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How To Get a RTX 3080/3090 Practical Advice (Updated 22/09/20)

Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
edited September 21 in Off-Topic
OK fellow consumers and friends. I've been well-invested in this 3080 launch debacle, probably more than most since I already sold my RTX 2080 Ti so I'm now using an i9 9900K integrated graphics, GeForce Now, PS4 and Xbox Cloud Gaming for my kicks. 

As you may or may not know, Nvidia have acted pretty naively with the 3080 launch considering they should have expected bots and scalpers to take all the stock, and high demand after their own hype. However, thankfully they are revoking suspicious orders manually. You can see a stock checker for Digital River (European handlers) which seems to be rising hourly because this process obviously takes time.

The issue now then is how does Nvidia move forwards in announcing stock availability? They surely can't expect people to sit on their website and press F5 all day. How do they prevent the bots from taking all the stock again? In their statement, they did mention emails being sent out when stock becomes available, however faith in that system seems low considering the email notifications for the launch were sent out 1 hour after the launch time previously, by which time the stock was long gone. Perhaps then this will be the only way to buy from them via the email link so make sure you sign-up to be notified.

There's some reason to be encouraged though. Nvidia are looking into ways to prevent bot/scalper purchases even if adding a captcha to the store front. But bots can pass those checks, so I hope they figure something else out. Either way, I expect a 3080 relaunch in the coming days rather than them trickling out stock. How they handle it though is anyone's guess. Some retailers are taking pre-orders now but in a queue system, so you can take the gamble of pre-ordering now and waiting your turn. It could be weeks or months though. There's light at the end of the tunnel, as Nvidia is resupplying vendors daily. Yes, that's right, "daily" using their own words. This is encouraging then and means the wait might not be as long as you think. 

My advice though moving forwards then and especially if you are after a 3090 next week is to not put all your faith in getting the Founder's Edition cards and go for an aftermarket version. There is decidedly less interest in the 3090 though from my research, but stock levels are likely to be much less than the 3080. The problem I see with the Nvidia website is I think stock will naturally be extremely limited so even if you're not competing with Bots, your competing with like-minded consumers en-mass. I also don't believe Nvidia will have a tangible solution to the bot/scalper issue by next-week (but they have said they've improved things in a recent update to the store). Sure, it's easy to code re-captcha into a store-front but I am not confident this method can eliminate bots entirely. There is also no guarantee that their website won't "break" again like it did yesterday.

In my experience monitoring the 3080 launch, I found that alternative retailers offered the best chance of securing cards. Several hours after launch I saw pre-orders open for next day, and even a couple of cards in stock.  Some might suggest it's prudent to have more than one store page open in your browser. This might help. Getting alerts might help as well. There are several sites which offer this

Either way, the bottom line is Nvidia wants your business and if the bots/scalpers get them all, then the negative press shrouds them, so it's not a case of they are happy because they got the money anyway. There's enough legitimate customers to buy all the stock, and I would wager they prefer that and moving forwards against AMD who are poised to announce their own wares at the start and end of October. Now, some folks might want to wait for that and then make an informed choice (depending on the RX 6000 series specs). 

Also this is day one. Expect things to level-out over the coming weeks. Sure, the supply chains have been affected by COVID-19, but manufacturing still continues and there's plentiful resources available to large companies such as Nvidia.  Some people are concerned they won't have a new card for the release of Cyberpunk 2077. That's one of this year's most anticipated titles (and showcased during the 30 series reveal). I strongly believe that by the game's November 19th launch there will be plenty 30 series cards available. So a bit of patience will calm your nerves.  Also, word is that a greater amount of inventory will be available in October.

- Keep an eye on EVGA Jason's Twitter feed as he seems to announce when EVGA have stock US or EVGA have stock EUR. They are getting new drops every few days I believe. They are also manually reviewing orders and cancelling bot orders.


Happy Hunting.


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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    In Other news, Nvidia rep said they will have more cards available this week but will be emailing people on the notify list rather than giving a time and release day. I assume they will have a counter-attack for bots in place. They will also be limiting to one card per customer and performing more checks at POS.

    Other retailers are expecting more stock this week but in very small quantities. They expect September will remain pretty dry for new stock but expect more inventory in October.


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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,226 Volunteer Moderator
    When I bought my GTX 1080, I had to chase stock for about a month after release. I was hoping to avoid that this time around. Maybe I'll just forget about it for a few weeks and try again in October. (Or, maybe I'll keep checking stock at all the e-retailers several times a day until it drives me crazy.)
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player
    kojack said:
    probably more than most since I already sold my RTX 2080 Ti so I'm now using an i9 9900K integrated graphics, PS4 and Xbox Cloud Gaming for my kicks.
    That's one reason why I never sell anything, I've always got backups. :) I've probably still got my Nvidia Riva TNT here somewhere if I get really desperate.

    Don't be hasty selling those TNT cards, it's only been like 20 years, but maybe I should consider selling my 2 Voodoo 2 cards in SLI, sometimes I do get the feeling that they have become slightly outdated  :) Then again, need them for Descent 2, GlQuake and the original Tomb Raider - and they still work  o:)

    Back to the GTX 1080, also had trouble with that one due to miners in 2017, had to wait several weeks for it. Guess 3080 is nothing out of the ordinary. 

    Maybe being sold out is a sign from the Gods or similar Divine Powers trying to tell impatient mortals to wait for Big Navi and the 3080 20GB  o:)
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  • LuciferousLuciferous Posts: 2,597 Valuable Player
    kojack said:
    probably more than most since I already sold my RTX 2080 Ti so I'm now using an i9 9900K integrated graphics, PS4 and Xbox Cloud Gaming for my kicks.
    That's one reason why I never sell anything, I've always got backups. :) I've probably still got my Nvidia Riva TNT here somewhere if I get really desperate.

    Somebody wrote a bot script that fucks with scalpers on ebay. It makes fake accounts then starts an unrealistic bidding war on 3000 series cards, boosting the price way too high, then of course not paying.




    Would have loved to see their greedy little faces when they first realised it was fake 😀
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    EVGA has said that this week they are expecting 1000s of new stock for distribution. They also said they are changing the design of the card where the red marking will be replaced with black after lots of complaints.


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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    edited September 21

    GeForce RTX 3080 Launch: What Happened? You Asked, We Answered.

    By NVIDIA on September 21, 2020 | Featured Stories

    Last week's GeForce RTX 3080 launch was simultaneously the best GPU launch ever and the most frustrating.

    The reception to our NVIDIA Ampere architecture GPUs has been off the charts and driven interest to heights we’ve never previously experienced. A few examples compared to our previous launch -  4 times the unique visitors to our website, 10 times the peak web requests per second, and more than 15 times the out clicks to partner pages.

    We expected the best ever demand for the RTX 30-series, but the enthusiasm was overwhelming. We were not prepared for this level, nor were our partners. We apologize for this.

    Our community has asked questions in the past few days since the launch. Jensen’s personal email has been flooded with requests to help. He wants everyone to know he is working with the team.

    What happened? I was really excited for the GeForce RTX 3080, but the launch has made it near impossible to find one and this is really disappointing.

    The demand for the GeForce RTX 3080 was truly unprecedented. We and our partners underestimated it.

    Over 50 major global retailers had inventory on the day of launch. Our retail partners reported record traffic to their sites, in many cases exceeding Black Friday. This caused crashes, delays and other issues for their customers. We knew the GeForce RTX 3080 would be popular, but none of us expected that much traffic on the first day.

    What’s the overall GeForce RTX 3080 stock situation?

    The GeForce RTX 3080 is in full production. We began shipping GPUs to our partners in August, and have been increasing the supply weekly. Partners are also ramping up capacity to meet the unprecedented demand. We understand that many gamers are unable to buy a GeForce RTX 3080 right now and we are doing everything we can to catch up quickly. Keep checking in with your favorite retailer to be notified of availability. You may use the GeForce RTX 3080 product finder to find available cards at local retailers.

    Why does availability start with such low inventory? Why not wait until more cards are produced?

    We have great supply - just not for this level of demand. It is typical for initial demand to exceed supply for our new GPUs. Our global network of partners are ramping as hard as they can to get the new GPUs to the more than 100 million GeForce gamers around the world. Our philosophy has always been to get the latest technology into the hands of gamers as fast as possible. As we race to build more GeForce RTX 3080s, we suggest not buying from opportunistic resellers who are attempting to take advantage of the current situation.

    What changes are you making to the NVIDIA Store moving forward?

    As with many other etailers, the NVIDIA Store was also overrun with malicious bots and resellers. To combat this challenge we have made the following changes: we moved our NVIDIA Store to a dedicated environment, with increased capacity and more bot protection. We updated the code to be more efficient on the server load. We integrated CAPTCHA to the checkout flow to help offset the use of bots. We implemented additional security protections to the store APIs. And more efforts are underway.

    You said the NVIDIA store would have GeForce RTX 3080s at 6 a.m. on September 17th, why did the store immediately go from “notify me” to “out of stock”?

    At 6 a.m. pacific we attempted to push the NVIDIA store live.  Instantly, the NVIDIA store was inundated with over 10 times the traffic of our previous generation launch, which took our internal systems to a crawl and encountered an error preventing sales from starting properly at 6:00am pacific. We were able to resolve the issues and process orders later than planned.

    I saw individuals who use bots/scripts celebrating the purchase of multiple GeForce RTX 3080 GPUs! Did bots get all of the available supply?

    No. While individuals using bots may have shown images of email inboxes filled with confirmed orders, NVIDIA has cancelled hundreds of orders manually before they were able to ship.

    Why did the NVIDIA Store not have any preventative measures in place to battle bots (i.e. CAPTCHA,etc)?

    The NVIDIA Store had many behind-the-scenes security measures in place which proved sufficient for previous launches. This is the first time that we have seen bots at this scale and sophistication. Since launch, we have been quickly working on numerous security upgrades, including CAPTCHA. We will also continue to manually monitor purchases to help ensure cards get in the hands of legitimate consumers.

    Why did NVIDIA send “Notify Me” emails knowing that RTX 3080 FE was out of stock?

    We intended for “Notify Me” emails to go out at 6:00 a.m. with the targeted start of availability. Due to the extreme demand and site traffic, we were unable to properly process orders on time. The emails were held back until the errors were resolved later than morning. Still, inventory sold out very quickly, so we were sold out by time most people opened their emails. In retrospect, we should not have sent the “Notify Me” emails.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thank you for listening, and thank you for your continued support as we navigate through this. We are excited that you are excited about the GeForce RTX 3080 and we are committed to do everything possible to catch up to the demand as quickly as we can.



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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player

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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    Well this makes me much more confident getting a 3090 on Thursday. Not because of slower bots, but more people holding out for the 3080 instead of buying the 3090.


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  • hesten.unamhesten.unam Posts: 31
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    kojack said:
    probably more than most since I already sold my RTX 2080 Ti so I'm now using an i9 9900K integrated graphics, PS4 and Xbox Cloud Gaming for my kicks.
    That's one reason why I never sell anything, I've always got backups. :) I've probably still got my Nvidia Riva TNT here somewhere if I get really desperate.

    Somebody wrote a bot script that fucks with scalpers on ebay. It makes fake accounts then starts an unrealistic bidding war on 3000 series cards, boosting the price way too high, then of course not paying.





    lol, this is the best thing I've seen all week :D
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    Well, scalpers are now doing instant-buy listing, so this don't really work for those who clued-up. I also wish the persons who did this targeted them all so no one could buy them. But, it only really works if Nvidia suddenly have loads of stock so the value of these cards drop. That's not likely to happen any time soon until maybe November.


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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 2,196 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:

    I kind of have to laugh tbh. So the 2000 series was priced higher than ever so only people who really needed a card or people who didn't mind paying the premium bought them. Then they act surprised when they price this series reasonably and everyone with an old card tries to jump on it at once.

    I do believe Nvidia wants to sell to average gamers and individuals over bots as any smart company wants to keep the average user happy....but I doubt they are really that upset about it when the money hits their account lol.

    PC gaming is still growing, it's estimated to be up 5% this year with more than 1.3 billion PC gamers. That's a lot of people starving for a good deal on an upgrade.

  • MradrMradr Posts: 4,178 Valuable Player
    Whats funny is that they will be releasing TI/Super cards later on :P soo all this madness over a card that is going to replace even sooner by something better.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player
    Mradr said:
    Whats funny is that they will be releasing TI/Super cards later on :P soo all this madness over a card that is going to replace even sooner by something better.
    Maybe, the average Joe might just know of 3080 and 3090 - and of course 16GB and 20GB aren't official versions yet. Some who have bought 3080 10GB may be surprised and sad that they did not wait for 3080 20GB, who knows - as many may not be able to afford selling and upgrading from 10GB to 20GB soon. It might be a good idea to choose wisely and not to panic ;)
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,226 Volunteer Moderator
    The Ti and/or higher memory versions will come at a price, though. I've seen rumours of them being $300 higher, and the 3080 is already pushing the upper limit of what I want to spend on a GPU. I can justify it based on the fact that I haven't upgraded in 4 years (rather than my usual 2-3 years), but I'm not spending even more for the Ti. The 3080 will suit me fine, when I can eventually get one.
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  • MradrMradr Posts: 4,178 Valuable Player
    edited September 21
    nalex66 said:
    The Ti and/or higher memory versions will come at a price, though. I've seen rumours of them being $300 higher, and the 3080 is already pushing the upper limit of what I want to spend on a GPU. I can justify it based on the fact that I haven't upgraded in 4 years (rather than my usual 2-3 years), but I'm not spending even more for the Ti. The 3080 will suit me fine, when I can eventually get one.
    Yes, but if money is problem I would just wait for the AMD cards at that point. The 10GB version is ok - but the amount just too low for 4k long term with many games already using 8 and 10. I am looking into upgrading to 4k my self.

    If you are getting these cards (3080, 3090) for 1080p you are just wasting your money at this point with 2k inching pretty close. The best bang for buck I feel will be the 3070 TI that is rumor with GDDR6(none x) 16GB.

    I feel like this is the year that 4k and 1080p will finally split just like 720p to 1080p back in the day.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player
    Agreed, Big Navi with 16GB could be fun. I've had Nvidia for the last 14 years or close, could be fun going back to Radeon - but of course only if AMD gets most things right this time.
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  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,226 Volunteer Moderator
    Mradr said:
    nalex66 said:
    The Ti and/or higher memory versions will come at a price, though. I've seen rumours of them being $300 higher, and the 3080 is already pushing the upper limit of what I want to spend on a GPU. I can justify it based on the fact that I haven't upgraded in 4 years (rather than my usual 2-3 years), but I'm not spending even more for the Ti. The 3080 will suit me fine, when I can eventually get one.
    Yes, but if money is problem I would just wait for the AMD cards at that point. The 10GB version is ok - but the amount just too low for 4k long term with many games already using 8 and 10. I am looking into upgrading to 4k my self.

    If you are getting these cards (3080, 3090) for 1080p you are just wasting your money at this point with 2k inching pretty close. The best bang for buck I feel will be the 3070 TI that is rumor with GDDR6(none x) 16GB.

    I feel like this is the year that 4k and 1080p will finally split just like 720p to 1080p back in the day.
    It’s not that money is a problem per se, just that there’s a point beyond which it’s a case of diminishing returns. Another few hundred dollars for a bit more VRAM or a few % more FPS, on top of the price of the 3080, crosses that threshold for me. 

    I’m gaming at 1440p, but I’d like to try raytracing with upcoming titles like Cyberpunk 2077, and I’d like some more oomph for VR. I’m not willing to cross over to the AMD camp, because I believe that Nvidia has better driver support, especially for VR. I feel like 3080 is the sweet spot of this generation for me.
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  • PhoenixSpyderPhoenixSpyder Posts: 336
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    With the initial leak benchmarks comparing the 3080 to 3090 and only showing 5%-10%+ increase it'll be interesting to see what happens down the road when software catches up with the hardware. We may just yet see that 20%+ performance boost that Nvidia mentions. No doubt the extra cores + memory aren't just doing nothing presently, but may be utilized better down the road.

    Also, a thought...if they do release a 3080Ti, it will no doubt cannibalize the 3090...and would probably put performance somewhere close to the 3090. I think instead they will release a 3090Ti if they release a Ti at all. It will also depend on what AMD pulls out of the hat. They have 2 choices they can make, what ever it is, we know they always leave the Ti for besting.
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    edited September 21
    Updated first post with some EVGA info.

    Some user defined 3090 benchmarks showing better improvement. Also his CPU might cause some bottle-necking (i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz).


    See full thread here - https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/ix9zcg/early_msi_geforce_rtx_3090_gaming_x_trio/

    Edit: Okay I'm on it. Comparing average fps from various reviews. Some are FE, some are 3080 gaming trio x. This was done with no double checking and really just grabbing things as I saw them. Take it with a grain of salt and I apologize for mistakes.

    • Time Spy (graphics): 20569 vs 17645 (via arstechnica). 16.6% Increase

    • Time Spy Extreme (graphics): 10560 vs 8798 (via arstechnica). 20% Increase

    • Assassin's Creed Odyssey (4K/Maxed): 71 vs 63 (via arstechinica) 12.7% Increase

    • Horizon Zero Dawn (4K/Ultimate Quality): 86 vs 73 (via techspot) 17.8% Increase

    • Red Dead Redemption II (4K/Maxed/No MSAA): 66 (can't find any exact)

    • Shadow of the Tomb Raider (4K/Maxed/DLSS/No RT): 112 vs 103 (via guru 3D) 8.7% Increase

    • Shadow of the Tomb Raider (4K/Maxed/DLSS/RT): 82 vs 69 (via pcgamer) 18.8% Increase

    • Control DLSS Quality 55-70 vs 64.8 (via gamers nexus)

    • Control DLSS Performance 80-95 (can't find anything)



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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player
    Did see that post too, but apart from 3D Mark can we be sure all other benchmarks are identical? 

    Looking forward to more pro-reviews.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 6,838 Valuable Player
    edited September 22
    The above results did include some VR benchmark - if true:

    "Not sure yet if at 90 or 120hz, but if at 120, boy oh boy is that a big jump from the 3080's 71. Here I am at a 48 on my 1080ti.."

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/ixkmd2/looks_like_someone_allegedly_got_their_hands_on_a/

    Now 84 fps (3090) is 18% faster than 71 fps (3080) - does seem reasonable compared to other leaked 3090 benchmarks. Only 18% more performance still is quite modest from a card costing 114% more. 

    Then 3090 would be 75% faster than 1080 Ti. And 3080 would be 48% faster than 1080 Ti. That's in VR - but I don't know how that benchmark compares to real VR games, but it's close to the only VR benchmark we have  :/  :'(
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 7,959 Valuable Player
    kojack said:
    probably more than most since I already sold my RTX 2080 Ti so I'm now using an i9 9900K integrated graphics, PS4 and Xbox Cloud Gaming for my kicks.
    That's one reason why I never sell anything, I've always got backups. :) I've probably still got my Nvidia Riva TNT here somewhere if I get really desperate.

    Somebody wrote a bot script that fucks with scalpers on ebay. It makes fake accounts then starts an unrealistic bidding war on 3000 series cards, boosting the price way too high, then of course not paying.





    lol, this is the best thing I've seen all week :D

    I've just noticed people are using the buy it now option, but there are still some cards going for these prices, or should I say not going for these prices :D
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    edited September 29
    Got my Asus TUF 3090 coming tomorrow from Scan. What I managed to do on launch day is focus on two pages. I knew the Nvidia page was going to be a washout so I focused on a slightly more expensive model on Scan. The trick being is not only slightly more expensive but was pre-order only even before the 2pm sale time. I assume this put a lot of people off, so I was able to order in the first 5 minutes and with it arriving tomorrow I assume in the first batch. 

    Now I can get out of this horrible race. What a nightmare. I wish everyone good luck if you're still looking out for a new 3080/90.


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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 2,196 Valuable Player
    edited September 29
    Very nice, let us know how it works out for you. I wanted a founders edition 3090 but yea that was a waste of time to try lol.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 6,226 Volunteer Moderator
    Well done. I still haven't seen any 3080's that I can buy, except if I go into a Canada Computers store and back-order one (full payment upfront, no estimate of when it would come in). I'll just keep watching NewEgg.ca and wait for stock to eventually show up (haven't seen any availability of any model there yet).
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,314 Valuable Player
    pyroth309 said:
    Very nice, let us know how it works out for you. I wanted a founders edition 3090 but yea that was a waste of time to try lol.
    Problem with the FE is it's the cheapest. So every Tom, Dick is going for it lessening your chances.


    System Specs: ASUS NVIDIA RTX 3090 TUF GAMING OC 24GB , i9 9900K CPU, 16 GB DDR 4 RAM, Win 10 64 Bit OS.
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 2,196 Valuable Player
    nalex66 said:
    Well done. I still haven't seen any 3080's that I can buy, except if I go into a Canada Computers store and back-order one (full payment upfront, no estimate of when it would come in). I'll just keep watching NewEgg.ca and wait for stock to eventually show up (haven't seen any availability of any model there yet).

    Yea, I'm just going to wait and see where about these AMD cards land. We should start seeing some stock by the end of October I'm guessing. Nvidia as well as all the AIB's are in full production.

    Nvidia and all of their partners said they had the normal amount of stock on hand for launch, it's just record demand. Nvidia Stock price should be going up lol.
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 2,196 Valuable Player
    edited September 29
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  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,478 Valuable Player
    I said it once, I said it twice, and I will keep saying it.....

    People need to learn to WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  This happens almost every time when something comes out and they then complain because it doesn't work.  Sure it can be fixed by software updates about 70% of the time but that other 30% is when it is a hardware issue that requires you to send it back and wait....and wait....and wait.

    Patience is a good thing.


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