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Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,854 Volunteer Moderator
edited September 18 in General
Good day all.

Ok this post is aimed at all posters and forum members new and old...we have decided between ourselves that the forum has become a very toxic and disruptive place to visit. We have had enough of the negative posts and trolling which has increased to a very unpleasant level. Personal attacks, snide comments, silly jibes  posts abusing Oculus/Facebook and immature posting has gone too far in our opinion.
I would usually never name users but @Zenbane and @kevinw729 to name but a few are prime examples of some disruption that we are witnessing. We don't aim to gag people but enough is enough. Toxicity and name calling and thread disruption will now be met with jail time on the forum without warning. 

We and I'm sure many users here, have had enough of this pointless nonsense and it will not be tolerated. If issues continue to deteriorate then matters will be looked at for consideration for a permanent forum ban. This comes from your tired and weary volunteer moderators. We will read any concerns via pm but will not entertain harassment or bullying via the message system.

Please read this, understand what we are saying and do your best to comply.

Any problems or concerns or you think this message is unfair then please have a good read of the forum rules which ARE from Oculus that we are trying to enforce.

Lets make this a happy and informative forum again with good discussions, so let's keep it civil.

Thank you.
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,854 Volunteer Moderator
    edited September 18
    Open for comments and feedback. 
    A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

  • synchromesh62synchromesh62 Posts: 340
    Trinity
    Personally im a Moderator on 2 forums and 4 discord channels and would not have been so generous with your warnings. Usually for me its just the one then gone especially if you get a sarcastic response.
    :)  
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,864 Valuable Player
    Wow, 3 of my best forum buddies are now in jail.  Bread, water, and only 1 bar of soap.  Snowie, I don’t like your chances mate, lol!

    Actually a good way to drive the point home though imho.  Hopefully with good behavior they’ll be released soon.

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  • synchromesh62synchromesh62 Posts: 340
    Trinity
    Oh Jail ... Thats a cool idea. We dont have that.
    Exactly what does that do 
  • TheGreenYoutuberTheGreenYoutuber Posts: 22
    Brain Burst
    Damn yall put they asses in lockup
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,480 Valuable Player
    Just be CAREFUL though.  I have seen way too many mods in lots of forums get "Power Crazy" and start banning for the dumbest of reasons then try to hide behind "rules".

    I respect the mods of this forum...don't get me wrong.  I hope that you understand what I mean.
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,480 Valuable Player
    Oh Jail ... Thats a cool idea. We dont have that.
    Exactly what does that do 

    Yeah I am curious as well.
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,854 Volunteer Moderator
    Digikid1 said:
    Just be CAREFUL though.  I have seen way too many mods in lots of forums get "Power Crazy" and start banning for the dumbest of reasons then try to hide behind "rules".

    I respect the mods of this forum...don't get me wrong.  I hope that you understand what I mean.
    After 4 years thats not gonna happen...
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,773 Valuable Player
    edited September 18
    Digikid1 said:
    Oh Jail ... Thats a cool idea. We dont have that.
    Exactly what does that do 

    Yeah I am curious as well.

    It's supposed to hide my signature. Not sure if anyone can see it or not. I also cannot start new threads. Although I haven't tested this out yet. And I am limited on how many responses I can give to existing threads. I did notice this one in effect when I try to make two posts in a short time-frame.

    But probably the biggest feature of these lovely bars is... any breaking of the rules while in jail is pretty much an insta-ban.

    Nunyabinez said:
     I hope to stay out of jail myself.

    Don't be shy! Come on in. Plenty of room for ya  <3
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,233 Volunteer Moderator
    Zenbane said:
    It's supposed to hide my signature. Not sure if anyone can see it or not. I also cannot start new threads. Although I haven't tested this out yet. And I am limited on how many responses I can give to existing threads. I did notice this one in effect when I try to make two posts in a short time-frame.

    But probably the biggest feature of these lovely bars is... any breaking of the rules while in jail is pretty much an insta-ban.
    Yeah, your sig is not showing (I didn't know about that one).
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 6,320 Volunteer Moderator
    nalex66 said:
    Yeah, your sig is not showing (I didn't know about that one).
    Me either.
    Makes sense, I guess it's a way to stop someone sneaky from bypassing the comment count limit (sort of), just by constantly changing their sig.
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  • synchromesh62synchromesh62 Posts: 340
    Trinity
    Zenbane said:
    It's supposed to hide my signature. 
    I can see your real sig behind the bars ... LMAO ...Sorry but it does look funny when i click it 
    :)
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,773 Valuable Player
    edited September 18
    Zenbane said:
    It's supposed to hide my signature. 
    I can see your real sig behind the bars ... LMAO ...Sorry but it does look funny when i click it 
    :)

    hah! It's just a little fun I was having with the Jail Bars. It is my way of saying "no hard feelings" to the community and Mods. I respect the need for rules and civility, but I also don't take myself so seriously that I can't have a laugh at my own expense.
     :) 
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,773 Valuable Player
    vannagirl said:
    this is suppose to be for oculus customers to talk over our choice of hmd, no? 


    On that topic,

    After hanging out in Discord with some cool peeps, I wanted to try setting one up for Oculus VR community members. I'm 100% new to Discord, but if anyone wants to head on over to that server (which is really for members of his community) then send me a PM and I'll drop you an invite. FYI!
     :) 
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  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,598 Valuable Player
    edited September 20
    Hopefully things will calm down now Facebook have confirmed their direction, finally answering the most contentious issues.

    its a new FB dawn and a good chance to start over.


  • TwodogsprimeTwodogsprime Posts: 31
    Brain Burst
    vannagirl said:


    Yes well i become pretty tired with being told how much my choice of hmd company sucked and feeling unwelcome here i literally could rant for hours over some of the stuff said but i prefer to keep some positive energy in my life.

    I get free speech i really really do, it has formed an aspect of my career,  but there is a line eventually,

    this is suppose to be for oculus customers to talk over our choice of hmd, no? not feel im somewhow shilling for a company constantly and put off from contributing here.

    Personally i feel they should just in future fight it out in the age old tradition of



    In VR ofc where we can all watch and cheer for whatever side.


    Thanks @Mods for the intervention.
     
    +1 Very well said .
  • BlackPixel_BlackPixel_ Posts: 101
    Art3mis
     This is a great decision. I never could understand the FB hate or the trolling when asking the community simple questions. So happy you're jailing toxic people and I hope they reflect on their toxicity.

     I've been sucked into an argument before and it's literally pointless. 

     It made me hate coming to this community for answers and asking suggestions. 
    In the past, even a mod has teamed with the community to further troll. 

    So I hope even the moderators are getting monitored because they are one and the same as the rest of the community.

    Wishing nothing but the best and most positive outcome for these forums. 



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  • Double_ShotDouble_Shot Posts: 127
    Art3mis
     This is a great decision. I never could understand the FB hate or the trolling when asking the community simple questions. So happy you're jailing toxic people and I hope they reflect on their toxicity.



    The thing that frustrates me the most is asking a simple question and then getting some self-appointed and long winded "expert" that responds with everything BUT an answer.  And then when you call them on it, they get indignant and sensitive.   But it's easy to move along.  It's frustrating but certainly not a hill to die on when it comes to interacting on forums.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 6,320 Volunteer Moderator
    edited September 26
     This is a great decision. I never could understand the FB hate or the trolling when asking the community simple questions. So happy you're jailing toxic people and I hope they reflect on their toxicity.



    The thing that frustrates me the most is asking a simple question and then getting some self-appointed and long winded "expert" that responds with everything BUT an answer.  And then when you call them on it, they get indignant and sensitive.   But it's easy to move along.  It's frustrating but certainly not a hill to die on when it comes to interacting on forums.
    I believe the discussion you're talking about is where you were asking about whether there was an app to allow others to view your experience in VR.

    It wasn't clear what type of experience or viewing you were talking about. Whether it was a tour of somewhere or have someone share your game experience. So people gave suggestions as to what could be done which you were dismissive of. That's bound to cause other to be dismissive of you. After explaining further, kojack replied that what you wanted couldn't be done so the suggestions of what could be done could have been useful. 

    Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to explain that we'd like to see members avoid the kind of back & forth arguments that are happening too much. Bringing a disagreement from other threads into this one isn't what we had in mind.
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  • Cavanna00Cavanna00 Posts: 12
    Brain Burst
    I am happy to see this. Though I have what I think are valid criticism of Facebook, their policies and some of their decisions, I have never understood the mentality of coming to what is an enthusiast site to simply bash other people and their chosen product/platform/company.

    I can understand that people were frustrated about the latest decisions and want to vent, and I don't mind that, but once you are out, you should just go post in the forum of your new headset and let us enjoy ours. That doesn't mean we can't post issues, or express concerns here, but there is a difference between constructive and supportive criticism and attacks.

    However, I am equally irritated by unmitigated fanboi post or apologists who make unreasonable defense of indefensible actions. Again, thank you for taking a stand. I hope to stay out of jail myself.
    Exactly!! I wish I would see such well reflected posts more often.
    Nothing is ever black and white. While I also am pretty weary of Facebook and a lot of it's pracitces blatant trolling and hate isn't going to change anything and only spoils the fun for everybody else.
    I'm looking forward to seeing if the new apporach to moderating will change that for the better. Especially when the Quest 2 is finally out.
  • webhead2oo9webhead2oo9 Posts: 2
    NerveGear
    I'm the moderator on a few of the VR subs on Reddit and it's been a pretty rough few weeks for us as well.

    o7
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,480 Valuable Player
    Just how long do you get put in "jail" for?  Zenbane and Snowdog have been there for a couple weeks now.....

    Who is the the "Parole Officer" here???  WE DEMAND THEIR FREEDOM!!! :D:D
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,854 Volunteer Moderator
    edited September 29
    If and only if they are good boys then the ban will end soon, pass the soap lads  o:)

    Zen was jailed on the 18th, nearly 2 weeks, I think Snowy has a day left ?
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 16,773 Valuable Player
    My account says that the Jailtime ends on October 2nd. Ya'll just wait to see what is in store for October 3rd!

    JK. I just wanted to sound dramatic.

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  • synchromesh62synchromesh62 Posts: 340
    Trinity
    Zenbane said:
    My account says that the Jailtime ends on October 2nd. Ya'll just wait to see what is in store for October 3rd!
    October 2nd ... Did you look at the year ... J\K 
    :)
  • NetheriNetheri Posts: 403
    Trinity
     Oh that's nice!

    Does this mean there can be critic against Facebook's "You must kneel and do as we want to use our devices and products"-pill without certain disruptive fanpersons to attack criticizer or is the critic against Facebook also totally on ban on forum moderators level? Meaning, is the criticism against the products and the manufacturer handled instantly as "disruptive", and is it considered to be instant blockage for a "happy and informative forum" on moderator level?

    Still, luckily this doesn't concern me much because of the experiences which i've experienced on these forums (because of the certain fanpers0ns) and because soon i'm happy i don't need the forums at all except for maybe contact one superb 3rd party software developer through private messages. But fortunately Facebook doesn't control the e-mails yet so no need for that basically too. :D
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