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Looks as though it's not just the Oculus launch that's been a mess...

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  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,158
    Wintermute
    edited April 2016
    Repeat after me: logistics is hard.

    Both companies will sort out their problems, and then start shipping en masse. But there were always going to be problems in the first few days as they worked through issues in systems they'd never used before.
  • KBKKBK Posts: 983
    Art3mis
    edited April 2016
    One requires seasoned logistics professionals to be in place at the planning stages, otherwise it gets messy.

    The one basic thing that comes out of logistics issues, is...going in... never trust the logistics of any part of your supply and delivery chain, in any part of it's flow. Never. You can be screwed by a simple screw, in multiple ways.

    You have to have back up plans in place for just a simple screw, in all of the myriad ways it integrates with your total reach in your entire complex operational chain.

    Yes, logistics is hard.
    Intelligence... is not inherent - it is a point in understanding. Q: When does a fire become self sustaining?
  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    True. But this is HTC. A company way larger than Oculus with years of experience in global product launches.
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,158
    Wintermute
    notsram said:
    True. But this is HTC. A company way larger than Oculus with years of experience in global product launches.
    Do they actually sell directly to customers, though? I'd have thought most of their experience would be in shipping container-loads of phones to distributors or retailers.
  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    Whether they sell directly or not, they're surely large enough to be able to handle it? They sell millions of handsets on pre-order, so should be able to handle a couple of hundred thousands Vives :)
  • EliteSPAEliteSPA Posts: 1,560
    Project 2501
    I think the biggest problem for both companys apart from the oculus misterious component is the CC fraud and banks to refuse to pay ... But why doesnt happen when samsung released the s7? there was only a delay of 20 days. So many Vive orders have been cancelled too.
    Give me a time machine and send me to July 2016 :p
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  • notsramnotsram Posts: 1,238
    Wintermute
    EliteSPA said:
    I think the biggest problem for both companys apart from the oculus misterious component is the CC fraud and banks to refuse to pay ... But why doesnt happen when samsung released the s7? there was only a delay of 20 days. So many Vive orders have been cancelled too.
    Give me a time machine and send me to July 2016 :p
    There were plenty of stocks of the S7 around launch. I ordered my Edge a couple of days after the launch. It arrived the next day.
  • przecinekprzecinek Posts: 596
    Nexus 6
    edited April 2016
    Unfortunately I got caught in that s***storm and can confirm it's utter mess for EU ;);)

    Again, no wonder Vive didn't want to have their own forum.

    The problem are not delays, that's already something I'm used to thanks to the Rift launch lol ;) But it's the payment processing which seems to be a total fail. I contacted my bank beforehand to make sure money will be taken from my account no problem, and they were. I was charged ...but the payment was not fully processed anyway. If HTC doesn't authorize the payment my bank told me they will return me my money on the 8th of April. After that who knows what to do, who to call. Will next person in line take my spot? Should I wait to be re-charged? Their support seems to give every person a different answer.

    Then, there's problem of Vives being delivered not with express but some kind of 7 day money-saver service. TBH that's outrageous considering HTC is charging way more than Rift for the shipment... Obviously I'm not even hoping they will refund my shipping charge they way Oculus did.

    P.S Also you can't change your payment method / payment details the way you can change them with the Rift. So if you happen to lose you CC or someone steals your wallet - you're kind of screwed.

  • ChassitChassit Posts: 178
    Art3mis
    LOL. Good guy Oculus treating Americans and Europeans equally.

    New conspiracy theory: Sony bought out all Fresnel lenses on the wild.

    Or if Sony drops the ball also, there must be something in the VR space that some higher force really doesn't want us humans to see.
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,158
    Wintermute
    edited April 2016
    When I ordered my Vive, the $10 'balanced on the hump of a three-legged camel' shipping was the only option offered.  I think it said 6-8 days for delivery.
  • ChassitChassit Posts: 178
    Art3mis
    @edmg 6-8 days from your local dispatch to your home...
  • edmgedmg Posts: 1,158
    Wintermute
    Three-legged camels are not very fast. And you have to keep picking the box up and balancing it on their hump whenever it falls off.
  • Kalec84Kalec84 Posts: 574
    Trinity
    edited April 2016
    Chassit said:
    LOL. Good guy Oculus treating Americans and Europeans equally.

    New conspiracy theory: Sony bought out all Fresnel lenses on the wild.

    Or if Sony drops the ball also, there must be something in the VR space that some higher force really doesn't want us humans to see.
    The borg doesn't want us to advance with our tecnology and VR is the first step towards holodek, teleport, interstallar travel and chocolate that doesn't make you fat u.u
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