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Will Medal of Honor VR - Be Oculus' Half Life Alyx moment?

kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
edited December 2019 in General

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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,542 Valuable Player
    edited December 2019
    I think Medal of Honor will be amazing. Oculus bringing a WW2 shooter to the platform is beyond awesome. 

    But WW2 is no competition against Alyx and it does not have to be. Both make VR stronger as a platform, and that's what counts.

    Thus I doubt that Medal of Honor will be a system seller like Alyx, but I do love (some) surprises.

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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,017 Valuable Player
    edited December 2019
    No chance. Whilst MOH has numerous fans, it's simply leagues behind the Call of Duty franchise.  No matter how well MOH VR turns out to be it's does not have the same draw as COD. A shame we're also going back to WWII which has been done-to-death over the years. I would have preferred a modern day MOH game rather than WWII.  Perhaps a proper Call of Duty VR game could raise some interest.

    What Oculus need to do in my opinion is get something like Resident Evil 8 VR as an exclusive. This would sell Oculus  VR headsets especially if they really went all in and disabled Revive compatibility on-the-sly.  I also believe once CP 2077 releases there will be a massive resurgence of interest in Cyberpunk themed games. There are a few cyberpunk VR offerings in the making but a bigger budget title from Oculus would generate much interest post the first half of 2020. Something of that nature if done right could get the juices flowing in a similar manner to HL Alyx. However, because Valve is Valve and Half Life 3 has been a running joke for aeons I don't think any VR game can match the current hype no matter what unless it was actually Half Life 3 VR.


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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
    This feels like a RockBandVR moment again - execs with no real knowledge of the market stick a pin in a map to find a IP they can use on their VR hardware, without doing the due-diligence on what would be the best content. But anyway, after see the great job nDream did with their shooter fingers are crossed. 
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    Which brings me to the question. Where is the Half Life mod that is supposed to being worked on? Can we safely say it isn't going to happen or not?
  • kojackkojack Posts: 5,984 Volunteer Moderator
    kevinw729 said:
    This feels like a RockBandVR moment again - execs with no real knowledge of the market stick a pin in a map to find a IP they can use on their VR hardware, without doing the due-diligence on what would be the best content. But anyway, after see the great job nDream did with their shooter fingers are crossed. 

    It's not quite that bad though, unless they start including an adapter to connect a MOH proprietary controller to a touch controller. :)

    Do any Medal Of Honor games actually involve getting a medal? It's been a LONG time since I've played a MOH game.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,058 Valuable Player
    Oh yea, I will be all over this one.
    Don

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  • JoeManji08JoeManji08 Posts: 160
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    edited December 2019
    kojack said:
    Do any Medal Of Honor games actually involve getting a medal? It's been a LONG time since I've played a MOH game.
    It's been a long time, but yes, I think so.  I remember playing Rising Sun on the Gamecube and being blown away by the Pearl Harbor level.  If they can capture that cinematic shooter feel in VR, they will have my money for sure.  

    Edit: Sorry I misread that as "Do any MOH games actually deserve a medal" lol.
  • zerocool1028zerocool1028 Posts: 41
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    Yeah storming Normandy is gonna gonna be pretty insane if executed well. I gotta start saving in the new year to build a pc for vr. I really want to play these games and other on pcvr.
  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,274 Valuable Player
    edited December 2019
    I loved MOH and played it way too much. I joined a clan and everything and had many a happy night in Stalingrad.

    Hopefully Omaha Beach is in there. The maps were brilliant. There is a MOH map for Stalingrad in Pavlov.
  • MowTinMowTin Posts: 1,859 Valuable Player
    From the bits I've learned about MOH, I'm not expecting much. I think it will be like a series of mini games. I don't think they're making the hardcore shooter that MOH is known for. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. 

    So far, only Asgard's Wrath has delivered a genuine AAA sized 40+ hour gaming experience. 
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
    MowTin said:
    From the bits I've learned about MOH, I'm not expecting much. I think it will be like a series of mini games. I don't think they're making the hardcore shooter that MOH is known for. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. 
    .....

    Yes, it would seem from the leaks that the path taken has changed from the original intention and rather than like HLA with a 40+ hour play environment, MOH will be a mini-game experiences, building off of the Vader Immortal scope.
    I am not sure how much of the change comes from the recent considerable departures seen from the dev team, or if this was the plan from the start and the operation was keeping this quiet till they felt best to reveal. The wounds are still pretty fresh after RockBandVR so I can understand that they feel a 30+ hour game environment is not for them.
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  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,274 Valuable Player
    Well most of us could have told them they would have a limited audience with RockBandVR. We are not the Wii crowd. Just bad research of the market.

    Bad news if it is another Vader, I only bought the first one as its just a limited short experience as good as it was.

  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,058 Valuable Player
    Well most of us could have told them they would have a limited audience with RockBandVR. We are not the Wii crowd. Just bad research of the market.

    Bad news if it is another Vader, I only bought the first one as its just a limited short experience as good as it was.

    I sure hope that is not the case, would be a big shame.
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
    Well most of us could have told them they would have a limited audience with RockBandVR. We are not the Wii crowd. Just bad research of the market.
    .....

    Seems "bad research" is a recurring situation with numerous of the management that passed through these doors.

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    ** New Book **
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,017 Valuable Player
    kevinw729 said:
    Well most of us could have told them they would have a limited audience with RockBandVR. We are not the Wii crowd. Just bad research of the market.
    .....

    Seems "bad research" is a recurring situation with numerous of the management that passed through these doors.

    This is actually a good point. I can't recall a moment in the last few years where a mass survey has been conducted specifically asking what sort of content VR users would like to see in VR. I know this would be unusual for pancake gaming but due to the nature of VR you would think an obvious way to gauge what people are interested in. I think what happens is we get projects the developers and those funding are fans of, not the other way round. Well, the onus is on them then if they fail. 


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  • JoeManji08JoeManji08 Posts: 160
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    MowTin said:
    From the bits I've learned about MOH, I'm not expecting much. I think it will be like a series of mini games. I don't think they're making the hardcore shooter that MOH is known for. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. 

    So far, only Asgard's Wrath has delivered a genuine AAA sized 40+ hour gaming experience. 
    Did you read something specific saying or suggesting that it would be a series of mini games?  Not trying to argue here -- just curious.  If that's what it turns out to be, I will be significantly less interested in the game.
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
    Shadowmask72 said:
    ....
    Well, the onus is on them then if they fail. 

    Sadly the "onus" is on the VR community - none of the original management are involved with the project, and those that remain blame those that have left the company for the failure, and take the blame for the successes. It was the concern some of us had at the beginning... while we stirred the pot!  B)
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    ** New Book **
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,542 Valuable Player
    I wonder if Lone Echo 2 could be much bigger than Medal of Honor, but Medal of Honor of course connects directly to the pancake horde. 

    To me Lone Echo 2 is the next big thing from Oculus. 

    Regarding the Story, nothing in VR has moved me more than Lone Echo. Maybe Alyx will, but I'm not sure. Of course Lone Echo 2 is a sequel, and for movies that might not be a good sign, still Aliens was awesome, lol.
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
    The issue with "big" sales is the penetration with the audience. Half Life is a title that resonates with a massive audience, while Lone Echo is a popular VR title, but its name penetration is restricted to the VR community. It was interesting to see how acquiring big IP was a recipe for  success, and now after HLA it seems to be more about market perception.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,542 Valuable Player
    Fully agree, and of course Medal of Honor may work like Alyx to some degree - compared to games like Stormland, Asgard's Wrath and Lone Echo that do not extend wellknown franchises.
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,973 Valuable Player
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    ** New Book **
    "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities"
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,058 Valuable Player
    Man I am so looking forward to this one!
    Don

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