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Acer Cancelled VR Headset Plans

kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,975 Valuable Player
According to RTVR:
....the company may be more broadly shifting priority away from VR
https://www.roadtovr.com/acer-conceptd-ojo-cancelled/

A real shame, after their involvement with OSVR, then StarVR and now the OjO and the mess that was their WinMR system - wow what a wild ride, lets hope their AR projects do better.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,558 Valuable Player
    Just read that article too, maybe they did not want to compete with Reverb for the probably very limited market for ultra high-res hmds... I'd like better res too, but not before new and much more powerful gpus arrive - or foveated rendering that really works by reducing gpu load.
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    edited February 12
    I think this could have competed well with the HP Reverb and I for one am pretty pished off it's being shelved. I'm still hoping HP will improve upon the HP Reverb with added camera's and a better cable. I was looking at this acer VR headset to replace my HP Reverb, but VR is just becoming one big nightmare after another with all these crappy announcements.

    Can we have some good news for VR to lighten the way soon? :D

    @RuneSR2 - 2k per eye on a Geforce 1080ti and 2080ti is fine.
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 1,734 Valuable Player
    edited February 12
    Well, another WMR headset hits the dust, what a surprise, lol! 

    https://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-mixed-reality-headsets

    Looks like the only new WMR headsets you can now buy are Samsung O+ and HP Reverb.  Samsung appears to be liquidating O+ stock by dropping their price down to $230 so they probably will not be in the WMR game for much longer.  Pretty doubtful that Microsoft is going to support HP on its own for long imho.

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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Well, another WMR headset hits the dust, what a surprise, lol! 

    https://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-mixed-reality-headsets

    Looks like the only new WMR headsets you can now buy are Samsung O+ and HP Reverb.  Samsung appears to be liquidating O+ stock by dropping their price down to $230 so they probably will not be in the WMR game for much longer.  Pretty doubtful that Microsoft is going to support HP on its own for long imho.

    Doesn't really matter if Microsoft supports it as long as Steam VR still supports it. I haven't purchased one thing from the Microsoft VR store. I also hear there are some big improvements to WMR in a coming update for Windows 10, so it's not even bad news from Microsoft just yet.
  • kojackkojack Posts: 5,990 Volunteer Moderator
    RedRizla said:

    Doesn't really matter if Microsoft supports it as long as Steam VR still supports it.
    Although SteamVR doesn't support WMR directly, it relies on the Microsoft support, the same as SteamVR uses the Oculus SDK to do Oculus support.

  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 1,734 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Well, another WMR headset hits the dust, what a surprise, lol! 

    https://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-mixed-reality-headsets

    Looks like the only new WMR headsets you can now buy are Samsung O+ and HP Reverb.  Samsung appears to be liquidating O+ stock by dropping their price down to $230 so they probably will not be in the WMR game for much longer.  Pretty doubtful that Microsoft is going to support HP on its own for long imho.

    Doesn't really matter if Microsoft supports it as long as Steam VR still supports it. I haven't purchased one thing from the Microsoft VR store. I also hear there are some big improvements to WMR in a coming update for Windows 10, so it's not even bad news from Microsoft just yet.
    Well, unfortunately WMR headsets do not run on SteamVR alone.  They need SteamVR for WMR plus WMR itself.

      Anyway, I'm just giving you Reverb guys a bit of stick so please don't take it to heart.  I'm sure your WMR headsets will be supported for a long time to come.  Cheers.

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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    So any idea's what the next Samsung VR headset is going to use? Maybe native Steam VR or something of their own making? Samsung is the next VR headset I have my eye on. I just hope it doesn't fail to deliver like the most of the others have this time around.
  • LuluViBritanniaLuluViBritannia Posts: 504
    Neo
    Actually, it's a good thing. A new-born market does not need to be fractured between so many competitors, especially when so many of them are just dipping their toes into it. In fact, it only hurt the market, because all those people who supported the bad competitors just threw money out in the void.
    The only ones who are serious about VR are Oculus, HTC and Valve. Anyone else can just get out of the fight.
    Current VR results imo:
    - Great small apps. Great ports of bigger games.
    - Great VR-specific features. Not enough showcased!!!
    - Too many actors in the industry, the market is totally broken.


    My hopes for VR next gen:

    - Better ratio between visual quality and power needs. No more godrays and less SDE.
    - Full Body Tracking.


    "If you don't mind, do you want me to take you there? Where dreams come true."
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 4,975 Valuable Player
    Actually, it's a good thing. A new-born market does not need to be fractured between so many competitors, especially when so many of them are just dipping their toes into it. 
    ....

    Totally agree, it was a major error of judgement to have purposefully created a fractured market with ecosystems and walled gardens. The original promise of a open-landscape sharing information was that element that sold Valve into sharing so much of their research and helping support the Kickstarter. Now we have to wait on normalcy to evolve and the market to return to a true level rather than an artificially tilted business model.

    ......
    The only ones who are serious about VR are Oculus, HTC and Valve. Anyone else can just get out of the fight.

    I have to disagree slightly - I think Sony and Samsung are serious. I could also go as far as to to add Varjo, VRgineers, Pimax, Deepon, 3Eyes and Lenovo to that list. I know some of those are Asian names you will not be familiar with, but just a glance at the Steam survey will show the importance of the Asian player base. 

     We have to face the facts that the "PC-Masterrace" mentality that overtook the hyperbole of the initial launch of this phase of VR, was badly handled and misguided. Building an ecosystem rather than growing a community was a lost opportunity, and its interesting to consider since the success of mobileVR back in 2016, it has taken this long to build on the next phase - with wasted time on infighting, private empires and bridge burning!
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,558 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    I think this could have competed well with the HP Reverb and I for one am pretty pished off it's being shelved. I'm still hoping HP will improve upon the HP Reverb with added camera's and a better cable. I was looking at this acer VR headset to replace my HP Reverb, but VR is just becoming one big nightmare after another with all these crappy announcements.

    Can we have some good news for VR to lighten the way soon? :D

    @RuneSR2 - 2k per eye on a Geforce 1080ti and 2080ti is fine.
    Have you tried reviving Stormland? ;)
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    edited February 13
    Actually, it's a good thing. A new-born market does not need to be fractured between so many competitors, especially when so many of them are just dipping their toes into it. In fact, it only hurt the market, because all those people who supported the bad competitors just threw money out in the void.
    The only ones who are serious about VR are Oculus, HTC and Valve. Anyone else can just get out of the fight.

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. I say this because how did Samsung and HP and all the other WMR companies know that Microsoft was going to slow down support for WMR, until they actually slowed it down? Surely these companies wouldn't even of bothered to design and build a VR headset if they weren't serious. 
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,926 Valuable Player
    edited February 14
    RuneSR2 said:
    RedRizla said:
    I think this could have competed well with the HP Reverb and I for one am pretty pished off it's being shelved. I'm still hoping HP will improve upon the HP Reverb with added camera's and a better cable. I was looking at this acer VR headset to replace my HP Reverb, but VR is just becoming one big nightmare after another with all these crappy announcements.

    Can we have some good news for VR to lighten the way soon? :D

    @RuneSR2 - 2k per eye on a Geforce 1080ti and 2080ti is fine.
    Have you tried reviving Stormland? ;)
    I have short arms and long pockets. I usually wait for a sale before I buy games. That is unless it's a horror game I know I will like :)
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