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Has everyone calmed down now?? :)

steveoz32steveoz32 Posts: 350
Art3mis
edited January 2016 in General
I've been away from the forum for a week or so.

Granted I had issues when my order was messed up and I wasn't getting a response a couple of days from the pre order day but I ended up calming down :)

Got a little bored of seeing the USD price threads, moaning about price threads, will my PC run it threads etc appearing over and over and over!

So how is everyone feeling about their orders and or the release now? Everyone happy bunnies again? And are you excited yet?

The excitement has worn off for me now, but it's nice thinking that the time will soon come around and I will have a little surprise later this year to look forward to :)

I'm hoping the CV1 will work with some of the old apps though such as Virtual Desktop. That was one of my favourite apps.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,044 Valuable Player
    I've always been calm about these things. I was expecting the Rift to launch at $499 but was also expecting those of us unlucky enough to be living in the UK to pay £499. So here in the UK it's priced where I thought it would be lol

    I tend to have around 500 quid to spare every 6 months or so, in November last year I built the first part of my VR PC for around £700 (Intel i7 6700K, Asus Maximus Ranger VIII motherboard, 16GB of DDR4 plus case, SSD, power supply etc). In May-July I'm going to be getting a meaty GPU (either a Pascal or Polaris) and then in November this year I'm going to be getting either a Rift or a Vive, with the Rift being more likely at the moment.

    I've been waiting for VR gaming goodness for 30 years or so. These days are good days to be alive! :D
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  • cdmoore74cdmoore74 Posts: 104
    Art3mis
    Noticed that the majority of whiners regarding price and PC requirements left the forums. While I understand the sticker shock I don't see how people could complain about the PC requirements. Oculus released requirements months ago and I've used that template to upgrade my computer last November. People had nothing else better to do but complain.
  • TrytipedTrytiped Posts: 267
    Nexus 6
    I'm prob a little too excited literally all I ever do when i get on my phone is read up on more information about the Oculus rift. I was upset with all the complainers not the price tag. I believe the Rift is worth every single penny spent and I really cant freaking wait tell I get one, my Gear vr isnt going to hold me off long enough lol
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  • onefangonefang Posts: 249
    NerveGear
    I can understand the laptop people whining. A large part of the audience for my own virtual world stuff prefers to use whatever cheap student or business laptop they happen to have available. Now most so called gamer laptops are under specced for Rift. Despite the fact that they worked fine prior to SDK 0.7. That can be most upsetting if that's what you just paid a lot of money for.

    I can still understand the aussies complaints about the shipping charges, coz I gotta pay them to, being an aussie myself. lol

    The aussie tax and actual base cost for the CV1 I figured out, and I'm happy with those now. I'm even hedging my bets and keeping my CV1 money in Euros, not knowing if Oculus will charge me the US$ they have on the order, or the AU$ we prefer to use here in AU, but suspecting both are likely to go down v Euro in the next few months.

    I can't speak for the Canadians or Europeans, except that they seemed to have gotten off lighter than me. ;-P

    I've calmed down a bit, wasn't worried about laptops personally, and now have a few months of waiting on my hands. I'm supposed to be handing this DK2 back to my client, but they haven't told me where to send it yet. Soooo, like many, idle hands, .... waiting for CV1 to actually drop, .... too many questions, not enough answers, ... well you all see the results in these busy forums.
  • Arock387Arock387 Posts: 729
    Trinity
    Meh, I have been positive through the whole thing. Although I realize $600 is a bit of money I honestly didn't bat an eye. Why? you're probably not asking, well I'll tell you anyway. Because I want to be there for this Virtual Reality launch. Ive been gaming and into technology since I could pick up a controller (and beat Mario by age 3). I'm not worried about it not launching with the Oculus controllers. It will come later and I will probably be in line and ordered as soon as we can.

    The ONLY thing I'm worried about is support. I know I'm going to love it even though its not perfected. I just pray there are plenty of great experiences with it.
  • smilertoosmilertoo Posts: 268
    Hiro Protagonist
    once the early development games are out the VR game market is going to dry up until 2017, good old chicken and egg situation.
  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    I was always pretty calm too. Like Snowdog above, I was expecting a UK price of £499. Hoping for less, but I'd been anticipating £500 for weeks, so placed my order. I've found the experience so far to be more frustrating than annoying. We're queueing up to pay Oculus a large amount of money and they really could have handled the launch better. Still, hindsight is a great thing!

    I'm just hoping we get confirmation fairly soon of when our individual orders are likely to ship...
  • whoa182whoa182 Posts: 381
    Trinity
    I had already assumed it was going to be around £500 anyway, so I had all the money already saved and had no problem with the price. :)
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  • MradrMradr Posts: 3,528 Valuable Player
    notsram wrote:
    I was always pretty calm too. Like Snowdog above, I was expecting a UK price of £499. Hoping for less, but I'd been anticipating £500 for weeks, so placed my order. I've found the experience so far to be more frustrating than annoying. We're queueing up to pay Oculus a large amount of money and they really could have handled the launch better. Still, hindsight is a great thing!

    I'm just hoping we get confirmation fairly soon of when our individual orders are likely to ship...
    How so? Samsung and Apple also have this same issue on release day with their servers going down ;) too many people = long line is all I am going to say ~
  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,067 Valuable Player
    cdmoore74 wrote:
    Noticed that the majority of whiners regarding price and PC requirements left the forums. While I understand the sticker shock I don't see how people could complain about the PC requirements. Oculus released requirements months ago and I've used that template to upgrade my computer last November. People had nothing else better to do but complain.

    I agree about the pcv requirements. it is hardly oculus' fault that being on the tip of the curve with VR is pricey.

    As for the cost of the HMD ittself. For me the issue was never with the cost of the HMD, it was with the balls up in expectation management on the cost of it.

    But Palmer Lucky has already carried the can for that, the water is well and truly under the bridge so onwards and upwards and all that.

    TLDR - if you cant afford a high end PC, wait till the prices come down or get a PS4 with PS VR
    if you cant afford a rift HMD, wait a few more years. the gear which is in the unit is not cheap, but will come down in time.
    Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR :)
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    If you think this is calm you should check out posts like this from July 15

    https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=24951&hilit=quiet

    8-) :lol:
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  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    Mradr wrote:
    notsram wrote:
    I was always pretty calm too. Like Snowdog above, I was expecting a UK price of £499. Hoping for less, but I'd been anticipating £500 for weeks, so placed my order. I've found the experience so far to be more frustrating than annoying. We're queueing up to pay Oculus a large amount of money and they really could have handled the launch better. Still, hindsight is a great thing!

    I'm just hoping we get confirmation fairly soon of when our individual orders are likely to ship...
    How so? Samsung and Apple also have this same issue on release day with their servers going down ;) too many people = long line is all I am going to say ~

    No, I don't mean the server outage. That was brief, and pretty much expected TBH.

    I'm talking more about the misleading pricing. Oculus knew full well that many people were expecting $350ish as the launch price. They could have nipped that in the bud months ago and not had 1/10 of the backlash they've had now.
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    edited January 2016
    notsram wrote:
    Mradr wrote:
    notsram wrote:
    I was always pretty calm too. Like Snowdog above, I was expecting a UK price of £499. Hoping for less, but I'd been anticipating £500 for weeks, so placed my order. I've found the experience so far to be more frustrating than annoying. We're queueing up to pay Oculus a large amount of money and they really could have handled the launch better. Still, hindsight is a great thing!

    I'm just hoping we get confirmation fairly soon of when our individual orders are likely to ship...
    How so? Samsung and Apple also have this same issue on release day with their servers going down ;) too many people = long line is all I am going to say ~

    No, I don't mean the server outage. That was brief, and pretty much expected TBH.

    I'm talking more about the misleading pricing. Oculus knew full well that many people were expecting $350ish as the launch price. They could have nipped that in the bud months ago and not had 1/10 of the backlash they've had now.

    There is little point going over old ground.

    Yes Oculus messed up the message, and yes Oculus changed their direction towards quality over affordability, but honestly which would you rather have a cheap Rift that did not live up to the best it could be or... what we have... a more expensive rift that delivers the best that could be possible today?

    I myself was very vocal both before and after the pre-orders about the decision to not divulge the pricing and stated very clearly I thought it was a mistake.

    I'm very glad that Palmer came forward and apologized for that mistake.

    so rather than dwell on past mistakes, let's move forward o.k.?
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  • maxpare79maxpare79 Posts: 1,782
    Project 2501
    Always been calm, but now I am nervous about Elite Dangerous rift support lol, and itching to upgrade my system but disappointed that the release dates of Pascal, Polaris, zen, etc...are so far away...
    I am a spacesim/flightsim/racesim enthusiast first :-) I7 [email protected], 16gb RAM/ Asus 1080 Strix Former DK2 Owner/Gear VR owner/CV1
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    maxpare79 wrote:
    Always been calm, but now I am nervous about Elite Dangerous rift support lol, and itching to upgrade my system but disappointed that the release dates of Pascal, Polaris, zen, etc...are so far away...

    Me also... People are saying that to not worry it will be there... but Frontier are not making the right kind of noises for it to be a certainty.
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  • Vic20Vic20 Posts: 54
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited April 2016
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  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    maxpare79 wrote:
    Always been calm, but now I am nervous about Elite Dangerous rift support lol, and itching to upgrade my system but disappointed that the release dates of Pascal, Polaris, zen, etc...are so far away...

    Yep, the ED news is a bit worrying... I guess a lot of people are going to be looking even more closely at the Hive release price now.
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    notsram wrote:
    maxpare79 wrote:
    Always been calm, but now I am nervous about Elite Dangerous rift support lol, and itching to upgrade my system but disappointed that the release dates of Pascal, Polaris, zen, etc...are so far away...

    Yep, the ED news is a bit worrying... I guess a lot of people are going to be looking even more closely at the Hive release price now.

    I guess you are not one of them... it's called the VIVE! lol :lol:
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,152 Volunteer Moderator
    Hive is what you get if you're allergic to VR
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  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    Hive is what you get if you're allergic to VR

    or perhaps we will all become a hive mind... Oh No it's the New world Order Conspiracy theory coming true! :D
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  • HiThere_HiThere_ Posts: 1,276
    3Jane
    If there had been a checkbox to choose between a 400$ DK3 or a 600$ CV1, I would have clicked the CV1 box or waited till I had enough money to click it. It's more like I felt sorry for those who were expecting a 350$ CV1 and won't be able to afford a 600$ one right away.

    And with the CV1 costing 600$ by itself, it now makes more sense to have bundled a 2D controller instead of the 6D Touch controllers.

    The Touch controllers will probably include a second camera to unlock 360° tracking and small sized room tracking, so that's covered.

    I don't see HTC Vive Pre's wide size room tracking tacking off because most people simply don't have a wide sized room to dedicate to VR, specially outside the U.S. Even the Xbox kinect struggled with room size, and that was although it was a LOT less demanding then a room sized VR experience would be.

    I'm disappointed by the lack of a built-in camera (also meaning no AR tags, or locating your various input controllers or your cat without taking off the headset), and hope a third party will provide both a wireless mod and an AR mod, if only limited ones.

    And I'm looking forward to the new CPU and GPU architectures coming out this year.

    As long as you can afford it, the 600$ pricing is more good news then bad news, because that extra 200$ went straight into the hardware. If anything maybe they could have announced Lucky's Tale and Eve Valkyrie being bundled in just after the 600$ launch instead of just before it (or maybe even have revealed them as included straight on the pre-order page). And I can see myself using that handy remote control they included too.

    As long as the HTC Vive Pre is announced as expensive as I am expecting it (closer to 1xxx$ then 800$), the CV1 is a no brainer in my case. Simple as that :)
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    Cyril wrote:
    If there had been a checkbox to choose between a 400$ DK3 or a 600$ CV1, I would have clicked the CV1 box or waited till I had enough money to click it. It's more like I felt sorry for those who were expecting a 350$ CV1 and won't be able to afford a 600$ one right away.

    Yes it hit home hard for all of us but especially so for those that simply can't afford that much.

    I'm sure none of us are strangers to disappointment, so we have to sympathies somewhat I think.
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  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    Tim74UK wrote:
    notsram wrote:
    maxpare79 wrote:
    Always been calm, but now I am nervous about Elite Dangerous rift support lol, and itching to upgrade my system but disappointed that the release dates of Pascal, Polaris, zen, etc...are so far away...

    Yep, the ED news is a bit worrying... I guess a lot of people are going to be looking even more closely at the Hive release price now.

    I guess you are not one of them... it's called the VIVE! lol :lol:

    Oops!!!! :lol:
  • sabyyysabyyy Posts: 33
    Brain Burst
    Good for you guys waiting in excitement. Still not available for me...
    At least they'll come and connect my dark cave on the electric network next week so something to be happy about..
    BTW do I buy one 60 watt light bulb or 100 watt? What are the pros and cons?
    Actually I am writing this message with smoke signs hacked on the nearest hub where the net is available.
  • BloodletBloodlet Posts: 735
    3Jane
    I'm calm now...Sure I had a knee jerk rant due to sticker shock but that was after I had already preordered.

    I've been waiting and saving for the CV rift for 3 years. I wasn't about to let a little cold sweat stop me from clicking the purchase button.

    I won't be getting my CV1 until May but am still excitedly waiting for March 28th to be able to play all those games I've missed since the SDK split. As long as the SDK 1.0 supports the DK2 as promised I'll be fine for a couple of months. ;)

    I haven't upgraded my SDK since 0.6 as I love ED but if ED doesn't have full support for the SDK 1.0 my ships will just stay docked. There's alot more coming to be enjoyed. It's still a shame as I have full lifetime subscription for ED. Sacrifices have to be made though. :?
  • VizionVRVizionVR Posts: 3,022
    Wintermute
    "If you look at your reflection in the bottom of a well,
    What you see is only on the surface.
    When you try to see the meaning, hidden underneath,
    The measure of the depth can be deceiving.
    The bottom has a rocky reputation."

    -Joe Walsh, The Confessor
    Not a Rift fanboi. Not a Vive fanboi. I'm a VR fanboi. Get it straight.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,152 Volunteer Moderator
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  • willstewillste Posts: 675
    Brain Burst
    Putting aside the point the Palmer made some statements that mislead us about the price, he made a fair point after that.

    In order to run these you have to have at least an entry level high end video card. The kind of people that build the $1000 plus PC that can run this device are not going to be deterred by and extra $200.

    I feel like with PC's many of us tend to get component price syndrome, where even though our total rig cost may be $1500 dollars, it never feels that painful because we never buy a single component or peripheral that costs more than $300.

    CPU $300
    Graphics Card $300
    Big SSD $300
    gaming keyboard $100
    Decent Monitor $300
    gaming mouse $50
    .
    .
    .
    the list goes on, it seems like most of us prefer for all of our sub components to cost under $400-$500, but by the time we have maintained our rig with upgrade every 1-2 years, the cost really adds up.

    $600 is the cheapest high quality VR has ever been and its awesome.
  • Tim74UKTim74UK Posts: 1,369
    Nexus 6
    VizionVR wrote:
    "If you look at your reflection in the bottom of a well,
    What you see is only on the surface.
    When you try to see the meaning, hidden underneath,
    The measure of the depth can be deceiving.
    The bottom has a rocky reputation."

    -Joe Walsh, The Confessor

    One of my all time Favorite Albums!

    That along with

    Jeff Beck - Guitar Shop and ACDC Highway to Hell!! :)
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  • DarcanisDarcanis Posts: 446
    Art3mis
    Calm... Sure...

    Highly annoyed and forced to postpone buying for a undetermined amount of time due to costing upwards of $1100 Canadian in total after all charges.. Yes..

    I could buy 3x 970s for that price! Lol

    Damn Canadian dollar!!
    Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling!
    Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!
    The dead rising from the grave!
    Facebook buying the Oculus Rift!
    Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
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