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Microsoft Flight Simulator is Coming Back - but will it have VR?

DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator
edited June 2019 in General

I'm desperately trying to find out if there will be a VR mode so if anybody knows... that would be good!



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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    Wow that slipped under the radar !!!
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator

    Yeah... I just happened to be looking for... I can't remember what I was looking for now, this just erased everything else.

    Microsoft are referring to this as Flight Simulator for PC so if anyone's worried about the Xbox thing, it's ok!

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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator
    Incidentally @Techy111 if this does have VR, it would probably be the program that would tempt me to get a Reverb. I'd keep the Rift for everything else, but FS + Reverb would be quite a combination.
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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,127 Valuable Player
    Given Microsoft's current commitment to WMR it would be crazy if they did not support this for VR imho.  The video says it's planned to be released in 2020 so we are all going to have a bit of waiting time, lol!

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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator
    I was thinking the same thing @TomCgcmfc Microsoft is more likelely to include VR support than some others in a title like this, so personally I put the odds at greater than 50%. And I feel the same way as you @dburne,  VR has put an end to all monitor simming for me, although this is one title that would tempt me to buy regardless.

    If it didn't have VR, I don't know... maybe I'd have to get 3 decent monitors to at least partly bridge the gap.
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  • EvileyesEvileyes Posts: 354
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    2020 release huh? we can expect a insane experience then :)  Those old school MS sims for the time were cutting edge. Instant buy from me too if VR is fully supported.
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  • forestguyforestguy Posts: 167
    Art3mis
    edited June 2019
    Yes the other VR supported titles like Prepar3D and XPlane are only playing catch up, it wasn't built from the ground up, and currently do not use Vulcan (although XPlane will be implementing this soon). However, Aerofly 2 (which has Vulkan) has a decent VR implementation and looks and feels suburb on my HP Reverb.
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    Not forgetting the wonderfully superb Flyinside Flight sim ;) built for VR
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • forestguyforestguy Posts: 167
    Art3mis
    Techy111 said:
    Not forgetting the wonderfully superb Flyinside Flight sim ;) built for VR
      Oh yes, that is true :)
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,127 Valuable Player
    edited June 2019
    Techy111 said:
    Of course that's not a shameless plug because I work with them ;)
    You should be proud of this,  Flyinside flight simulator has got lots of potential imho.

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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    You should see what is soon to be released mate it makes the old scenery look from the 90's
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,127 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    You should see what is soon to be released mate it makes the old scenery look from the 90's
    Looking forward to this mate!

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  • lensmandavelensmandave Posts: 346
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    Techy111 said:
    Sneak peak =


    Ah nice! the lighting looks great too :)
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator

    Techy & I were briefly discussing the likelihood of Microsoft adopting a subscription service for the scenery and aircraft elements of their new Flight Simulator, which would tie in with the Xbox references on the reveal video. It seems to be the direction that MS (with it's xCloud) and Sony are moving in, following on from Google's Stadia.

    I'm curious what you guys think of that if it does happen???

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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    I just wonder if the customisation will be there like previous MSFS products or will they go down the really bad idea of high price DLC which did FSW in. My hope's are not. Will it be an open platform for addon freeware like FSX ? We shall have to wait and see.
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • JediNizarJediNizar Posts: 23
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    edited June 2019
    My question would be, is the simulation more like FSX or more realistic like FS9. I remember back than sitting in front of my desktop for a non stop flight FRA-JFK around 8hrs. and my sister just came in rolling her eyes "you are nuts"
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    Yes us life time simmers can look a bit strange at times but I do love my immersion ;)
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • sraurasraura Posts: 590
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    ...in before Microsoft publishes "Air Crash Investigations simulator 1.0"
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator
    Techy111 said:
    I just wonder if the customisation will be there like previous MSFS products or will they go down the really bad idea of high price DLC which did FSW in. My hope's are not. Will it be an open platform for addon freeware like FSX ? We shall have to wait and see.

    I forgot about FSW. I never looked into that as I already had a pretty bad taste in my mouth from Dovetail's train sim pricing model for DLC, plus I had P3D at that point.

    I enjoyed Microsoft's Flight although a lot of people claimed the flight models were unrealistic. I'm not sure about whether that's true, or if it was, whether that was down to the program's capabilities or the individual aircraft models. But then I tend to find low frame rates contribute more to unrealistic flight than anything else, which Flight had dealt with as it was MS's first sim with proper 64bit code and much better use of multithreaded CPUs.

    The DLC was very slow in coming though and the aircraft DLC was useless. Unbelievably only the 'Deluxe' aircraft had interior cockpits! But yeah I think they were keeping DLC in-house so that was probably a big contribution to the problem.

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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator

    Some statements added to Microsoft's website...

    'On behalf of the entire Microsoft Flight Simulator team, we humbly and deeply express our gratitude for such an overwhelmingly positive response to our announce trailer! We recognize that without people like you, we don’t get to make experiences like this that span more than 35 years and maintain such a passionate following. Thank you for being patient enough to weather the turbulence caused by some of our previous missteps. Thank you for being willing to look to the possibilities of the future while asking us to be accountable for the past. We hear you, we value you, we want to make the next generation of Microsoft Flight Simulator for you, with you.

    1. We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR.
    2. Designed for PC, optimized for multiplatform support (e.g. Xbox).
    3. Yes. We are supporting 3rd Party Content Development and Community Content creation. We are aware of the concerns in the current eco-system and are working to address them.
    4. Yes. We genuinely want to work closely with the community in the development of this title.
    5. Accessibility is important to us. Whatever your abilities are, if you want to fly, we are going to do whatever we can to make that happen. Yoke and pedals, mouse and keyboard, controller, etc. No pilot should be left behind.'
    So good news on learning the lessons from Flight and about 3rd party involvement. Just hoping to hear something about VR inclusion.
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    Cheers DnD some interesting reading.
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • msm903msm903 Posts: 106
    Art3mis

    My coworker shared this video with me. Interesting... he poster did ask the devs about VR, it was no at launch. 25 mins and 8 seconds into the video



  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,507 Valuable Player
    Bummer...
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  • lensmandavelensmandave Posts: 346
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    Crackers :(
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,705 Volunteer Moderator

    Thanks for posting that @msm106 amazing video and a lot of information, I think I need to subscribe to frooglesim!

    Not surprising 'no VR at launch' is the line they're taking, but like he said, hopefully it'll come. It seems such a great improvement over current civilian simulation that I can't stop being excited about this regardless.

    Worse case is I have to consider getting triple monitor and a PC upgrade to compensate for no VR.

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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,153 Valuable Player
    It looks beautiful and I love the little history of the series at the start of the vid.
    I will be waiting either for official support or for fly inside to get it into vr
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