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YOUTUBE goes all Politically Correct to control it's Creators. Freedom removed!

MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
Wintermute
edited June 26 in Off-Topic
It's got so bad that even these highly popular Creators are complaining. It's becoming a failure. I've only tried once at a Channel and it too got blocked because all I did was create it with a 2nd Google Account which is a Ban! Same as happened to me on the Frontier Forum just to gain access to give help and get help in playing their game.
Facebook has come close to the same over-power of posts yet they do nothing about real threats!
It's all about jobs these people take to abuse their powers. If we have our freedom removed it brings forward an uprising by the people.
People needed YouTube and Facebook to make a Living and now it has become a mafia!


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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    You were banned from YouTube? That's not really a case showing how YouTube is doing something bad.

    Most of those people whining aren't exactly creating original material. And there are Flat Earthers complaining about being blocked by YouTube. Seems to me that YouTube is doing a much needed public service and finally cracking down on unoriginal garbage.

    I'm sure a few people will suffer in the process, but instead of whining they should head back to the drawing board and work on some original creative content.
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    I'm not banned but was blocked for a while and all that Channel was lost. I've watched to full clip and I'm quite concerned they are losing their income due to others they simply prefer for TV style viewing.
  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,565 Valuable Player
    Wheres that guy declairing everythings 1984 and the other guy saying everythings Mafia when we need them here.
    WAAAGH!
  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    Quite...I use it when sensing corruption but obviously the mafia cleaned up their act since the old gangster days of Tommy Guns. Now they are not actually related but are a family of Business's hell bent on shaping the market to be how they want it to be by any rules they set to keep things their way and keep their friends happy. Create a market they supply and force out the competition ;)
    Can you print me some Flyers while you're at it? :D
  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 725
    3Jane
    Sorry, I couldn't watch the whole video - after 2 minutes I was laughing so much I thought I might fall off my chair!
    'Content Creators' are suffering because they can't 'play nice' - likely they will head off to some other platform to deliver their 'content'  - until they are invited to leave...
    There is good content on youtube, it doesn't involve profanities, rants and generally oafish presentation, will I miss those presenters who are leaving?  Guess :)
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 4,524 Volunteer Moderator
    People needed YouTube and Facebook to make a Living and now it has become a mafia!

    Really? What did these poor souls do before YouTube came along? YouTube is not the town square, it’s a corporately owned platform, and they are well within their rights to set the rules that govern what content they host. In fact, they are required to, by the new laws being enacted to cover copyright infringement, hate speech, troll bots, etc.

    The internet is great in that it gives everybody a voice, but it’s also terrible in that it gives every idiot a megaphone to spread misinformation and stupidity. At some point, the company delivering the content has to take some responsibility for what they allow on their platform.

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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 6,732 Valuable Player
    Two YouTube channels SecureTeam10 and ThirdPhaseOfMoon that have UFO and alien-related content got demonetisation recently for no reason.

    I blame The Man for this. Thankfully a load of people, including my good self, took to Twitter to get that monetisation  back.

    The truth is out there. Trust no one.

    At the end of the day Google are going to suffer because of this because content creators are going to rival sites like Twitch and Storyfire.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    snowdog said:

    At the end of the day Google are going to suffer because of this because content creators are going to rival sites like Twitch and Storyfire.

    Not really. These are not actual content "creators" since they lack originality (imo). Content "copy cats" is more accurate.

    Large networks are starting to use YouTube and the quality is improving overall. Places like Twitch are good for people who want to simply take videos of themselves using other peoples created content.
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    Even YoungTurks (independent News) has had issues. Many have out of been attacked by competitors reporting on them out of spite and getting cut from their sole income for months to try and resolve with nobody responding to them. You get infringements from hearing music in the street or you say something you are not allowed to (OMFG!!). Good luck anyone in trying to keep a Channel running as it simply all goes to the most favoured by YT for their own business plan.
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    You get infringements from hearing music in the street or you say something you are not allowed to (OMFG!!).
    This is only a problem if someone tries to "monetize" from playing music on the streets. You don't really understand how any of this works, huh? lol
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 4,784 Valuable Player
    edited June 27

    We pay for all the content on YouTube, every bit of it. Every time we buy products that advertise on these channels, a percentage of what we pay funds the channels through the companies advertising budget. Whether we watch the channels of not, we fund them every time we buy stuff.

    So I get annoyed when I see so many channels influencing the young the over-self-obsessed, the scientifically lacking... the vulnerable. Because I'm paying for it. There isn't enough control from YouTube.

    Plus I'd like to see labels on products that don't advertise on YouTube so I can choose those. Then if YouTube revenue tails off, influencers can still do YouTube stuff in their free time but they'll have to do something productive for the main job.

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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    It's over reactions to job's worths. When it had nothing to do with the music but they obviously make money from the info the clip was for...e.g. a Blog on What's happening to the Beach Renevation (tries to avoid any music in the background else they get penalised)
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    edited June 27
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    It's over reactions to job's worths. When it had nothing to do with the music but they obviously make money from the info the clip was for...e.g. a Blog on What's happening to the Beach Renevation (tries to avoid any music in the background else they get penalised)

    Poor excuse. People who lack originality want to make money off other people's creations. I'm glad YouTube is preventing this type of societal leaching. It was happening for too long.
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,113 Volunteer Moderator
    vannagirl said:
    Dearest Oculus Modsquad

    never ban this Señor, the posts are just too great
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited June 27
    Be normal  Zen.
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 6,732 Valuable Player
    Well the UFO related channels won't get demonetisation on my watch. Someone has to make a stand.

    They're here.

    They've been here for quite some time.

    Keep your eyes and ears open. It could be your next door neighbour. The girl at the checkout at the supermarket. Any number of celebrities and politicians.

    We've probably got them right here on these forums.

    Be vigilant.

    They're here.

    Right now.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    @snowdog the UFO channels are fun, I watch them too! But these people are sharing videos taken "by others." That is the overall problem with monetization.

    And that's all we're talking about here: making money. People are only leaving YouTube because YouTube won't let them make money by leaching off other people's content.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 6,732 Valuable Player
    Yup, but they have the permission from those people to do so. I can't see why they can't make a few quid doing so.

    The governments of the world are doing their best to shut them down.

    NOT. ON. MY. FUCKING. WATCH.

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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    snowdog said:
    Yup, but they have the permission from those people to do so.

    Can you provide an example of this? The permission would need to specify "commercial use." I would like to see some examples of this on YouTube, where commercial use permission was explicitly given.
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  • LameDuckWarriorLameDuckWarrior Posts: 19
    NerveGear
    I too could not make it past the 3 minute mark of a 28 MINUTE VIDEO of mashed together you tube sucks rant with no point whatsoever.

    Maybe I can help with anyone who is of the impression that your freedom of speech has any power within a private company\establishment, IT DOESNT.

    Lastly, what is a post like this doing on OUR oculus forum?>
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    I too could not make it past the 3 minute mark of a 28 MINUTE VIDEO of mashed together you tube sucks rant with no point whatsoever.

    Yeah, the video is cringeworthy. I made it far enough to see the Flat Earth people crying about not making money. I had already seen this video prior to this thread. This was my comment on the video itself:




    Maybe I can help with anyone who is of the impression that your freedom of speech has any power within a private company\establishment, IT DOESNT.


    Yep. This forum has a history of people arguing about freedom of speech without having the slightest clue what it really entails. Most people just take it at face value, and assume that it means you can violate everyone else's rights to property and privacy lol


    Lastly, what is a post like this doing on OUR oculus forum?>

    Yeah, it's a crap post.
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    It's crap demonetization happens to people that can not get any explanation for it and just get caught up in all the gun-ho style of getting a job. I've heard far too many complaints towards them from Creators that did not intervene any rules whatsoever.
  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited June 27
    Example...
    "Bonjour, this is Piper! And as you know, not all YouTubers are preferred, Creators. So, some of us depend entirely on the support of our fans to make more awesome videos on YouTube. In exchange, for your generosity, you get access to the most special of gifts... it's all in this video! "

  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    The term "demonetization" is hilarious. The truth is that these people are trying to make money off of other people's content, and YouTube isn't letting them use YouTube's money platform to do it. They call it "demonetization" but really... it's just people who suck at their job and not getting paid because of it.

    When someone gets fired for being incompetent, that is also "demonetization." This video and thread is trying to advocate sympathy for the incompetent.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    Example...
    "Bonjour, this is Piper!

    Piper wants YouTube to let her use YouTube's money platform so that she can get paid for showing her nipples on-screen. YouTube did the right thing here. She belongs on PornHub.
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  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    edited June 27
    Example2...receiving constant attacks from YouTube Employees and Patreon!
    "I'm a DIY and Tech enthusiast from Shenzhen, China. Check out my channel- I've got a lot of cool and unique videos!"



  • MAC_MAN86MAC_MAN86 Posts: 2,262
    Wintermute
    Adults exist dude.
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 14,090 Valuable Player
    edited June 27
    MAC_MAN86 said:
    Adults exist dude.

    Intellectual Adults exist too dude.

    You are posting videos of people who may be adult "in age" but are clearly children "in the mind."

    Your examples are monotonous. They are examples of people who belong on something like PornHub. The reason that they want to be on YouTube is because YouTube's platform has over 1-billion Users, and these bottom-feeders are trying to make money off of that success.
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