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Windows 7 - Poor tracking quality - Oculus stays black - Oculus Rift CV1

LuMiSoyaLuMiSoya Posts: 1
NerveGear
Hi,
I have an old FF steering wheel which does not work with Windows 10. So I connected a separate SSD and made a fresh install of Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. I installed all updates and the most recent nVidia drivers. I wanted to install the oculus software, but it told me to install two more windows updates. I tried to install them, but they where already installed. So I had to use
/bypassHotfixCheck 
to successfully finish the installation.

After that I was able to setup the sensors and the guardian system, but when the setup screen displays "Continue in VR" and I put on the headset I cannot see anything. The headset is black, from time to time a few dotted lines flash. The led inside the headset at the top starts to change colors between white and orange.Later I discovered that the status in the software changes to orange and it says the the device is connected, but the tracking has poor quality. After a few seconds the status changes back to green.
After the installation I discovered that the device status showed that the sensors are connected via USB2 although they are connected to a USB3 controller. I updated the Intel USB 3 driver to a version from 2017. After that the status show USB3 but the problem with the headset still persists.

I reinstalled the oculus software, changed the USB ports.disconnected the headset, connected it to USB and after a few seconds to HDMI. Nothing worked.

On another SSD there is Windows 10 installed and the headset works fine, so it should not be a generall problem with the rig. It seems to be a problem with Windows 7 or the drivers.

The system:

- Gigabyte H97-D3H mainboard
- Intel i7-4790K
- nVidia GTX 970
- 20 GB RAM

Any suggestions how to fix the problem?

Comments

  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,388 Valuable Player
    Ya, well no surprise.  Oculus has not supported win7 for over 1.5 years now.  For those that insist on staying with an obsolete OS, good luck to you, lol!

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  • azaz09900aaazaz09900aa Posts: 1
    NerveGear
    edited July 27
    who the heck uses win 7 in my opinion win 10 is the best
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,873 Valuable Player
    I think there's a great song for those still using Win7 for VR  B)


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  • BCauseBCause Posts: 6
    NerveGear
    The problem is forced updates. Just stop it. Rendering a product we purchased inoperable by changing the specs is unacceptable.
  • ThmoasThmoas Posts: 345
    Trinity
    Try the Win7 drivers from the steering wheel in Windows 10. Unzip the installer and install manually if there is an OS version check.

    This or keep trying different USB driver versions in Win7.

    W7 is not supported anymore. I think you better try get the steering wheel to work in W10 instead of trying to get Rift to work in W7.
  • andreas.ewers.100andreas.ewers.100 Posts: 1
    NerveGear
    LuMiSoya said:

    Any suggestions how to fix the problem?

    Same for me. Build a "new" PC with Windows 7 Prof. 64 bit and bought an used Oculus Rift 4 months ago.
    I wanted only to play BeatSaber, that was the reason for the "new" PC. Before i used Windows XP.
    Now i hear the scrams "Oh no, XP is not safe, ohno, it´s not supported, blahblahblah".
    It worked many years. No viruses (checked periodically), no problems.
    All You people, go out and buy new OS, new Hardware, new Software every year, because it´s not
    longer supported.  What would you do, if you drive to your local fuel station with your car
    and the fuel-hose didn´t fit in your car?  Then the employee came to you and says "Oh, Sir, we didn´t
    support your Ford anymore, we changed the fuel-hose/pistol, now it is bigger.
    Please buy a Toyota and then come back".
    I guess you will leave and never came back to this fuel-station.
    Same for me.
    First Steam did an Software-Update (beginning of July 2020), after that my Oculus didn´t work in Steam.
    After some days i found "OpenComposite" and it worked again. But i received NO help from Steam!
    So i decided to never ever again buy something from Steam!
    Now the same with Oculus: Software-Update with no option to decline it.
    And now my rift ist electrionic garbage.
    I will see if there is a manual option for a fallback to an old version of the Oculus Software.
    If not, i will install a second harddrive only for Win10, so i can switch between the two OS.
    But guess from which company i will never ever again buy a game?
     Right, from Oculus, because they didn´t want me anymore as a customer.    :(
    Think about it, LuMiSoya!

  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,388 Valuable Player
    For goodness sake, please get a life and update to win10, lol!

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  • BCauseBCause Posts: 6
    NerveGear
    I for one have no desire to use 10 because it's hot garbage.
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,388 Valuable Player
    BCause said:
    I for one have no desire to use 10 because it's hot garbage.
    OK, then please do not complain when win7 fails to work for you.  Certainly do not blame developers who no longer support this obsolete OS.

    Custom built gaming desktop; i9 9900k (water cooled) oc to 5ghz, gtx 1080 ti, 32 gb 3000hz ram, 1 tb ssd, 4 tb hdd.  Asus  ROG Maximus xi hero wifi mb, StarTech 4 port/4 controller sata powered usb3.0 pcie card, PCI-E PCI Express to USB 3.1 Gen 2 card, Asus VG248QE 1080p 144hz gaming monitor, Oculus Rift cv1 w/2x sensors, Vive Pro w/2.0 base stations/controllers, Quest w/Link and VD wireless (good/close 5Ghz wifi and PC with Ethernet cable to my Router).

  • BCauseBCause Posts: 6
    NerveGear
    I will absolutely blame a company who sells and ships a product to be compatible with a given version of windows and effectively breaks the unit when they renege on that promise. It is an unacceptable practice.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,873 Valuable Player
    When it comes to Oculus Win7 support, I think Vader is spot on, lol


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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,945 Volunteer Moderator
    It's not just headsets such as Rift, Index and Reverb G2 that state Windows 10 as a minimum requirement, we're increasingly seeing 10 as a requirement for VR games.

    Half-Life Alyx, The Room for example but will be increasingly the requirement for future VR games like Star Wars: Squadrons.

    There's nothing wrong with wanting Windows 7 support and I would ask that replies to the request remain polite... but at the same time I moved to Windows 10 when DX12 was confirmed to be 10 only and it was clear that hardware and games would eventually not support pre 10.

    It's not just the likes of Oculus that would have to provide support, it's the graphics card manufacturers who work closely with the VR manufacturers because VR features rely heavily on their driver support, even before you get to games developers or game engine developers.

    I find life so much more problem free when I'm not pissing in the wind. And if I do, I try not to complain too much when I get wet.
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  • BisurmanBisurman Posts: 6
    Brain Burst

    First of all this is only topic from last week where pepole are pissed off so this is pretty fresh idea what "developers" invented to forcing upgrade of system. Just like in the beginning of the year...

    Second - just hear my story for a example why this politics is not good at all. I only play one title, a sim racing game where I play in league and now we are half season. I dedicated all my time to master racing and win some real PC stuff and money. So now ALL I INVESTED TIME AND HARDWARE ARE GONE and I have no time to install all system and data before next race! This sim race is old game and DON'T NEED ANY UPDATE BUT YOU JUST FORCED me and other players to do this. 

    I just can't find any more polite words to free speak here how this sucks and how you treated us - gamers who just want play old games on old system.

  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,945 Volunteer Moderator
    edited August 3
    Well it took me about 20 minutes to upgrade from 7 to 10 on an SSD (I didn't clean install until about a year later), the upgrade went super smooth. What time is your next race?

    Edit: data is retained during the upgrade but I keep backups anyway in case something breaks or my PC gets stolen.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,873 Valuable Player
    Actually the free upgrade from Win7 to Win10 should still work, more here:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/

    I have not tested it though.
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,945 Volunteer Moderator
    You haven't said what game, I have all my old games still installed and working, I never delete games.

    If they run on Windows 7, they run on Windows 10. Let us know which games and we can probably confirm if we have them installed.

    As for wanting an old system, we'll sure it's OK to want an old system but that old system is not supported by Microsoft, it'll have increasing numbers of security flaws which don't just affect you but also the people you interact with via email or IMs (potentially) just like not wanting to be vaccinated irl.

    You've also stated your hardware will be gone, but not stated what hardware... what hardware doesn't work on n Windows 10 but does work on 7. State you hardware and we can probably confirm if that's true.

    I think it just comes down to not wanting to change and I totally understand that, but the rest of your post didn't add up in my view.
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  • BisurmanBisurman Posts: 6
    Brain Burst
    Well it took me about 20 minutes to upgrade from 7 to 10 on an SSD (I didn't clean install until about a year later), the upgrade went super smooth. What time is your next race?

    Edit: data is retained during the upgrade but I keep backups anyway in case something breaks or my PC gets stolen.
    Thank you for the answer but still can you understand that,
    there is no optionzero choice for people who just want play old games on old system. This is outrageous! 

    Yesterday I had pre-qualification so today I can't start...

    Last time when almost same sh*t hits the fan (after normal update of Oculus app you can't play anymore because AFTER update app said that win10 is needed) some good soul of community give option, solution: ok just go back to older version but you'll probably dont play new titles and have errors, etc.
    But still there was an option.

    I don't know who exactly to blame but this company policy, a policy that is geared towards silent forcing us to have all the latest upgrades is not right.
    And someone should say: So let's be happy that we don't need the latest versions of hardware...
  • BisurmanBisurman Posts: 6
    Brain Burst
    edited August 4
    You haven't said what game, 
    [...]
    State you hardware and we can probably confirm if that's true.
    Assetto Corsa
    Oculus Rift CV1
    but no game from Oculus Store can start. 

    Ok so now we are talking that I can infected someone via interactions... 
  • t3rr0rbit3t3rr0rbit3 Posts: 4
    NerveGear
    Or you could just update your OS and software. updates are good they bring new features and fix bugs, you must be mad to want to run and old OS that is not supported anymore maybe you should stop crying on these forms and UPDATE you damn PC 
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,945 Volunteer Moderator
    edited August 4
    @Bisurman Assetto Corsa works fine with Windows 10 as does CV1

    If you mean they don't work with Windows 7 then yeah, the problem is Oculus stopped supporting 7. I assumed when you said your sim game was old, that you meant it wouldn't run on Windows 10 and that's why you didn't want to upgrade.
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  • BisurmanBisurman Posts: 6
    Brain Burst
    As for wanting an old system, we'll sure it's OK to want an old system but that old system is not supported by Microsoft, it'll have increasing numbers of security flaws which don't just affect you but also the people you interact with via email or IMs (potentially) just like not wanting to be vaccinated irl.
    I don't want to be taken as sarcastic, but thanks for your time to tell me and others that the core of this situation is that all folks who can't be on their own (and deciding what is good or bad) are forced to upgrades, because we can harm someone with better and latest software...

  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,945 Volunteer Moderator
    edited August 4
    Bisurman said:
    You haven't said what game, 
    [...]
    State you hardware and we can probably confirm if that's true.
    Assetto Corsa
    Oculus Rift CV1
    but no game from Oculus Store can start. 

    Ok so now we are talking that I can infected someone via interactions... 
    It's one reason amongst many so you can concentrate on that reason if it means you don't have to deal with any of the other reasons but your problem is more immediate... compatibility.

    Compatibility with hardware and with software and that's going to get worse, and get worse.

    You said earlier that all your investment in hardware and software are gone. Well, if you don't upgrade that's true, it is.

    It doesn't matter what anyone here says, Oculus aren't going to start supporting an OS that MS no longer supports. MS aren't going to start supporting an OS they've stopped supporting.

    You've been offered a link that gets you Windows 10 upgrade for free (provided you have a licenced copy of 7) and the upgrade takes no more than 30 mins after which you're good to go. So the final decision is all yours, dismiss everyone's suggestions and sell your hardware... or upgrade.

    ....or spend a lot of time here protesting and then upgrade :)
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  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,732 Valuable Player
    Oh and congrats on mastering racing in a video game......
    WAAAGH!
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,711 Valuable Player
    Dear Oculus, I can't run my Rift S on my PC and there's no way in hell that I'm going to upgrade a perfectly good operating system that I've been using since the 80s. Fuck you, I'm buying a Vive.



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  • BisurmanBisurman Posts: 6
    Brain Burst
    Morgrum said:
    Oh and congrats on mastering racing in a video game......
    Thank you!
    I can tell you (but in secret!) that once upon a time I was also mastering Super Mario Bros...........
  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,732 Valuable Player
    I once beat Contra without loosing a life.
     No one has ever believed me. 😭
    WAAAGH!
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