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Display Port to HDMI adapter - why should I need to buy adapters! WHERE IS THE HDMI connector

thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
NerveGear
edited June 21 in Oculus Rift S and Rift
Oculus wanted to make the Rift S easier to setup for users yet they fail to provide a way to to make the most basic of connections. My Asus laptop only has an HDMI output, meaning that I cannot connect my Rift S without need an adapter. They include a Display Port to Mini DP adapter, but nothing for users that NEED to connect to HDMI. This is not making the user experience better. I cannot believe that such a basic requirement has not been thought through and provided for.

I went though all this setup nonsense with the original Rift (USB ports not good enough, plus needing DP adapters for my desktop). Now it starts all over again...
Very, very disappointing that straight out of the box I'm sat here needing adapters and unable to use it. GRRRRR

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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,089 Valuable Player
    Seems you bought a HMD without checking what kind of output the Rift-S needs. That simply cannot be Oculus' problem, right?  ;)
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    When they make a huge deal of wanting to make the setup process easy and bring VR to the masses - but then fail to provide the most widely used connection that's prevalent on almost every machine that exists. They have clearly overlooked the basics. Would I have still bought it? Yes. Will I fix it? Yes.
    Not the point though, they have failed their own mission statement.
  • LZoltowskiLZoltowski Posts: 6,774 Volunteer Moderator
    Are there even high bandwidth DP to HDMI converters? The DP and HDMI signals are completely different so you would need an active converter. 
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    Not sure but I will update the post once i do in case it helps anyone else :/
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,371 Volunteer Moderator
    HDMI to DisplayPort Adapter Converter,4K@30Hz,Active HDMI to DP Female Adaptor Lead with Audio,Not Bidirectional,HDMI Source In Display Port Out Adaptador for XBOX One,NS,Mac,PC to Monitor,1080P@60Hz https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07G796JF8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nvDdDb7DR12MD
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  • AlexAtkinUKAlexAtkinUK Posts: 33
    Brain Burst
    edited June 22
    I wouldn't hold your breath: https://support.oculus.com/703013856799593/

    I assumed they used DisplayPort this time because there are more GPUs that can support the resolution and frame rate over DisplayPort than HDMI.  I believe DP is more reliable at long cable lengths than HDMI at higher bandwidths.

  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,371 Volunteer Moderator
    HDMI Connection with Third-party Adapter: Currently, there are no known adapters that will work from HDMI → DP. If this changes, we'll update this article to include any supported adapters. Until then, we don't recommend trying to use Rift S with any PC or laptop that does not have a DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort

    Good spot.
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    edited June 22
    To be fair, they also said do not use adapters for the original Rift - but they worked just fine in my experience - I guess the point is if they don't recommend it, they are not held responsible.

    I've found this from Scan.co.uk:

    It supports the higher res and also a high refresh rate - 1920 x 1080 @ 120 Hz [down to 30 Hz @ 4096x2160 ] so hopefully somewhere in between at the Rift res (2560x1440 80hz). Will post back when I've tried it (Monday).

    Still think they should include one with the Rift!!




  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,371 Volunteer Moderator
    Let us know how it goes mate
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    Okay - the DisplayPort to HDMI adapter do not work. 'Thunderbolt 3' might work apparently if you're lucky enough to have one - see the excellent information below if you're having the same issue.


    I can't stress enough how bad this is - there are lots of people out there who have purchased "VR Ready" laptops in the last year or two, only to have the rug pulled from under them. I have a £2000 Asus Rog that I bought for VR within the last 12 months that is now effectively out of date :# I'm so upset with Oculus, they have just undermined the very people that have invested and supported VR. I understand that for the technology to move forward it has to change, but you would expect it to do so in a way that includes, rather than excludes - at a pace that does not burn everyone. This is especially so when as I have already pointed out - their mission statement was to make VR more accessible! Okay, rant over...


  • donnyjoedonnyjoe Posts: 20
    NerveGear
    I'm glad they switched to DP. My GPU only has one HDMI output and it was getting annoying always swapping it between my TV and RIft. Now I can use another one of those 3 DP outputs.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 2,597 Valuable Player
    I think most if not all VR headset developers have switched or are switching to Display Port for the headset.
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  • rVRclosetrVRcloset Posts: 364
    Trinity
    Okay - the DisplayPort to HDMI adapter do not work. 'Thunderbolt 3' might work apparently if you're lucky enough to have one - see the excellent information below if you're having the same issue.


    I can't stress enough how bad this is - there are lots of people out there who have purchased "VR Ready" laptops in the last year or two, only to have the rug pulled from under them. I have a £2000 Asus Rog that I bought for VR within the last 12 months that is now effectively out of date :# I'm so upset with Oculus, they have just undermined the very people that have invested and supported VR. I understand that for the technology to move forward it has to change, but you would expect it to do so in a way that includes, rather than excludes - at a pace that does not burn everyone. This is especially so when as I have already pointed out - their mission statement was to make VR more accessible! Okay, rant over...


    Can't you use the converter they send with the Rift S?
    My two last laptops, going back 5 years, (Rog) works with that converter.
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    rVRcloset said:
    Can't you use the converter they send with the Rift S?
    My two last laptops, going back 5 years, (Rog) works with that converter.
    Sadly not, that's the whole problem right there as It only has HDMI, no mini DP (so the adapter is no use to me).
    It does have a thunderbolt 3 - this is my next attempt (waiting for yet another adapter) but I don't hold much hope with this.



  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    I used my HMDI>DP for my Monitor instead when using CV1 and did same again with RIFT S until I just removed it then used both into DP. It was the 4*2k type and it made no difference at all to performance. It does save your GPU Pins though if moving it about e.g. between headsets.
  • MowTinMowTin Posts: 1,621
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    donnyjoe said:
    I'm glad they switched to DP. My GPU only has one HDMI output and it was getting annoying always swapping it between my TV and RIft. Now I can use another one of those 3 DP outputs.
    Display port / HDMI adapters work fine for TV's. I have a 4K TV plugged in using an active adapter designed for 4k @ 60fps. 
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  • thumbs_of_doomthumbs_of_doom Posts: 12
    NerveGear
    Okay, the 'Thunderbolt 3' connection works in case anyone else needs it.

    I bought the following adapter for £13, which works a treat.



  • diosfedediosfede Posts: 3
    NerveGear

    I happened the same, buy the S oculus while I was traveling, not knowing that they are not compatible with HDMI 2.0. Buy an HDMI 2.0 converter to DP 1.2, 4k. I get it to send a resolution of 2560 x 1440 80 Hz, but I only get sound, without an image. I contacted with Oculus and his response was to buy another CPU. I have a Sansung Odyssey from less than 1 year ago that exceeds the recommended benefits. I think that Oculus should warn that it has no compatibility with the most used connector (HDMI 2.0). Which is more powerful than DP 1.2 and quite similar to 1.4. I do not have to know those things, I dedicate myself to buying what until recently I thought was a reliable company.
  • Norway74Norway74 Posts: 2
    NerveGear
    So is the “thunderbolt 3” the best way to solve this ? I’m in the exact same position a HP Pavillion 15, 4 months old but can’t connect 😩
  • paralegal37paralegal37 Posts: 1
    NerveGear
    RuneSR2 said:
    Seems you bought a HMD without checking what kind of output the Rift-S needs. That simply cannot be Oculus' problem, right?  ;)
    You are wrong. I bought an Omen computer that was advertised as "Oculus Ready" but now Oculus has wiped off nearly every laptop because many do not have the display port option. Oculus should have done their own marketing research before releasing Rift S and made sure that the computers which were "Oculus Ready" had some sort of adapter for the HDMI.
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