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Why not to buy the Oculus Rift S

GerrahGerrah Posts: 1
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So I have had my Rift S since the fall of 2019 and have come to one conclusion. I should have just bought the Valve Index in the first place.
For $400 it seemed like a good deal for an intro-level headset and seemed to be a good one at that. Wrong. I can't stand to play with this thing anymore. As a player I love action games which isn't good for the Rift S. Anytime I play a game with significant vibrations the controllers completely loose their tracking for a few seconds and I am stuck with my virtual fists across the map on the floor while I get cut up by my enemies because I can't block them. Second, I will be in the middle of a game with my buddies when all of a sudden my hands are frozen in place and I end up having to restart everything. Third, gotta love that Oculus Software with it constantly telling me  I need to update my software for my headset time after time after time. I swear I have restarted the headset 30 times in one sitting just because it kept saying I needed to. Low and behold I just needed to unplug and plug it back in. First world problems, I know. Honestly though, you get tired of trying to play your favorite games only to discover that the headset is your real enemy.

And yes to the Oculus Support team, I have done all your troubleshooting "tips" and it does nothing. The headset makes games that would run smoothly on any other headset completely unplayable. Now I am stuck with a $400 headset collecting dust in my closet while I wait on my Index to come.

My advice to potential Rift S buyers, don't do it. It is not worth it and the constant loss of tracking is unbearable. 

And to the keyboard warriors who will blame my system hardware. I have a AMD RX 5700 and a Ryzen 7 2700.

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  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 794
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    Gerrah said:
    And to the keyboard warriors who will blame my system hardware. I have a AMD RX 5700 and a Ryzen 7 2700.

    And that means nothing ! 
    FWIW mine runs fine, and I even post my full PC specs too :smiley:
    Enjoy your Index, and you should have no problems selling the Rift S
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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited May 21
    Here is my 2 cents on the matter too:

    The headset itself is pretty good, comfortable, definitely an upgrade over the CV1 some areas like visuals and comfort.

    But here is where the issues lies.... Way back when the Rift S and Quest came out, they were both having issues when tracking the controllers close to your head, which they eventually fixed and that's great, then after that the Rift S was having some small issues that they fixed as well that eventually lead to version 1.43, which it was the Rift S's highest point in terms of stability and performance.

    Leading up to the next update which Oculus had the brilliant idea of merging both Rift Platform and Quest into a unified update cycle to make it "Easier" and "Faster" to push out updates, as opposed to working separately and so on with both platforms, in doing so not only doing the biggest mistake in VR history, but also introducing a lot of performance issues with the Rift S across multiple users and their different PC builds, with hopes of them trying to fix it in later versions such as v13, that came and all it did was focus on social aspects and oculus link...

    Okay, I guess we can wait a bit more and see what v14 has to offer to help us with our performance issues, that came and nothing of it was related to the Rift S whatsoever, though some people reported a bit better performance, but not 1.43 better. So we waited, v15 came and again, only oculus Quest and Social notes... Starting to get impatient here, v16 comes out and again the same crap... Rift S getting no love, no attention, no points of the multitude of users on the Oculus Forums being addressed by the Staff there.

    Then comes the biggest update of them all, v17! Guess what that one comes with? You guessed it, more Oculus Quest and Social! Hurray!!, but wait there is more!!!, not only did they do that, but they managed to make the Rift S even worse, as well as mess with the Rift which for some users it was working perfectly fine up to that point.

    And how did they make it worse you ask? How about Blue Screens of death constantly happening? More USB3.0 related issues? After people kept mentioning that, the staff finally had to step out of their asses and comment about the Rift/Rift S, after many months, since December they haven't said jack about them until now, with a lot of people losing hope and being angry at them.

    But that's not the end of the issues, I've asked multiple times and directly quoted the Staff with questions that don't pertain to performance issues or anything such as:

    Why can't we downgrade our software so we can be on the one that performs best for us?

    Why has the Rift S not gotten any features at all since it's launch?

    Why is the Rift S not being supported nearly as much as the Quest?

    All of them ignored as if they were never asked.

    So if you're planning on buying an Oculus Product, get the Quest, wait for news and see if the Rift S finally gets the proper treatment it needs, OR buy elsewhere, WMR as old and bad as it is compared to the Rift S in some ways, at least that actually works, HTC Vive, old yes but it actually works and you can upgrade it to a Pro, or the Index if you wish and all of them actually work and get updates.

    I've given Oculus many many months to even mention the Rift S and it's issues, the only thing we ever got was a tweet and a blog post by Oculus celebrating both the Quest and S 1st year anniversary.

    if you still want to buy the Rift S, then by my guest, but don't say you weren't warned.

    PS: I still think the Rift S is the best all around headset for PCVR because of it's price, but I'm not going to recommended when the software team hasn't done jack with it and is letting it die off.

  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    Umpa_PC said:
    Gerrah said:
    And to the keyboard warriors who will blame my system hardware. I have a AMD RX 5700 and a Ryzen 7 2700.

    And that means nothing ! 
    FWIW mine runs fine, and I even post my full PC specs too :smiley:
    Enjoy your Index, and you should have no problems selling the Rift S
    Fact is it has issues and if you can't notice them, or "don't have them" the thread is not for users like you, so why post?
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,719 Volunteer Moderator
    Everyone is free to post in every thread (provided it's not repeatedly off-topic or against the rules) just as you post your dissatisfaction in many threads. That's ok too.
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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited May 21
    Pointing out legitimate issues in software and how they handle the community isn't dissatisfaction, it's legitimate issues that need addressing but constantly ignored. Saying "Mine works fine" on a thread about having issues with the HMD doesn't add to anything, some people can't even tell the difference, but adding onto the issues the HMD and software is having does, keeping it in topic is better than bloating it with "mine works".. To each their own I guess.

    edit: as for "many" you mean here and the PTC/Release notes that never address the Rift S, or the Rift at all. Again, legitimate issues.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,719 Volunteer Moderator
    edited May 21
    Pointing out legitimate issues in software and how they handle the community is "dissatisfactory" ? Okay ha.
    Not sure what you mean there. Pointing out issues is ok, as I said.
    Doing so in many threads is ok, as I said.

    Doing so, then asking other people not to post their views is less ok.
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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    Pointing out legitimate issues in software and how they handle the community is "dissatisfactory" ? Okay ha.
    Not sure what you mean there. Pointing out issues is ok, as I said.
    Doing so in many threads is ok, as I said.

    Doing so, then asking other people not to post their views is less ok.
    Person makes a thread talking about issues with the Rift S, factual issues that many people are facing.
    Someone coming in and saying "Mine works" doesn't add anything to the topic at hand.
    Someone pointing out more problems that need resolving which are related to the topic DOES add to the topic at hand. 

    When the talk sticks to what the topic is, it makes it easier to gather all the feedback and hopefully gets sent back to the team. By bloating the topic with comments unrelated to the main topic just... bloats it and pushes legitimate comments to the side. 

    Simple concept to understand.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,719 Volunteer Moderator
    Dial it back @CallMeJay360
    We've both made statements that are simple to understand. One of us wants to keep people posting freely, the other seems to want to prevent those that they aren't happy with.

    One of us is a moderator.

    The topic is why someone shouldn't buy a Rift, people are entitled to respond why people should. If only one view is allowed in every thread without allowing a counter-view, this wouldn't be a forum.
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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    I don't understand the threat when it's all been civil, you being a moderator adds nothing to the conversation, but feel free to wave the flag.

    I's not about having ONE view on anything, it's about providing constructive comments so that the people that can do something about it, can see them and fix them, you know? People like Staff members, developers, those with the power to change the software for the better.
  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited May 21
    Why shouldn't you buy the Rift S, because ever since v12 the fact is they haven't given it love and it has had issues and has not be supported whatsoever, developers see this and see the bullet points made by people like me and find and fix the issues. One liners like "Mine work" just tells them to not dig deeper and find out if there is a real underlying issue, which is what they haven't been doing since v12, all the focus has been on Quest and Social features.

    Anyways, good vibes. Here's to hopping the Rift S gets some love.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,532 Valuable Player
    edited May 21
    My Rift S has worked flawlessly the whole time, not sure why I am not seeing the same issues apparently others are with the latest software versions. I have been running this thing hard since getting it a year ago.

    Don

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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    dburne said:
    My Rift S has worked flawlessly the whole time, not sure why I am not seeing the same issues apparently others are with the latest software versions. I have been running this thing hard since getting it a year ago.

    Yeah I've had issues since v12, but seems like v17 is really kicking the Rift/Rift S hard, they can't ignore that fact for too long, I'm expecting v17 to get delayed a bit or v18 to feature PC HMDs fixes and stability fixes.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,719 Volunteer Moderator
    edited May 21
    @CallMeJay360 You seem to be taking everything I say out of context, it's not a threat it's an explanation of why I want people to feel free to post, the moderators are here for that reason.

    The OPs post was to express the view that they have a problem so no-one should buy the Rift. That's an understandable opinion when you're frustrated. But it's no less constructive for someone else to post in that thread that they haven't had a problem so people should buy a Rift.

    But in this instance I'm not so much concerned about what's constructive or not, I'm more interested in when members start asking other members not to post. Unless it's a blatant breaking of the rules, (in which case report it), it's definitely best to leave the requests to the moderators.
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  • adam.poole.313adam.poole.313 Posts: 159
    Art3mis
    Everyone loves Oculus until the hardware breaks and can't be fixed. If you love your Oculus HMD just wait, there's a good chance you will change your tune. If you asked me 2 years ago I would have sung the CV1's praises. 6 months ago I would have done the same with the Rift S' and recommended all of Oculus' products. But now after 6 months of wasting my time and money chasing that elusive headset that once worked perfectly, and being repeatedly LIED to in my support ticket, I would not recommend any Oculus product to my worst enemy. Yeah I am with the original poster here 100%. Anyone that asks my opinion I tell them to buy literally anything but Oculus.

    Its bizarre to me for people to rub it in that oh theirs works great. That's not the point here. This is not a subjective issue. There are problems with the software that Oculus admits exist and they are not fixing it they are consistently making it worse every update. Its been many many months with these problems. We have no idea what hardware combo the HMDs won't work on. They won't tell us and they won't fix it. So while it may work great for you, it won't work for any given person who wants to go buy one. That is why the poster is recommending not to buy one... cause you may end up end up like him and myself.  If Oculus wants the rants to end then maybe they should pause the ridiculous number of updates on the Quest and figure out all of the things they have broken along the way for everyone else.


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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    BINGO! lmao recommend the hardware once it actually works for everyone, not for some.
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,156 Valuable Player
    edited May 21
    Only a very vocal minority cannot actually use their Rift headsets imho.  You pretty well see the same few people posting and reposting rants far too often.  Also very often questionable rants from one post wonders, lol!

    My view is that Rift headsets (S and cv1) are very good PCVR headsets.  Are the perfect and idiot proof?  No.  Jump to any other headset user forum and you will see similar issues.  Same goes for SteamVR forums.  There you often see a large mix of headset rants.

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  • GlobespyGlobespy Posts: 115
    Art3mis
    edited May 21
    There may indeed be a very small number of people who literally can't use their Rift due to issues with Software/FW updates.
    I personally know of a handful of people who have seen performance degradation despite having really high end PC's.
    Clearly something went wrong here.

    Also, consider that the vast majority of people will never spend much time in forums, they will take the headset back to the retailer and hopefully they get one that works. If not then they will get on with their lives because it doesn't revolve around playing games.
    Many enjoy VR as a novelty, and will only spend so much time on trying to resolve issues, and then be done with it and whilst they won't jump in here and complain, they will likely not buy another Oculus product and certainly will be vocal to any friends considering one.

    This is the true damage area that Oculus will never hear about other than their sales statistics - and perhaps they don't care too much as their focus is 100% on Quest and I stand by my theories that the Rift will be shelved in the near future.
    No-one from the original Rift team of inventors and enthusiasts remains at Oculus - they all left due to them not aligning with Oculus's roadmap.
    Quite frankly, I believe that the 'Rift' name is something Oculus will be happy to drop, it's just another loose end tied with the visions and dreams of the original creators who are no longer involved with VR at Oculus/Facebook.
    Quest is the new Rift, the Rift is counting the days - I would put money on it.
  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
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    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only a very vocal minority cannot actually use their Rift headsets imho.  You pretty well see the same few people posting and reposting rants far too often.  Also very often questionable rants from one post wonders, lol!

    My view is that Rift headsets (S and cv1) are very good PCVR headsets.  Are the perfect and idiot proof?  No.  Jump to any other headset user forum and you will see similar issues.  Same goes for SteamVR forums.  There you often see a large mix of headset rants.
    The fact Staff themselves came out and admitted to the issues and how they were trying to reproduce them completely debunks your entire biased statement, on reddit I see a multitude of people posting about crashes and other issues. Fact is I see more people saying they're software is crap than I see people say "mInE wOrKs ThOuGh"
  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    Globespy said:
    There may indeed be a very small number of people who literally can't use their Rift due to issues with Software/FW updates.
    I personally know of a handful of people who have seen performance degradation despite having really high end PC's.
    Clearly something went wrong here.

    Also, consider that the vast majority of people will never spend much time in forums, they will take the headset back to the retailer and hopefully they get one that works. If not then they will get on with their lives because it doesn't revolve around playing games.
    Many enjoy VR as a novelty, and will only spend so much time on trying to resolve issues, and then be done with it and whilst they won't jump in here and complain, they will likely not buy another Oculus product and certainly will be vocal to any friends considering one.

    This is the true damage area that Oculus will never hear about other than their sales statistics - and perhaps they don't care too much as their focus is 100% on Quest and I stand by my theories that the Rift will be shelved in the near future.
    No-one from the original Rift team of inventors and enthusiasts remains at Oculus - they all left due to them not aligning with Oculus's roadmap.
    Quite frankly, I believe that the 'Rift' name is something Oculus will be happy to drop, it's just another loose end tied with the visions and dreams of the original creators who are no longer involved with VR at Oculus/Facebook.
    Quest is the new Rift, the Rift is counting the days - I would put money on it.
    The fact Rift/Rift S hasn't received a single update since February this year is enough proof that they're focus is elsewhere, just because they're not updated, doesn't mean they're finished, running 100%. As many of the people who talk about the issues state, version 1.43 was the peak in performance for the Rift S and that is a fact, no other version after that comes close to it, that's the issue (among others that have been around since the HMD came out). But nooo it works just fine lol  
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,156 Valuable Player
    @CallMeJay360 just another rant, what a surprise, lol!  Seeing multiple, similar rants on Reddit where a large portion of these are trolling little kids and/or brand x fanboys does not add much to your argument imho. 

    Of course there are always going to some issues that need to be resolved.  I also have had a few but I have always found a workaround and generally most of these get resolved in due course.  Sometimes these are a bit of a pita but it has never completely shutdown my ability to use my headset. 

    Honestly, similar issues occur with all VR headsets from time to time.  But heh, if you and a few others think the grass is greener elsewhere then you should consider going there. 

    Alternatively you can do what I did and run a dual PCVR headset setup.  I'm currently running a Rift cv1 and Vive Pro setup and this works very well for me.  Thanks to the Vive Pro Link Box on/off switch and OTT's switching options, it is very easy to switch headsets.  It's nice to be able to use the best headset for the job and also nice to have a backup in case any major issues crops up, and/or you have a hardware problem.

    You seem to think that anyone that has anything positive to say about Oculus is simply biased.  Pretty narrow little view of the world imho.  As you are well aware, most persons with positive comments do not bother to post or comment on obvious rant posts.  For the most part I'm also one of these people but sometimes myself and a few others like @dburne will give counter views, esp. if there is enough info to make a few constructive comments.

    As far as I can see the original poster @Gerrah has gotten enough replies on his query and  nowit's up to him/her to decide where he/she goes from here (hopefully more research).  Debating with a ranter has never been my cup of tea so I will now bow out of this thread.  Up to mods whether or not they feel it is worth closing this thread.  Not my call.  Cheers.

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  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
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    Nobody is ranting, just stating fact LOL  "Of course there are always going to be some issues that need to be resolved", the 2 things they've fixed on the Rift S have been the tracking way back on release and apparently the BSoD in v17. Stuttering, virtual desktop screens graying out, audio turning robotic, etc. it's been almost a year, where are those fixes? You seem to assume I that I have something against people being positive about Oculus, my friend, I've been recommending Oculus since I got my CV1 way back when and I still kept recommending the Rift S and argue as to why it's the best budget VR out there until I started to see issues show up and be ignored, the problem isn't being being positive about oculus, the problem is people small talking saying how their stuff works, when that's cool, but that doesn't change the fact many others are having issues due to their lack of polish of updates (if anything the BSoD in v17 should be enough to confirm that), so although you and that other person are 100% fine with the Rift S and think it runs flawlessly, it doesn't change the fact it's not like that for everyone. 
  • CallMeJay360CallMeJay360 Posts: 81
    Hiro Protagonist
    If anything, you seem to think that anyone that brings up obvious flaws about Oculus is automatically a troll, doing rants, one hit post huh? How ironic Lmao. 
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,532 Valuable Player
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only a very vocal minority cannot actually use their Rift headsets imho.  You pretty well see the same few people posting and reposting rants far too often.  Also very often questionable rants from one post wonders, lol!

    My view is that Rift headsets (S and cv1) are very good PCVR headsets.  Are the perfect and idiot proof?  No.  Jump to any other headset user forum and you will see similar issues.  Same goes for SteamVR forums.  There you often see a large mix of headset rants.
    Yep agreed, never had a problem with my CV1 and never had a problem with my Rift S, which I have been using hard - daily, since getting it around a year ago. Works every time beautifully. Hope it continues.
    Don

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  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 794
    Trinity
    edited May 23
    Umpa_PC said:
    Gerrah said:
    And to the keyboard warriors who will blame my system hardware. I have a AMD RX 5700 and a Ryzen 7 2700.

    And that means nothing ! 
    FWIW mine runs fine, and I even post my full PC specs too :smiley:
    Enjoy your Index, and you should have no problems selling the Rift S
    Fact is it has issues and if you can't notice them, or "don't have them" the thread is not for users like you, so why post?
    Because the balance needs addressing.  Fact is it has issues for some, not all - and many of the people who do have issues hit the forum and many don't even want help - they just want to moan.  Like you - I mean why bother ?
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  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 794
    Trinity
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only a very vocal minority cannot actually use their Rift headsets imho.  You pretty well see the same few people posting and reposting rants far too often.  Also very often questionable rants from one post wonders, lol!

    My view is that Rift headsets (S and cv1) are very good PCVR headsets.  Are the perfect and idiot proof?  No.  Jump to any other headset user forum and you will see similar issues.  Same goes for SteamVR forums.  There you often see a large mix of headset rants.
    Totally agree with you.
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