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[Delete-Oculus] "Facebook Connect" 2020 - BINGO!

kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
edited August 26 in General

Edit - Wow, what a change a few months can have - with the August news we have had to make some edits to the Bingo card, the "Additional Categories" can be found at the bottom!

For those new to this, we have held a bingo game covering Oculus Connect event announcements for the last few years. The rules are simple. Guess which of the announcements, omissions and surprises take place during the event, to win Big Prizes(*)

- During Oculus Facebook Connect 7:

1. Oculus will announce a new low-price Quest [10,000-points]

2. Oculus will announce a new high-performance Quest [5,000-points]

3. Oculus will announce partnering with Microsoft (again) [20,000-points]

4. Oculus will reveal Half Dome 4 and claim it will be made [2,000-points]

5. No mention of Lenovo will be made [10,000-points]

6. No mention of Rift-S will be made [5,000-points]

7. Carmack will host his developers talk [2,000-points] *or he will not [10,000-points]

8. Oculus will announce a Rift-S upgrade [10,000-points]

9. Oculus will announce a new software acquisition [5,000-points]

10. Oculus live feed to the event will crash! [10,000-points]


- ADDITIONAL - During Oculus Facebook Connect 7:

11. Facebook shows the new MR headset on stage [10,000-points]

12. Facebook announces a reversal to the mandatory Logon on Oculus!  [100,000-points]

13. Facebook announces the Oculus operation is now only a brand  [5,000-points]

14. All the old founders of Oculus are invited up on Stage with MarkZ  [100,000,000,000-points]

15. Horizon crashes during Facebook Connect  [10,000-points] *(different to the Live feed)


Calculate your points, to see if you win!

(Please also propose additional scenarios to add to the list)



* = Big Prizes cannot be redeemed for actual items, but are only bragging rights. Adjudicators [OP] verdict is final on all decisions.

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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,365 Valuable Player
    edited June 24

    BOOM!

    2. Oculus will announce a new high-performance Quest [5,000-points]
    3. Oculus will announce partnering with Microsoft (again) [20,000-points]
    7. Carmack will host his developers talk [2,000-points]
    8. Oculus will announce a Rift-S upgrade [10,000-points]

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,392 Valuable Player
    edited June 24
    Seems like I can only get 25K points :#  

    5. No mention of Lenovo will be made [10,000-points]

    9. Oculus will announce a new software acquisition [5,000-points]


    10. Oculus live feed to the event will crash! [10,000-points]


    I think the OP missed this one  B)  :D


    11. Zuck announces he'll return to his birth planet Kepler-452b in the constellation Cygnus and says thanks for all the fish [1,000,000-points]

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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    Some one just jumed in the same time-machine from Tenent and took this photo:



  • hoppingbunny123hoppingbunny123 Posts: 881
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,769 Valuable Player
    edited September 16
    After seeing the tweet by Oculus I can only assume this is going to happen. If it doesn't happen then I'll have to ask what they actually mean by doubling down on improving Rift S.

    2. Oculus will announce a new high-performance Quest [5,000-points]

    5. No mention of Lenovo will be made [10,000-points]

    9. Oculus will announce a new software acquisition [5,000-points]







  • marcelofdezmarcelofdez Posts: 35 Oculus Start Member

    1, 2, 5, 8, 9  ;-) 


    CEO y Fundador 
      
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,769 Valuable Player
    edited June 25

    1, 2, 5, 8, 9  ;-) 


    Someone agrees with me, I said it first though so I take home the prize if I win.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,365 Valuable Player
    Ya'll need to copy/paste the whole thing! Making me scroll up to read the Legend...

     :'( 
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    .....
    I think the OP missed this one  B)  :D

    11. Zuck announces he'll return to his birth planet Kepler-452b in the constellation Cygnus and says thanks for all the fish [1,000,000-points]


    Ah, well no - not going to include that - or one about him drinking water on stage!



  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,908 Valuable Player
    kevinw729 said:

    For those new to this, we have held a bingo game covering Oculus Connect event announcements for the last few years. The rules are simple. Guess which of the announcements, omissions and surprises take place during the event, to win Big Prizes(*)

    - During Oculus Connect 7:

    1. Oculus will announce a new low-price Quest [10,000-points]

    2. Oculus will announce a new high-performance Quest [5,000-points]

    3. Oculus will announce partnering with Microsoft (again) [20,000-points]

    4. Oculus will reveal Half Dome 4 and claim it will be made [2,000-points]

    5. No mention of Lenovo will be made [10,000-points]

    6. No mention of Rift-S will be made [5,000-points]

    7. Carmack will host his developers talk [2,000-points]

    8. Oculus will announce a Rift-S upgrade [10,000-points]

    9. Oculus will announce a new software acquisition [5,000-points]


    10. Oculus live feed to the event will crash! [10,000-points]


    Calculate your points, to see if you win!

    (Please also propose additional scenarios to add to the list)



    * = Big Prizes cannot be redeemed for actual items, but are only bragging rights. Adjudicators [OP] verdict is final on all decisions.


    1 but it won't be a new Quest, it'll be a price cut on the current one and will also announce a price cut for the Rift S too...both to be either $299 or $349.

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    Still too early for announcements of their next headsets, we won't see that until Oculus Connect 8 next year. Both headsets are selling well, were only released last year and neither one of them has competition at the same price point. Oculus will reduce the price of both to keep this going.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,392 Valuable Player
    edited June 25
    snowdog said:

    Still too early for announcements of their next headsets, we won't see that until Oculus Connect 8 next year. Both headsets are selling well, were only released last year and neither one of them has competition at the same price point. Oculus will reduce the price of both to keep this going.
    Agreed, in some way Rift-S feels like a smaller and much cheaper Index - both are lcd hmds, and while Rift-S has inferior sound, tracking, resolution and refresh rate, it will give you a great and affordable experience in new ultra-mersion games like Alyx, Boneworks and Room VR. If you can fix the sound, Rift-S may easily give you the most bang for your bucks the next year or more. No need for Oculus to change anything right now - unless they want to provide Quest 2 with DisplayPort, proper headphones and 90 Hz support ;)
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  • dburnedburne Posts: 4,022 Valuable Player
    edited June 25
    RuneSR2 said:
    snowdog said:

    Still too early for announcements of their next headsets, we won't see that until Oculus Connect 8 next year. Both headsets are selling well, were only released last year and neither one of them has competition at the same price point. Oculus will reduce the price of both to keep this going.
    Agreed, in some way Rift-S feels like a smaller and much cheaper Index - both are lcd hmds, and while Rift-S has inferior sound, tracking, resolution and refresh rate, it will give you a great and affordable experience in new ultra-mersion games like Alyx, Boneworks and Room VR. If you can fix the sound, Rift-S may easily give you the most bang for your bucks the next year or more. No need for Oculus to change anything right now - unless they want to provide Quest 2 with DisplayPort, proper headphones and 90 Hz support ;)
    The sound is quite easily fixed with a set of earbuds plugged into the Rift S headphone jack.
    I figured when I ordered mine upon released the sound would be crap, so I got earbuds even before the headset got here and is all I have used with it, sound is awesome.

    I realize though, earbuds are not for everyone and headsets can get problematic fitting over the halo design.
    I personally prefer earbuds as it puts the sound literally in my ears and does a good job isolating outside noise.
    It just really contributes to the total immersion I get from having the headset on in a game.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,365 Valuable Player
    dburne said:
    Agreed, in some way Rift-S feels like a smaller and much cheaper Index

    So this is the BINGO thread, are you going to actually pick your predictions?

    This is your chance! You've spent the better part of a year on the forum saying that the Rift is going bye-bye. Now's your chance to rack up some points.
     ;) 
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    No personal attacks on this forum - as per the rules
    No attempts to derail the posts - as per the rules of the forum
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,365 Valuable Player
    Asking if someone is going to pick their Bingo values in a Bingo thread is not a personal attack nor a derail. Let's try to stay on topic.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 4,022 Valuable Player
    edited June 27
    Zenbane said:
    dburne said:
    Agreed, in some way Rift-S feels like a smaller and much cheaper Index

    So this is the BINGO thread, are you going to actually pick your predictions?

    This is your chance! You've spent the better part of a year on the forum saying that the Rift is going bye-bye. Now's your chance to rack up some points.
     ;) 
    Why are you quoting text I did not write as my quote? 
    The text you quoted was written by Rune...

    Don

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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,365 Valuable Player
    dburne said:
    Why are you quoting text I did not write as my quote? 
    The text you quoted was written by Rune...


    It was a quote error. The main point though, I was just curious if you were going to actually pick some points for predictions since you have some strong opinions about the future of Oculus VR. This is a good chance for everyone to engage in some friendly competition, and see how their predictions turn out.
     ;) 
  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    edited June 29
    Getting back on track this is the latest statement on when OC7 could take place:




  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    Seems speculation had flared up that a High-end Quest may be on the cards? 
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,938 Volunteer Moderator
    kevinw729 said:
    Seems speculation had flared up that a High-end Quest may be on the cards? 
    Brought to you by SkarredGhost, the same guy who wrote the "Is Quest Killing PCVR?" article. This seems to be speculation more than rumour, but some YouTubers have taken the suggestion and run with it. In this case, the speculation is that of Robert Scoble in an interview. Here's the relevant part of the post:

    Talking about the upcoming Oculus Quest, Robert told me “Look inside and not at the box”. According to some voices he has heard, plus some speculations of his, the new device will feature:
    • Better GPU
    • A smaller and more lightweight design
    • Better cameras to provide better hand tracking, room tracking and maybe object tracking
    • 90-120Hz framerate that can be set via software (it seems that Facebook is still discussing what should be the default one)
    • 4K screen

    for a price around $600. The Quest 1 will lower its price of $100-150 to foster the adoption.

    Robert believes that there’s no need for a cheaper Quest because he has problems in selling the device because of the resolution that doesn’t let you read text or enjoy a movie better than on a physical TV, and not because it should cost $100 less. So he believes it must be a Pro device: “There’s a bigger market for a better quest than a cheaper quest”.

    It seems that Oculus hoped to get it out for Christmas, and they’re still trying, but because of problems with the supply chain (COVID, plus the fact that now Americans can’t fly to China), most probably it will be released in spring 2021.


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  • dburnedburne Posts: 4,022 Valuable Player
    Sounds like Quest will get some love many hoped the Rift might get.

    Don

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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,938 Volunteer Moderator
    If the new Quest has 4K screens, it will replace my Rift for PCVR use.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,392 Valuable Player
    edited August 7
    nalex66 said:
    If the new Quest has 4K screens, it will replace my Rift for PCVR use.
    Doesn't look right for Oculus to increase the price - if they want to increase adoption. And the pink/white colors that may attract females more... it looked more low-end than the current Quest... 
     4K screen sounds like way too much - Snapdragon 845 and even 855 will be in enough trouble just handling the current Quest screen in 90 Hz...

    But I love surprises... Well, some surprises... 

    PS. Great use for 4K screen could be watching 4K movies - that could be interesting... 
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
    Thanks @nalex66 - that was the rumor I was alluding too - even our friends at TESTED mentioned it as their own!

    I personally am not sure its viable, but am happy to entertain it as a possibility. I think the Quest-Pro would stick a steak in the Rift-S and CV2 possibilities - but if supported by a Quest-Lite would make a good suite of products. 

    The key problem with this proposal, would be the performance issues - meaning developers would have two versions of hardware to support, and we have seen the issues that has already caused.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,938 Volunteer Moderator
    Yeah, I don't know what the basis is for this guy's speculation--maybe he knows something we don't, or maybe he's just pulling it out of his ass. I don't believe that Oculus would go that high in price, but I guess it could happen--that's only $100 more than the current Quest 128GB. I personally think they'll do better on the price.

    4K screen is possible--basically the same as the G2 (2Kx2K per eye). That's about 25% more pixels vertically than the current Quest, and a little more increase horizontally, which would fit with the wider-looking lenses. A few more weeks to find out...
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  • kevinw729kevinw729 Posts: 5,707 Valuable Player
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,938 Volunteer Moderator
    RuneSR2 said:
    nalex66 said:
    If the new Quest has 4K screens, it will replace my Rift for PCVR use.
    Doesn't look right for Oculus to increase the price - if they want to increase adoption. And the pink/white colors that may attract females more... it looked more low-end than the current Quest... 
     4K screen sounds like way too much - Snapdragon 845 and even 855 will be in enough trouble just handling the current Quest screen in 90 Hz...

    But I love surprises... Well, some surprises... 

    PS. Great use for 4K screen could be watching 4K movies - that could be interesting... 
    4K would be more useful for PCVR than native Quest apps (but could also be used for media viewing). I believe the current Quest uses 1Kx1K per eye as the default render target, despite the 1600p screen resolution. In Link mode, it uses a default render target of around 1800x2000 per eye (slightly higher than the Rift S default render target).

    In any event, higher res screens would provide improved screen-door effect regardless of the render resolution.
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,769 Valuable Player
    edited August 7
    I'm pleased the next Oculus Quest might use 2k per eye but is it still going to be too front heavy? Comfort is the main thing I look for in a VR headset followed by visuals. I was hoping to see the battery moved to the back of the headset.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,938 Volunteer Moderator
    kevinw729 said:
    ...
    The key problem with this proposal, would be the performance issues - meaning developers would have two versions of hardware to support, and we have seen the issues that has already caused.
    I assume that all apps on the store would still have to run on the Quest 1, and they would just increase the resolution and refresh rate on the new Quest. Side-loaded apps, on the other hand, might more aggressively target the new Quest performance level, adding to an already-interesting landscape of non-official apps.
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