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Did the DK2 specs change since announcement?

Emvy-Emvy- Posts: 125
Hiro Protagonist
edited June 2014 in General
I was wondering if the DK2 got changes/improvements in between announcement and soon to be shipping date?

it has been a couple of months since annoucement so allot could have happend in-between.

maybe cybereality can tell us if this is the case or not? :)

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  • GeraldGerald Posts: 1,068
    Nexus 6
    the only reason you'd change spec that late would be if production problems prevent you from staying with your final specs. those are not to expect so the specs will not change. the DK2 is pretty much the same specs as the Crystal Cove which is even older. new developments will make it into the next generation.
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  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    In an interview at E3, Palmer even said that CV1 was pretty much locked down.

    When you are doing large numbers of parts in a production run, you get the best pricing if you go with flexible schedules and long lead times. With the previous and even current emphasis on selling these cheap, they probably went with the longest practical lead times on the plastics, the electronics, etc. But unless you want to pay a fair amount extra for a design change - which then carries even more consequences if it obsoletes various parts already ordered - the entire design is locked in at the time you contract the run. At least that's been what I've seen in the electronics industry.

    It's a fair guess the design was final when they started accepting orders on March 19th. They may have even placed the orders before then with a best guess for quantity and adjusted it later if needed. But the design would have probably been finalized before or around March 19 as a best guess.

    But it is only a guess. They might surprise us with some included tracking accessory or something that plugs into the USB port since with the acquisition of Carbon Design Group it's now likely OVR is looking well beyond just an HMD. It's impossible to say how likely some USB accessory is without a leak or statement from OVR. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it. But the Rift itself is probably just what is being shown in the photos introducing DK2.
  • VallieVallie Posts: 124
    Art3mis
    Gerald wrote:
    the DK2 is pretty much the same specs as the Crystal Cove which is even older.

    Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if the DK2 is superior , or rather inferior to the Crystal Cove?
    Aside from losing those stylish cute little white speckled censors.
  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    Vallie wrote:
    Gerald wrote:
    the DK2 is pretty much the same specs as the Crystal Cove which is even older.

    Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if the DK2 is superior , or rather inferior to the Crystal Cove?
    Aside from losing those stylish cute little white speckled censors.

    They aren't "lost". They are still there and so is the camera that monitors them for tracking. They are individually addressable near-infrared LEDs which show up in some videos of people using DK2 if the video camera doesn't have a high enough cutoff filter to block the near-IR.

    They are inside the faceplate now instead of directly visible through cutouts. The faceplate is transparent to the near-IR light.

    It's just cleaner and a little safer for the surface mount LEDs. Less chance of static shock killing the circuitry, etc.
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,529 Volunteer Moderator
    They may not be "lost", but being invisible, they are no longer stylish or cute.
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  • VallieVallie Posts: 124
    Art3mis
    Excellent~ Though I still miss the polka dots...
    Humor aside, on a technical level would you say it's the same experience as the CC, or mostly superior?
  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    What seems to be the response is basically the same as Crystal Cove with the exception being the software has improved.
  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    Vallie wrote:
    Excellent~ Though I still miss the polka dots...

    I suppose if they made a clear plastic faceplate you could get them back as long as it wasn't being used as part of the light shielding. That could be kind of cool, though. The LEDs are on a big flexible polyimide circuit board and look very nice!

    Or, you could always just drill holes at all the LED locations if you wanted them bare. But you would lose the static shielding effect of having a solid plastic faceplate over them.
  • balonimanbaloniman Posts: 130
    Vallie wrote:
    Excellent~ Though I still miss the polka dots...
    Humor aside, on a technical level would you say it's the same experience as the CC, or mostly superior?


    From what I understood they are the same save a few cosmectic changes. I don't think the hardware hard changed much if at all except that pass through plastic overlay to the LED's. I know they said many improvements have been made to software.
  • SinisterSaladSinisterSalad Posts: 31
    Brain Burst
    Just take some white-out and put dots on the plastic next to each LED. That way, you get your dots, and they're still protected. lol
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  • GeraldGerald Posts: 1,068
    Nexus 6
    ThreeEyes wrote:
    Vallie wrote:
    Excellent~ Though I still miss the polka dots...

    I suppose if they made a clear plastic faceplate you could get them back as long as it wasn't being used as part of the light shielding. That could be kind of cool, though. The LEDs are on a big flexible polyimide circuit board and look very nice!

    Or, you could always just drill holes at all the LED locations if you wanted them bare. But you would lose the static shielding effect of having a solid plastic faceplate over them.

    actually they made a clear/milky plastic faceplate :D ... that would be my favorite DK2 version if they would sell it.

    look at the picture a bit further down: http://www.roadtovr.com/e3-2014-oculus-vr-booth-tour-mini-museum-reveals-never-seen-rift-prototypes/

    I really liked the ability to see the LEDs, but in the end when I am "in" I won't notice the difference anyway.
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  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    Very cool! Thanks for that link!

    That cover looks 3D printed. Wonder if it was and if they would ever make the .stl (or whatever format) available? If they did, people could add things in relief to it, print it in different colors (as long as it was IR transparent), or whatever.

    Shapeways, baby! (or print them at home if one has a good personal 3D printer...)
  • cyberealitycybereality Posts: 26,156 Oculus Staff
    No. The specs for DK2 were finalized and locked months ago and have not changed.
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  • GeraldGerald Posts: 1,068
    Nexus 6
    ThreeEyes wrote:
    Shapeways, baby! (or print them at home if one has a good personal 3D printer...)

    yeah - I really hope someone will give us a good 3D model to print, because I would love to switch for a transparent one :)
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  • Far515Far515 Posts: 88
    No. The specs for DK2 were finalized and locked months ago and have not changed.


    Sooooo, you've got plenty of time to work on CV1, eh? I bet CV1 specs are completely locked down at the moment and they are planning mass-production. But only my 2 cents. :lol:

    PS.: Still hoping for a 2014 release, if it wasn't obvious enough. :)

    P.S.2: But really, please tell us why you are always like "nothing to announce yet". If you know, that you can't make it in 2014, you could tell us. It would even boost DK2 sales, though it's not meant for consumers.....so my hopes are still up, that they are planning to give a release date after DK2 has shipped. Around the end of August....
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  • ThreeEyesThreeEyes Posts: 2,230
    NerveGear
    Gerald wrote:
    yeah - I really hope someone will give us a good 3D model to print, because I would love to switch for a transparent one :)

    I'm kind of liking that red one... ;-) But basic black also looks pretty sweet...
  • Hicks613Hicks613 Posts: 321
    Nexus 6
    DK2 no longer looks like a handbag. :lol:

    And instead of multiple cables coming out the top of the unit you have just one. :P
  • VallieVallie Posts: 124
    Art3mis
    That translucent red one is the awesome!!
    I'd still put rainbows & unicorns on it though.

    And dots. More dots.
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