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Acer OJO 4320 x 2160 display

pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
edited April 2019 in General
Pretty sweet looking headset. And no that's not per eye lol.  It's going to be 2160x2160. I know Kevin mentioned this in the Index thread awhile back but there's a new article on it. And yea it's WMR.







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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    Yeah the story had broken but none of the Western mainstream seemed interested till the Japanese media ran with it. I feel that the Western VR media had a narrative they were handed and are loathed to consider alternatives unless bidden into covering it. The same thing with Valve - the number of "shock horror" this is a thing from sites that had written off the leaked images of the Index as fake (sites that normally jump at leaked info!) 

    Just back from presenting at VRX Europe and got serious time on the Reverb and a new system using a highres screen and tracking solution (image), the Enterprise scene is really catching fire post OSVR and StarVR.



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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,268 Valuable Player
    edited April 2019
    StarVR could be awesome with 210 degrees fov, 450 grams of weight and eye tracking - if the price comes down:







    - and the display is OLED (AMOLED), no cheap-ish LCD ;-). 

    One minor problem may be the price... (and lack of headphones):


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  • MradrMradr Posts: 3,561 Valuable Player
    edited April 2019
    I thought StarVR was out?  IF it wasn't - I want this :O It was one of the lowest price headsets for the feature sets (eye tracking, high FOV, 4k by 4k res, etc). At 3k it wasn't that bad of a deal for business customers for all the advancements it was getting. If one headset could rule them all it was the that headset xD too bad the company just couldn't keep up. As far as getting the price down - they still had a few options - such as switching to LCD over OLED just to get it under the 2,800 mark for the most part. Less plastic design could've also shave off some of the manufacturing cost.

    In all good faith - its one of the best spec headsets I wish wasn't lost in the sea of business. I hope they sell or someone buys their IP that can make use of it in the future.
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    edited April 2019
    StarVR is owned by Acer so who knows.
  • OmegaM4NOmegaM4N Posts: 630
    Neo
    Modular design, what a fantastic idea, imaging keeping your earphones and headset that you are happy with and just replacing the Screen or lenses to a better res.....i love that idea.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,268 Valuable Player
    Mradr said:
    I thought StarVR was out?  IF it wasn't - I want this :O 

    Alive and kicking right here:

    https://www.starvr.com/

    This may be the one HMD that even the Index can't touch (much ;-) But 3k would be dead in the water even for gaming enthusiasts.
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  • MradrMradr Posts: 3,561 Valuable Player
    OmegaM4N said:
    Modular design, what a fantastic idea, imaging keeping your earphones and headset that you are happy with and just replacing the Screen or lenses to a better res.....i love that idea.
    The problem with modular design is cost and over all - just too many options for the end customer in a way. I am ok with upgrades of course - but as we saw with HTC - it can also feel a bit disappointing getting the base model to only have to keep throwing more money to upgrade to the highest tier of the same headset.
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    ....
    Alive and kicking right here:
    ....

    The definition of "alive and kicking" may be mute - the situation over the "undisclosed of missing funds" from the Starbreeze too Acer, in the court filing may mean that StarVR may not be able to reemerge, but from past experience I am prepared to wait and see till November - then the bet is off!
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,268 Valuable Player
    kevinw729 said:
    RuneSR2 said:
    ....
    Alive and kicking right here:
    ....

    The definition of "alive and kicking" may be mute - the situation over the "undisclosed of missing funds" from the Starbreeze too Acer, in the court filing may mean that StarVR may not be able to reemerge, but from past experience I am prepared to wait and see till November - then the bet is off!
    Maybe I was too positive - but they do have a website up and running, interesting to see what'll happen later this year.
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    I understand that the executive board are working hard to run a "everything is normal" in order to secure new business, but it s best to look beyond the hyperbole. 
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  • OmegaM4NOmegaM4N Posts: 630
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    edited April 2019
    Mradr said:
    OmegaM4N said:
    Modular design, what a fantastic idea, imaging keeping your earphones and headset that you are happy with and just replacing the Screen or lenses to a better res.....i love that idea.
    The problem with modular design is cost and over all - just too many options for the end customer in a way. I am ok with upgrades of course - but as we saw with HTC - it can also feel a bit disappointing getting the base model to only have to keep throwing more money to upgrade to the highest tier of the same headset.
    Yeah i just found out recently the Vive only comes with earbuds, and i hate those, don't like anything in my ear canal, and the deluxe strap thing is over £100, so that was the final nail in that coffin for purchasing a Vive, as i was going to trade in my Dell visor towards a Vive, but after finding out about the vive earbuds i just stipped down a pair of my Betron overear headphones and stuck them onto the Dell visor, so total cost to have a WMR headwet with proper earphones connected to it like on the Rift......a £10 Betron headphones. ha

    I am now in a good position to happily wait a year and see what Vr has to offer in again in upgrades. :)
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,268 Valuable Player
    edited November 2019


    Seems like Acer OJO 500 is out with a 1 year delay - it's "just" the usual 3K-ish, namely 2880x1440, thus slightly lower res than Cosmos and Index - and it's WMR (90 Hz, 100 degrees fov) - more info here:

    https://de-store.acer.com/acer-ojo-500-de?utm_source=www.acer.de&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=CLM&utm_content=VP.R0AEE.002

    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/acerojo500

    https://www.roadtovr.com/acer-vr-ojo-500-launch-delay/

    Not sure it brings anything new to the table, price is the same as Rift-S, OJO res is better, audio is probably much better, but tracking will be worse. OJO 500 supports physical IPD adjustment too. Seems Acer focused a lot on comfort. Maybe OJO 500 is just a nice HMD for persons who want WMR but think Reverb res is too high?





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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    edited November 2019
    Yeah @RuneSR2 - this is a weird one. I am not sure if its been placed on consumer players after the fall-out of the Acer / StarVR situation. Its performance is better than WinMR but not really a Cosmos killer. I think this is the last of the "not quite enterprise" headset of this generation. 

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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 1,657
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    Only two ways  wmr is going to go.  Either Microsoft dumps it or someone else picks it up imho.

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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    edited November 2019
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only two ways  wmr is going to go.  Either Microsoft dumps it or someone else picks it up imho.

    Agree, though I think it would be a real long-shot to see someone pick it up. It has "Daydream" written all over it at the moment - and as MS is "reallocating" execs at the moment, I think their VR experiment has limited time on life-support. 

    The media will have a field-day when they finally throw in the towel - and with the Project Scarlet VR rumors proving bogus - I think that MS may be focusing on its Enterprise VR & AR for the time being. 
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,899 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    Mradr said:
    I thought StarVR was out?  IF it wasn't - I want this :O 

    Alive and kicking right here:

    https://www.starvr.com/

    This may be the one HMD that even the Index can't touch (much ;-) But 3k would be dead in the water even for gaming enthusiasts.


    Well it seems we were right again - the StarVR platform has been placed on hold indefinitely. This may explain why Acer decided to dust off their year-old headset so they could at least still have a horse in the race. An embarrassing end to a headset that was surrounded in so much hyperbole.

    https://www.starvr.com/news/40/
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