - No Dynamic Analogue Joystick control as if we are playing with an XBOX Controller. What was the point of all the control on the Touch we bought them for? It is well worth it and still much better than Space Junkies but this one thing sucks so much!

ELITE:DANGEROUS - For Joystick 16000M, the Slider if on full/off OR moving prevents Mouse appearing in GalMap. We need to set it at 90% Axis to then view the Target Circle. It sucks!

GOOGLE EARTH - Seriously, using a grab and drag to turn? WTF that just sucks!

IN DEATH - OK it started as an Archery Game but they attack us in close combat with Swords. We could do with a Sword as it sucks!

MAGIC TABLE CHESS - We can change seats but it doesn't turn the chess board. That sucks!

ROBO RECALL - we need to use the Mod for Smooth Loco which can break the follow-on screens. That sucks it still hasn't got it officially!

SPACE JUNKIES - The movement and binds for Touch for this are hideous as is the menu method. It sucks! [FIXED]

VRCHAT - although Walking has Dynamic Analogue Joystick control, Turning doesn't but is same as ECHO VR with a switched ON/OFF. MIC is on Mute by Default. That all sucks!


Feel free to add to the list. No need to discuss or argue on mine. Just add yours which is the point to this thread as a LIST OF SHAME to help improve our enjoyment.
Besides all that. I'm very happy thanks ;)
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  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,774 Volunteer Moderator
    I would advise you to contact the developers of each title via their support channels with your feedback.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,477 Valuable Player
    edited March 29
    I'm happy that someone finally told the Elite and Doom VFR devs - now everything will be fixed in no time - awesome!  :)

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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    Well there seems to be this compiling list so I created a list. The DEVs don't fix these when asked so I think this is good for motivation purposes. I am very happy with VR but those niggles hold me going back more so I steer towards what is perfect and I enjoy so as not to be reminded of the inherent weakness they hold.
    I made my own list for all good intentions however funny it is. If I were a DEV I'd not want to be listed and seek to resolve the issues ;)
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,044 Valuable Player
    Digikid1 said:
    Do you ever NOT complain?  Sry but it comes off that way. 

    Stop complaining about him complaining...
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    Nobody else likes to add to the list huh? Just the usual LOLs and no offence taken by the way. Seems those that want perfection are very rare OR have been put off trying. If Oculus wants great success it needs greater perfection by these standards before it falls apart. It's reckless to leave VR in an unfinished state like these.
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,527 Valuable Player
    Probably not the best medium for this type of thing. Either reddit or Steam Forums is best, since Developers read those locations the most.
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  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,035 Valuable Player
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    Nobody else likes to add to the list huh? Just the usual LOLs and no offence taken by the way. Seems those that want perfection are very rare OR have been put off trying. If Oculus wants great success it needs greater perfection by these standards before it falls apart. It's reckless to leave VR in an unfinished state like these.
    Those who seek perfection are fools...because such a thing doesn’t exist. 

    A saying that I was taught growing up. Good and true advice. 
  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited March 29
    The most common theme being Touch Smooth Loco. It's as though DEVs were not given a good example in the Oculus Demos. Well it showed us to control our finger & thumb and at least THE CLIMB used the dynamic Grip on Difficult Mode which makes you work so much harder for lasting stamina. Oh, there were no Smooth Loco Demos and they all choose the Transport method as adopted from DK2 due to thinking we'd get Motion Sickness as if everyday day of 3years was our first!!! (I been sick once as was my VR graduating ceremony)
    It's just insane and profoundly disappointing that games have not considered the full potential of Touch, especially whilst Knuckles is out, and even now Rift S will use Finger Tracking in the very near future! Will it get used??? I think NOT!
  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 918
    3Jane
    snowdog said:
    Digikid1 said:
    Do you ever NOT complain?  Sry but it comes off that way. 

    Stop complaining about him complaining...
    Stop complaining about him complaining about him complaining!  Kids today!!!
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  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 918
    3Jane
    Just as a total aside - DOOM VFR works flawlessly with an Xbox controller - even if the gun you are using is attached to your head...
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited April 1
    Just out of interest @RattyUK, does the XBOX use Dynamic Analogue Joystick control on Doom or any other? Sure I got the Oculus one supplied but never use it. It does SUCK Devs didn't utilize the full capability of Touch. Sure I use the Mod but it could break again from an update.
  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 918
    3Jane
    @MAC_MAN86 ; - I have to say I haven't noticed how well implemented joystick control is on Doom VFR - I had accidentally left the stick plugged in from playing Dirt Rally when I started playing...  things got hectic real fast and I had a ball!
    I'll check it out next time I play - if I can find a quieter spot to mess around in :)
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  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,035 Valuable Player
    B) snowdog said:
    Digikid1 said:
    Do you ever NOT complain?  Sry but it comes off that way. 

    Stop complaining about him complaining...
    Let me think about that....

    Nope. 
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,044 Valuable Player
    Digikid1 said:
    B) snowdog said:
    Digikid1 said:
    Do you ever NOT complain?  Sry but it comes off that way. 

    Stop complaining about him complaining...
    Let me think about that....

    Nope. 

    Well I'm going to complain about you thinking about it and saying nope.

    I think the mods need to ban you for this behaviour. Bloody troublemaker!!!
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    I got 3 Updates today...
    1. Dance Collider - any fixes for reported bugs? NOPE just as the last update. Sucks!
    2. Echo VR - the "SuperUltraHyperTurbo" April Fool's Update. No fix for Dynamic Analogue Joysticks. Sucks!
    3. Beat Saber - the altered Hollow Sabers now feature some sparking effect within them. Very cool and much better than the older solid sabers. Well done! Now add Auto-Mapping of Custom Songs like BOXVR!
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,035 Valuable Player
    snowdog said:
    Digikid1 said:
    B) snowdog said:
    Digikid1 said:
    Do you ever NOT complain?  Sry but it comes off that way. 

    Stop complaining about him complaining...
    Let me think about that....

    Nope. 

    Well I'm going to complain about you thinking about it and saying nope.

    I think the mods need to ban you for this behaviour. Bloody troublemaker!!!

  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,774 Volunteer Moderator
    I will allow this thread to continue under one condition for now: @MAC_MAN86 please re-think the title of the thread so it's less incendiary, perhaps "Game's feedback and critique Megathread", that would be much appreciated.  
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    I'm sure the present community realize all the light humour is being social. It may look messy to new-comers but fear not, no incendiaries are intended to hurt feelings, it's a great community spirit. Thank you @LZoltowski.
  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    I take that's a self-motivation kick and plug at the same time hehe. So it works ;)
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,044 Valuable Player
    Yup, there's another sale on the Unreal Marketplace at the moment so I might get my hands on some hands during the next few days.

    I was going to make my own but I don't think my modelling and animation skills are quite up to it.
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  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,774 Volunteer Moderator
    Thanks @MAC_MAN86 much appreciated.

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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    VRCHAT - although Walking has Dynamic Analogue Joystick control, Turning doesn't but is same as ECHO VR with a switched ON/OFF. That sucks!
  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited May 18
    OCULUS HOME/DASH - has the worst movement of all and even uses 2 Touch that are the same at it! 
     - No Strafe! 
    - 2 Touch to turn at 2x snail pace which is still SLOW!
    - Whilst trying to position yourself in front of the Avatar Mirror the Left/Right Joysticks move the Menu Panel!
    - We can walk through all our Objects/Furniture we add even though the room obstructs us e.g. a Fire Place!
    - RESET VIEW is in 3 different places yet does not utilise 2 Thumbsticks as most Games/Apps do so leave those unbound!
    - The WATCH can be added in DASH yet it disappears when switching out of DASH whilst staying in your Home but why???
    - Must Invite your Friends to come to meet you rather than meeting up in a Lobby with all your ONLINE FRIENDS being there to mix/socialise. Many Games actually are so ignorant to allow adding friends but because it really is that badly done! Inviting the odd Friend into your Home will soon wear off. Such a wasted design.
    - "COMFORT MODE" should be renamed to swapping to mean Smooth Loco as quite frankly being suddenly jerked into a Snap Turn OR Teleport is seriously NOT comfortable by any means. It was first used as such back in DK2 and early CV1 Runtimes that aloud older PC to run but had poor performance. They BLOCKED old tech back in Nov.2018 from working (even with a CPU Hack) and so raised the bar for most of us to run at their "recommended specs". It highly distresses me to have to keep changing settings from such comfort mechanics. It's gone all snowflakes!
    - "VIRTUAL DESKTOP" in DASH (they must change that name to OCULUS DESKTOP as is copyrighted by another App!) has a brilliant looking 3D KEYBOARD with nice light shading. However, it can not be Pinned to use in any Game that would benefit it. Furthermore, if using MS STORE "FREE VIRTUAL KEYBOARD" and maximising in a Window then Pinning it, it too can not be used in a Game to type e.g. Elite:Dangerous' Gal Map due to it won't Stay On Top to keep focus on both. You can only use a real keyboard - provide a solution if there is one please?
    - The UI add-ons are a total dog's dinner of little boxed menus added here and there. Disgusting!
    - Touch Controllers are not being switched OFF when put away!
    - GAMES/APPS UPDATES can fail due to some Win10 Permissions from it's Security Updates. Far safer to add Default Install to a 2nd Drive other than OS Drive! Can be done manually but is not provided as an option!
    - WARN or FORCE Antivirus=OFF when installing. They tell us later when trying to install it again after problems!

    PLEASE VOTE HERE
  • MowTinMowTin Posts: 1,734 Valuable Player
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    Nobody else likes to add to the list huh? Just the usual LOLs and no offence taken by the way. Seems those that want perfection are very rare OR have been put off trying. If Oculus wants great success it needs greater perfection by these standards before it falls apart. It's reckless to leave VR in an unfinished state like these.
    I appreciate your list. You're just pointing out some annoying issues. Here are some of my gripes

    1. Fallout 4 VR. 90% of the DLC work yet the devs can't spend a few minutes to fix the minor problems that prevent full DLC from working. 

    2. Mage's Tale. Why no smooth turning? Snap turning but no smooth turning option. It's just an option. 

    3. Skyrim VR. No VR holsters for weapons and items. Yet modders have been able to add this. Why couldn't Bethesda have done this? It makes a HUGE difference grabbing weapons from holsters versus opening a menu. 

    4. From Other Suns. Great game but the game browser is useless. 

    5. Megatron Rainfall. It's a really cool game but would be so much better with proper touch support where you aim with the controllers not your head. 

    6. Robo Recall and Marvel United. Why no campaign? A campaign in both of those games would be fantastic. 

    (I'm not sure I understand your issue with Echo Combat VR. That's one of the best controls in VR)
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