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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    Okay, so I recruited a couple frigates for my fleet, for about 1.8 million each. I'll have to remember to get them out on a mission when I get back to my home system. I also looked at buying a new freighter to replace mine (B-17) but I didn't find a better one.
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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    Ooo I never thought abought whether my freighter was any good. Maybe I should buy a better one before investing too much in my current one. Am off work today my main goal is to find a new starship. I have a rule that I won't buy one. Barn finds all the way for me.
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  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 1,191
    Wintermute
    edited September 2019
    sorry - quote by accident!
    When you have followed the tutorial far enough you will 'rescue' a Freighter that is being attacked and be offered it for free, it is random in class/slots so you may be offered 'nice' or 'tat' (and maybe even a Frigate or 2 to go with it) but at least it gets you on the ladder.  Getting your hand on a mix of Frigates will allow you to send them out on missions too, adding more credits and materials/rares to your collection.
    I have bases on a few planets, in the main they are 'just enough' in size to be uploaded - one day I'll find a place to build something nice, but the exploring is my main interest currently.
    @bigmike20vt -  Wish you luck and fun today, find nice stuff!
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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    So I was in the Nexus and someone randomly gave me 3 items worth 75 million credits. I am sure they were being kind but actually it removes the fun from the game. As such I need to blow the money and fast. Rather than getting nothing from it at all I was wondering how is the best way to find the absolute best freighter in the game? Mine is worth 12 million credits but i have read there are far larger ones out there. Is there a way I can find such a beast and just blow my money on buying it?

    I don't want to spend on starships or personal weapons as I would like to get hold of ruined ones of those and fix them up myself.

    Thanks

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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    I'm not sure if there's an easy way to tell the class of a freighter from space (like you can do with starships by scanning them with your analysis visor when you're on foot). I've been landing in the freighters, then going up to see the captain, where you can offer to buy it and compare it to your own. Running back and forth from the docking bay to the bridge gets old pretty fast, so after checking out a few, I got tired of it.

    I guess if you wanted to unload that excess cash, you could just keep buying every freighter you check out, since you tend to lose millions per transaction, even when trading relatively equal-value ships.
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  • DTHDTH Posts: 272
    Nexus 6
    How do you manually save?  I read above somewhere that there is a tutorial I did find a guide how do I get to the tutorial? 
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    The whole early part of the game's main quest is basically the tutorial. You can autosave by exiting your ship, and you can manually save by interacting with the beacon poles found near most points of interest on planets, or by building a save beacon or save point module (the game teaches you how to craft those in the course of the early missions).
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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    edited September 2019
    ok so some tips which may help if not already here.
    decline your 1st freebie freighter.....the 2nd time you are offered one - which will be 6 hrs or so game time later - it will be a large one as opposed to a medium one.

    If you want to make sure you get the best one in the game save before you jump into the system with the fight to save the freighter... (if you jump iin once and there is a fight, if you quit and go back to save and jump in again , that fight will be there but the freighter will be different as it rolls the dice each time you jump into the system.

    the stronger the economy the greater chance of getting the S class mega freighers...  or so i have read.. i just took the 1st one i was offered and am not starting again!.

    i found my 1st barn find, (salvageable ship)

    only snag is it is a bit rubbish!. barely better than what i have.
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  • DTHDTH Posts: 272
    Nexus 6
    I started to see what looks like a white t-shirt and now it has turned red does this have anything to do with my health?
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    DTH said:
    I started to see what looks like a white t-shirt and now it has turned red does this have anything to do with my health?
    That's your inventory indicator. White with a horizontal line near the top is telling you that you're getting full, and red means that you have no more empty slots. I wondered what that was as well, until I tried to pick something up, couldn't, and put two and two together.
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  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    ok so some tips which may help if not already here.
    decline your 1st freebie freighter.....the 2nd time you are offered one - which will be 6 hrs or so game time later - it will be a large one as opposed to a medium one.

    If you want to make sure you get the best one in the game save before you jump into the system with the fight to save the freighter... (if you jump iin once and there is a fight, if you quit and go back to save and jump in again , that fight will be there but the freighter will be different as it rolls the dice each time you jump into the system.
    Good tip for the freighters.  When you mention the 1st freebie freighter, when does this get offered to you?  What's the point in the story line?
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    edited September 2019
    I wondered if the timing is a bit random, since it’s not specifically tied to a plot point in the quest. For me it was a little after reaching the anomaly—I was doing a lot of flying between planets/systems, and on one run, the freighter event popped up. 

    Edit: Looking back in this thread, I got my freighter around the same time I started the overseer base expansion quest (same play session). 
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  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    nalex66 said:
    I wondered if the timing is a bit random, since it’s not specifically tied to a plot point in the quest. For me it was a little after reaching the anomaly—I was doing a lot of flying between planets/systems, and on one run, the freighter event popped up. 

    Edit: Looking back in this thread, I got my freighter around the same time I started the overseer base expansion quest (same play session). 
    Nalex, did you try to cherry pick the freighter (i.e. - reload the save point)?   I have mixed feelings on what I would do in this case.  I'm determined to be successful in this game without using any exploits.  But if I were actually in a situation where I could get a few passes at a quality freighter I might just do it.  I don't know, we'll see.
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    edited September 2019
    nalex66 said:
    I wondered if the timing is a bit random, since it’s not specifically tied to a plot point in the quest. For me it was a little after reaching the anomaly—I was doing a lot of flying between planets/systems, and on one run, the freighter event popped up. 

    Edit: Looking back in this thread, I got my freighter around the same time I started the overseer base expansion quest (same play session). 
    Nalex, did you try to cherry pick the freighter (i.e. - reload the save point)?   I have mixed feelings on what I would do in this case.  I'm determined to be successful in this game without using any exploits.  But if I were actually in a situation where I could get a few passes at a quality freighter I might just do it.  I don't know, we'll see.
    For me I guess it would depend how you see NMS. If it is a "for ever game," ie one you plan to put 1000s of hrs in over 3 or 4 years I would not exploit at all. However if not then if you ever want the best ship you will have to do it. I did a Google and the best ships are 100s of millions.
    Whilst personally some things I do not want to exploit , given I also have elite dangerous personally I would make an exception on the freighter 
    Sadly I can't as it is too late for me. Am not starting again .

    Some random put 75 million in my inventory. I really wish they hadn't but at the same time I wish I HAD exploited the best freighter
    Edit
    The more i think about it the more i am tempted to start again. (I will exploit the Freighter to get the best one but wont have the stupid amounts of cash which makes everything trivial).. Either that or there is a save game editor. i must admit i am thinking of getting it, giving myself a capital ship and also taking away my money. On one hand i want to earn stuff myself, as it is how i enjoy the game, on the other hand i would like a good freighter but am not going to spend ages building a base on my current freighter and then lose it all if i ever come across a capital class one.

    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • A.ForceA.Force Posts: 94
    Hiro Protagonist
    Is there a way to remove structures you build? I know some devices like the refinery can be picked up again but i placed some random ass walls and floors before i understood how the system worked, can i scrap them and get the materials back somehow?

    Also, i found a drop pod and got a quest to upgrade my exosuit. But at the time i did not have antimatter so i had to leave it behind. I have antimatter now but i have no way to find it again (Tried flying above the general area for 10 minutes but it was impossible. These worlds are big). I still have the exosuit quest in my log but it seems i cannot finish it.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    edited September 2019
    A.Force said:
    Is there a way to remove structures you build? I know some devices like the refinery can be picked up again but i placed some random ass walls and floors before i understood how the system worked, can i scrap them and get the materials back somehow?

    Also, i found a drop pod and got a quest to upgrade my exosuit. But at the time i did not have antimatter so i had to leave it behind. I have antimatter now but i have no way to find it again (Tried flying above the general area for 10 minutes but it was impossible. These worlds are big). I still have the exosuit quest in my log but it seems i cannot finish it.
    If you highlight the exosuit quest in your log, does it give you a waypoint to find the drop pod again?

     My first drop pod, I dropped a save beacon so I didn’t lose it while I scrounged around for materials. If you don’t find it though, they’re not that uncommon. I’ve done at least half a dozen of them now. 

    Yes, you can scrap structures and get at least some materials back (I’m not sure if you get them all back or if you lose a bit). You hover over something in build mode, and when it’s sort of highlighted, you press A and then Right Trigger (look at the tool tips at the bottom of the menu). It would be nice to freely move stuff around after it’s been built; my base is all willy-nilly because I didn’t plan my layout at all. 

    nalex66 said:
    I wondered if the timing is a bit random, since it’s not specifically tied to a plot point in the quest. For me it was a little after reaching the anomaly—I was doing a lot of flying between planets/systems, and on one run, the freighter event popped up. 

    Edit: Looking back in this thread, I got my freighter around the same time I started the overseer base expansion quest (same play session). 
    Nalex, did you try to cherry pick the freighter (i.e. - reload the save point)?   I have mixed feelings on what I would do in this case.  I'm determined to be successful in this game without using any exploits.  But if I were actually in a situation where I could get a few passes at a quality freighter I might just do it.  I don't know, we'll see.
    I just took the freighter when it was offered. It’s a B-class, but only 17 slots. I haven’t done anything with it except build a mission control room so I could send my frigates out on jobs, so if I come across a better one, I won’t hesitate to trade it in (assuming I can afford the upgrade—my cash is a bit low since I hired those new frigates). 

    @bigmike20vt I believe there is a save editor, but I would worry that once you start down that path, it will make everything feel trivial in the same way that receiving that huge sum of money did. I’d rather dump the money on the biggest freighter you see (or a series of freighter trade-ins if that’s what it takes). If you gain the power to overrule RNGesus, you’ll never be happy with what the universe randomly offers up anymore. 
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  • RattyUKRattyUK Posts: 1,191
    Wintermute
    edited September 2019
    @bigmike20vt - one of the other things the save editor will do (if you don't want to actually 'modify' your save too much) is 'reroll' the 'seed' of any of your ships, giving you a different ship while retaining the same statistics, that way you could find a nice xx slot freighter which you cosmetically dislike and roll up 'new' ones (or pick a seed from t'internet) until you have one esthetically pleasing...

    @nalex66 - reasonably 'easy' credits can be earned by mining for Platinum in the asteroid belts, with the upgraded storage in Beyond it is much easier to haul loads!  I normally spend about half an hour mining Platinum (Gold & Silver are always a bonus) after each jump, it makes getting the millions needed for hiring/upgrading less of a chore and is good fun too.
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  • Star-lizardStar-lizard Posts: 347
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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    nalex66 said:
    @bigmike20vt I believe there is a save editor, but I would worry that once you start down that path, it will make everything feel trivial in the same way that receiving that huge sum of money did. I’d rather dump the money on the biggest freighter you see (or a series of freighter trade-ins if that’s what it takes). If you gain the power to overrule RNGesus, you’ll never be happy with what the universe randomly offers up anymore. 
    Generally i agree with you, if it is a game I plan on playing a lot there is no way i would want to cheat usually.

    I have no intention of breaking any game rules and the editor will be uninstalled once i have made the change.... however I dont have enough time to bother making more than 1 mobile base... base building is not really my thing so i will only do it once, so this will be a 1 stop shot to 1) replace my freighter with the Capital S class ship modeled off the imperial destroyer and 2) to reduce my money down to 2 million (i legitimately found some ancient tech which i sold for 1.9 million credits).
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • DTHDTH Posts: 272
    Nexus 6
    I just found out that I do not have any fuel for my portable refinery,  Too put it back I have to use TRS.   press the right thumbstick down does not do anything.  It there a chart for the Rift S that helps me figure out the letters.  I know what the L and R triggers are but what are the other two on the side called?  For all my tools in order for them to work, I need all their boxes marked right?
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    You press in the right stick to pick up the portable refinery. You have to hold it down for a second, like many of the button presses.
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  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    A.Force said:
    Is there a way to remove structures you build? I know some devices like the refinery can be picked up again but i placed some random ass walls and floors before i understood how the system worked, can i scrap them and get the materials back somehow?

    Also, i found a drop pod and got a quest to upgrade my exosuit. But at the time i did not have antimatter so i had to leave it behind. I have antimatter now but i have no way to find it again (Tried flying above the general area for 10 minutes but it was impossible. These worlds are big). I still have the exosuit quest in my log but it seems i cannot finish it.
    I just got my first exosuit upgrade when I happened upon a drop pod last night.  I didn't have all the materials with me to unlock it so I had to leave and obtain more.  I dropped a save beacon to mark the spot so I could return to it easily.
    I don't recall there being an actual mission added to my log for this so I don't know if missions put down a waypoint for you.
    I believe you can have 5 save beacons on any given planet.  Supposedly there is a way to color code the beacons so the markers appear differently but I haven't been able to do this successfully.
    After I upgraded the exosuit, I picked up the save beacon and will use it for another location if I need it.  These things are really useful.
  • DTHDTH Posts: 272
    Nexus 6
    Thanks, Rob for the tip.  I hope I do not need fuel for them and they are already built. :)
  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    nalex66 said:
    @bigmike20vt I believe there is a save editor, but I would worry that once you start down that path, it will make everything feel trivial in the same way that receiving that huge sum of money did. I’d rather dump the money on the biggest freighter you see (or a series of freighter trade-ins if that’s what it takes). If you gain the power to overrule RNGesus, you’ll never be happy with what the universe randomly offers up anymore. 
    Generally i agree with you, if it is a game I plan on playing a lot there is no way i would want to cheat usually.

    I have no intention of breaking any game rules and the editor will be uninstalled once i have made the change.... however I dont have enough time to bother making more than 1 mobile base... base building is not really my thing so i will only do it once, so this will be a 1 stop shot to 1) replace my freighter with the Capital S class ship modeled off the imperial destroyer and 2) to reduce my money down to 2 million (i legitimately found some ancient tech which i sold for 1.9 million credits).
    Thanks guys for your perspectives on this.  When I get to a freighter I think I'll just take whatever is offered.  I'm not gonna lie though, I really hope I get offered a good one.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    I believe you can have 5 save beacons on any given planet.  Supposedly there is a way to color code the beacons so the markers appear differently but I haven't been able to do this successfully.
    When you're in the build menu to put down the save beacon, you can go up one more menu level to the colour selection--I assume this is what colours the marker icon. Same with the base building pre-fabs, there are several colour schemes to choose from, if you go up one more menu level before placing it down.
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
    RattyUK said:
    ... reasonably 'easy' credits can be earned by mining for Platinum in the asteroid belts, with the upgraded storage in Beyond it is much easier to haul loads!  I normally spend about half an hour mining Platinum (Gold & Silver are always a bonus) after each jump, it makes getting the millions needed for hiring/upgrading less of a chore and is good fun too.
    I discovered tonight that I can spot the asteroids that contain platinum by their unique shapes. A few minutes of mining just outside my local space station and I had several hundred platinum to sell.

    I sent my frigates out on their first group mission, but it was a bust--all three had to be recalled early due to catastrophic damage. Now I've got to climb all over them repairing components. The first frigate only needed tritium for repairs, so that was no problem. The second needed pure ferrite, and I ran out half-way through, so now it's down to the planet to collect rocks. Not sure why the fleet commander has to do the monkey work, but whatever... I'll have to finish that tomorrow, then I think I should get back to the main quest.
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  • VRMageddon-1VRMageddon-1 Posts: 488
    Trinity
    Where do you buy this for the Rift or is it only Rift-S?  I don't see it in the Oculus store... or is it a Steam title?
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,343 Valuable Player
    steam only for now but it works fine....... it is not native support but you can use OpenComposite if you do not like steamVR.

    @nalex66 i think you were unlucky or did you send them off on a really hard mission?    I have done 4 so far, 3 were successes and 1 ended with my ship getting mullared and i needed 150 silver to fix.

    they are profitable however and worth sticking with. maybe stick with 1* difficulty for now?.
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,261 Volunteer Moderator
     i think you were unlucky or did you send them off on a really hard mission?    I have done 4 so far, 3 were successes and 1 ended with my ship getting mullared and i needed 150 silver to fix.

    they are profitable however and worth sticking with. maybe stick with 1* difficulty for now?.
    I’ve done a few 1* and 2* missions with my single original frigate. I thought, with two new higher level ones along, they could handle a 3* one, but nope. I guess I overestimated the new guys. 
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