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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Not sure I've seen many shots of the real box and packing, but the mailman just delivered this - and the wife is still in a good mood - said something like "you knew that package would arrive today, right?"  :) Spidey just to show the scale, weight on the package 7.83 kg (17.26 lbs) - it's heavy - package looks in perfect shape, no sign of any damage:




    Not sure if I should open it - right now everything is perfect, not sure that'll continue when I try the controllers ;) Maybe I've got another Schrödinger's cat in my hands, quite hard to pick the perfect time to open the box to see if it's alive or dead, lol. 

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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    Just open the damn thing. It's your B'day which means you get to do what you want to do. Isn't that the whole point? Kids go play outside (make sure they have sunscreen today). Wife, help me unpack.

    Sorted.


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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Just open the damn thing. It's your B'day which means you get to do what you want to do. Isn't that the whole point? Kids go play outside (make sure they have sunscreen today). Wife, help me unpack.

    Sorted.
    I'll try to get it set up later today, but probably it won't be before the evening - a few guests are coming over - have to get food ready etc. so kids aren't the main problem today ;)
     
    BTW, this is a slightly delicate situation - she just noticed the giant box, realized it wasn't a comic book and wasn't exactly pleased (VR isn't very social in her mind). I'm so happy I got the package today - getting it tomorrow (her birthday) I may have felt like Donald Duck meeting the gorilla  :#:D
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Happy Birthday Runes. Is it here yet? 😀
    Thanks - just saw your post - it's here - but I'm taking it slow - each base station must be perfectly angled, just getting that right may take me hours  B) And it's hard to perform this kind of surgery today and tomorrow. Maybe I should call some of my wife's friends and invite them over tomorrow so she'll be occupied  >:) 
    Single dudes have no idea how easy their lives are  ;) 
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    Damn, if your wife ever reads this thread Rune you're in big trouble.


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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Damn, if your wife ever reads this thread Rune you're in big trouble.

    I know, but not compared to her reading my journal at Collectors' Society, lol
    I'm alone with the kids next week that's when I've planned to focus more on the Index. It took me months to get everything perfect with the CV1, having to evaluate Index in just 14 days already starts to feel slightly stressful. My primary concern is simply to set up and check if the hardware is working correctly - second concern is evaluating if SteamVR games and apps experiences are improved compared to CV1 (res 200% = ss 2.0). Third concern will be Revive etc. 
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  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,274 Valuable Player
    No rush, just a first impression would be good at some point. 
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    2017:


    2019:


    Seems like everything's there ;)
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Including that rug... :D

    @Techy111 good one man. Yeh c'mon spill thee beans Rune. £1000 bux on yourself how much on the missus? And to put things in perspective for you. I bought the Microsoft Laptop 2 for just under a £1000 for my missus this year and took her to dinner at The Shard.

     :p 


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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:

    Seems like everything's there ;)
    Except there's another layer with more parts than the first!

    I'm still wondering what the heck Valve has in store for the passthrough/AR cameras. They still aren't activated, officially anyway. 
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Including that rug... :D

    @Techy111 good one man. Yeh c'mon spill thee beans Rune. £1000 bux on yourself how much on the missus? And to put things in perspective for you. I bought the Microsoft Laptop 2 for just under a £1000 for my missus this year and took her to dinner at The Shard.

     :p 
    In my case, I gave her nothing. We have split finances for personal spending. She spends hers how she wants and I spend mine.

    I'm actually kind of in the doghouse for selling it though as she loved it. I told her to use her own money to buy one as I couldn't pass up the profit.  :D


  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Including that rug... :D

    @Techy111 good one man. Yeh c'mon spill thee beans Rune. £1000 bux on yourself how much on the missus? And to put things in perspective for you. I bought the Microsoft Laptop 2 for just under a £1000 for my missus this year and took her to dinner at The Shard.

     :p 
    It's a hand-woven Persian carpet, but yeah it's a matter of taste, guess I've gotten used to it ;) You'd love the Hulk-green couch with Galactus-colored cushions too, lol. 

    The wife just got her cruise - price more than 5 Indices (Index plural = Indices according to Gabe) for 8 days, must be enough. Also means that the Index only costs 1½ days at sea, lol. BTW, the ship is the 6th largest cruise ship ever built (nearly 6,000 passenger as the max) - and it has the largest screen ever made for a ship - 5200 sq feet dome LED - and they used CV1 to design it: 




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  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,274 Valuable Player
    So you didn't go on the cruise as well then  :D

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    So you didn't go on the cruise as well then  :D

    Yup, but it was her idea - "happy wife, happy life"  ;) Also building a new raised brick terrace for the house, her idea too, soon I'll need more than the Index!
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Well you're in good stead then. My missus cruise is later this year  :/ Anyhow I just got shipping info  excuse the poor pun. They use GLS is this the same as yours? From the Netherlands? Never-heard-of-em-lands before excuse the equally poor pun again.


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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Well you're in good stead then. My missus cruise is later this year  :/ Anyhow I just got shipping info  excuse the poor pun. They use GLS is this the same as yours? From the Netherlands? Never-heard-of-em-lands before excuse the equally poor pun again.
    Looks like the same - GLS isn't my favorite, I prefer FedEx or UPS, but GLS was very fast this time and handled the package perfectly, probably no need to worry. My package shipped from the Netherlands, so did the CV1 in 2017, I have no idea why Oculus and Valve both ship from the Netherlands.   
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    edited July 2019
    Probably quite central for the rest of Western Europe and ports to the UK.


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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Last Index porn for today - showing fingerprint-free virgin hardware, before I touched anything  ;) Taken with the S10+ camera, click to enlarge. 




    Base stations are bigger/wider than I expected, Spidey illustrates scale:







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  • EvileyesEvileyes Posts: 351
    Trinity
    Yesterday I took the day off, and was playing Skyrim VR all day in my index running at 120hz, and I must say I was in awe multiple times just looking around this world, INSANE!!!! However. (one of the best VR experiences ive had to date)

    I hope this is some kind of temporary issue but, my FUCKING eye site is jacked up, as I wright this I see the text with ghost text slightly above it. I thought it was sleep in my eyes so I went into the bathroom splashed my eyes a ton of times, used eye drops etc.. and I still see ghost text above all my text. And im tripping HARD. My eye sight has been perfect my whole life, and I have to assume the long session of the index did this to me. (ive spent countless hours in the Vive Pro, no issues EVER) Please anyone else experience this issue I'm facing?  I'm hoping this will subside.
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,735 Volunteer Moderator
    Mate you may need an eye test to rule anything out. Asap. Stop VR'ing for now until you have had a test and mention VR to the Optician ok?
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,020 Valuable Player
    Well I get SDE retina burn-in sometimes especially noticeable when blinking. It passes. There's a thread about this somewhere.


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  • EvileyesEvileyes Posts: 351
    Trinity
    Yes, im going to lay low for a bit, this is freaking me out. Going to wait a few days to see if this clears up. I hope no permanent damage is done. I will lose my shit for sure.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Evileyes said:
    Yesterday I took the day off, and was playing Skyrim VR all day in my index running at 120hz, and I must say I was in awe multiple times just looking around this world, INSANE!!!! However. (one of the best VR experiences ive had to date)

    I hope this is some kind of temporary issue but, my FUCKING eye site is jacked up, as I wright this I see the text with ghost text slightly above it. I thought it was sleep in my eyes so I went into the bathroom splashed my eyes a ton of times, used eye drops etc.. and I still see ghost text above all my text. And im tripping HARD. My eye sight has been perfect my whole life, and I have to assume the long session of the index did this to me. (ive spent countless hours in the Vive Pro, no issues EVER) Please anyone else experience this issue I'm facing?  I'm hoping this will subside.

    Sounds strange, haven't seen this described on Reddit, currently even blue light eye damage doesn't seem to have much evidence to support that theory - and I think brightness is higher on the OLED screens, like:

    Luminance in nits:

    • Index: 95

    • Vive Pro: 143

    • Vive: 214

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/c0nziw/index_brightness_blackpoint_and_gamut_measurements/

    I'd recommend seeing a doctor if the eye problem just occurred and hasn't gone away, there may be many different causes behind such symptoms. 
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,567 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    Mate you may need an eye test to rule anything out. Asap. Stop VR'ing for now until you have had a test and mention VR to the Optician ok?
    Fully agree, get it checked immediately if the symptoms persist.
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