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When Will HTC Ever Learn..?

Anonymous
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Argos are selling the HTC Vive Cosmos for 700 quid:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1478655

So the Rift S is going to be 300 quid cheaper and the Valve Index only 220 quid more expensive.

No surprise tbh, the company has been run by idiots for quite some time now.
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Luciferous
Consultant
True but we don't know the specs yet. It has a higher resolution than the Index and an extra camera than the Rift S but I think that is all we know.

HP Reverb is selling well for £600 and it has wonky controllers.

kevinw729
Honored Visionary
Sorry @snowdog  - but the same way you said that HTC would be gone last year, the same way that you said the HTC Vive would never sell or the HTC Vive Pro at their respective price points - I think you have to kinda face it, that though HTC's business strategy is full of holes, they still seem to have managed to survive.

I am the last one on the planet to defend them, but they have found a business position that works for them, and they seem to be doubling down on it. That injection of Google funding making all the difference. They have invested heavy in supporting Enterprise (though they have burnt some bridges). Now we see Cosmos offering a alternative to the Index - with some interesting new "tethered" features.

Now we wait and see if OculusVR will work with Lenovo on a Rift-S+ concept to address the issues, or if they feel that being the cheap PC option in a undefined market is a business winner - or if focusing 100% on Quest (Standalone) will be the smart play as most feel they will.

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Anonymous
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I was right about the Vive and the Vive Pro too, the Steam Survey every month says so. B)

Techy111
MVP
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snowdog said:

Argos are selling the HTC Vive Cosmos for 700 quid:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1478655

So the Rift S is going to be 300 quid cheaper and the Valve Index only 220 quid more expensive.

No surprise tbh, the company has been run by idiots for quite some time now.



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A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

Luciferous
Consultant
They must of launched it too early, it was there an hour ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190801203710/https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1478655

Techy111
MVP
MVP
Ahhh found it 😉

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A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

Zenbane
MVP
MVP
I think that when it comes to HTC, you are spot on @snowdog

The only reason HTC survived this long is because of the Google buyout. That proves their faulty business model. Especially when we observe the multiple years of consecutive financial loss. No one can claim that HTC's business model works when they suffered that much financial ruin and managed to stick around only after selling some of their most valued IP.

That's like saying that you are good at driving after you crash all your cars but continue riding a bicycle that a friend donated to you.

Anonymous
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snowdog said:

I was right about the Vive and the Vive Pro too, the Steam Survey every month says so. B)


Are you expecting HTC to sell at cost just because Facebook can? Take Facebook out of the equation and Oculus would have to ramp up prices too pay its employees a wage. No ones getting rich off Oculus, they are getting rich off FB which is why most departments are now under the FB umbrella. 



I'm not expecting them to sell at cost, I just disagree with their price gouging. Same with Valve too.

Anonymous
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snowdog said:

Argos are selling the HTC Vive Cosmos for 700 quid:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1478655

So the Rift S is going to be 300 quid cheaper and the Valve Index only 220 quid more expensive.

No surprise tbh, the company has been run by idiots for quite some time now.



An extra camera, larger resolution screen, earphones, and an actual mechanical IPD adjustment do mean a higher price. And as OculusHomie points out, Oculus/Facebook are selling at a loss just to push the headset to as many people as possible. Does that mean the Cosmos is worth $365 more than the Rift-S? Not sure...but the mechanical IPD adjustment was too much for Oculus to put in the Rift-S and still keep it at $399. The Cosmos also flips up...that's an added cost in parts and production.