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AMD Radeon RX 6000 First Look - Oh my, (in Fortnite too)

Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,274 Valuable Player
edited September 14 in General
Take a first look at the design of the new Radeon RX 6000 series. Our upcoming
#RDNA2 graphics cards will feature a brand new cooler design, and you can study every angle yourself on our Fortnite Creative Island. 8651-9841-1639.
https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1305612438675562505







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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,410 Valuable Player
    At least it's 2 slot design, but 3 fans indicate a great need to get rid of heat... 
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  • A.ForceA.Force Posts: 92
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    Is this what you people are calling the big navi?
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,274 Valuable Player
    edited September 18
    Yes.




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  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,429 Valuable Player
    Not bad but they need to get rid of those ugly big Rs.

    This design also makes me worry about heat.
  • MradrMradr Posts: 4,151 Valuable Player
    edited September 18
    Digikid1 said:
    This design also makes me worry about heat.
    Compare to 3080 that require a WHOLE NEW DESIGN for cooling with front nad back with a full metal design - it doesnt look that bad. Or consider the 3090 requires 3 slots for cooling as well.

    To me this look normal as far as moving heat around. With that said - I am more worried if they will be able to hit the same level as the 3080 though. RT games / software still a little long ways out so I am not as worried for the RT performance. Then again - all cards coming out will hit a real limit with 1080p gaming. Be ready to upgrade your monitors to at least 2k or 4k to make use of them.

    As for me being worried if it will hit 3080 performance - it more in terms of I want to see AMD finally play some catch up in the video card department. I am not sure I would pick one up personally. I just like to see NV actually have something to fight and base off their reaction already - it seem like they were a little worried this time around so possible AMD does have something up their sleeves.
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,796 Volunteer Moderator
    Have any prices been announced yet without reading this thread (lazy) ;)
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,410 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    Have any prices been announced yet without reading this thread (lazy) ;)

    I have not yet seen any confirmed prices, but educated guesses say less than 3080, maybe about $550.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,912 Valuable Player
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,598 Valuable Player
    snowdog said:
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
    I don't this we'll find out till later next month (~28 Oct 2020).  It would be nice to see it be competitive with the 3080.

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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,410 Valuable Player
    TomCgcmfc said:
    snowdog said:
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
    I don't this we'll find out till later next month (~28 Oct 2020).  It would be nice to see it be competitive with the 3080.
    And just maybe it'll be a card you actually can buy  :D 
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,912 Valuable Player
    TomCgcmfc said:
    snowdog said:
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
    I don't this we'll find out till later next month (~28 Oct 2020).  It would be nice to see it be competitive with the 3080.

    Nice but unlikely I think. This is modern day AMD we're talking about here unfortunately ☹😭☹
  • kojackkojack Posts: 6,753 Volunteer Moderator
    The 6000 has a USB C port on the back. That's interesting, considering Virtual Link is dead and Nvidia dropped it from the 3000 series.
    The fortnite reveal has also shown it only has 1 hdmi and 2 dp. The RTX3080 has 1 hdmi and 3 dp.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,912 Valuable Player
    Hang on, I thought that the Quest 2 uses USB C for Oculus-Link?
  • kojackkojack Posts: 6,753 Volunteer Moderator
    Oculus Link cable - just a usb cable, can plug in any usb-c port.
    Oculink - An industry standard socket used on the Rift-S cable. Ocu stands for Optical Copper, nothing to do with Oculus, just a coincidence.
    Virtual Link - An "alternative mode" standard for doing direct display port connections over a USB-C cable. No consumer VR Headset used it, it was abandoned.
    Nvidia's USB-C port - A Virtual Link capable port, but also works as a standard USB 3.2 Gen 2 port.

    You connect a Quest to a PC with the Link cable to any USB-C port, doesn't have to be the gfx card one, since Quest doesn't support Virtual Link. Or to any USB 2 or USB 3 port if you use a cable with a USB-A plug. The only benefit any headset got from Nvidia's port is good power support, none took advantage of Virtual Link. Well, Xtal and StarVR did, but they are enterprise headsets.

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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,410 Valuable Player
    edited 12:52AM
    snowdog said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    snowdog said:
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
    I don't this we'll find out till later next month (~28 Oct 2020).  It would be nice to see it be competitive with the 3080.

    Nice but unlikely I think. This is modern day AMD we're talking about here unfortunately ☹😭☹

    Yes, but you do find AMD gpus in both Playstation5 and XBox Series X, and both consoles are using Big Navi gpu architectures (although custom RDNA 2 gpus). This demos runs using RDNA 2:




    Now, if Nvidia powered both PS5 and XBox Series X with Ampere gpus they'd surely let us know how amazing that would be for pc gaming - seems AMD is more humble. Bridging high-end gaming platforms does not sound bad to me - at least anything is better than mobile Quest gpus these days, lol. 

    I do have a hard time imagining using a Radeon gpu again, but it did take me through Half-Life 2 and Doom3 the last times. And 5700XT does not seem like a bad card at all, although maybe there have been some VR compatibility issues, but probably not many, or Reddit posts would have been far more numerous. 

    In short, maybe it's more than OK to be excited for Big Navi. 

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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 2,063 Valuable Player
    edited 1:43AM
    RuneSR2 said:
    snowdog said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    snowdog said:
    It's quite a fugly card. Any news on performance yet?
    I don't this we'll find out till later next month (~28 Oct 2020).  It would be nice to see it be competitive with the 3080.

    Nice but unlikely I think. This is modern day AMD we're talking about here unfortunately ☹😭☹

    Yes, but you do find AMD gpus in both Playstation5 and XBox Series X, and both consoles are using Big Navi gpu architectures (although custom RDNA 2 gpus). This demos runs using RDNA 2:




    Now, if Nvidia powered both PS5 and XBox Series X with Ampere gpus they'd surely let us know how amazing that would be for pc gaming - seems AMD is more humble. Bridging high-end gaming platforms does not sound bad to me - at least anything is better than mobile Quest gpus these days, lol. 

    I do have a hard time imagining using a Radeon gpu again, but it did take me through Half-Life 2 and Doom3 the last times. And 5700XT does not seem like a bad card at all, although maybe there have been some VR compatibility issues, but probably not many, or Reddit posts would have been far more numerous. 

    In short, maybe it's more than OK to be excited for Big Navi. 


    Nvidia doesn't push for the console business anymore because the margins are too slim for them. AMD doesn't seem to mind. Nvidia would also have to get a lot more flexible because Sony and Microsoft want custom APU's which AMD doesn't seem to mind accomodating.

    Nvidia parts are in the original Xbox, the PS3 and more recently the Nintendo Switch. Considering Nvidia overtook Intel back in July in worth, I'm sure they aren't missing it too much lol.


    Also, the fact that AMD can supply the entire package themselves is a cost benefit to them. I'm sure there's a bunch of licensing issues with putting an Nvidia chip on a SoC as well.

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,410 Valuable Player
    edited 10:49AM
    Just saw this - ok, might have seen it before, but with 300+ watts revealed from 3080/3090 this suddenly does look much more interesting:



    There are signs that Ampere does not provide a lot more performance per watt compared to Turing - but here AMD says they get 50% more performance per watt. Remains to be measured by independent reviewers. 

    Like Tom said, October 28 seems to be confirmed - should I call in sick that day?  :D

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