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Is there any way to adjust focus?

soopytwistsoopytwist Posts: 54
Brain Burst
Every single VR game I've played has been slightly out of focus. I don't mean the blur you get if your eyes are not dead centre on the lenses I mean the HMD is in the right place on my head and I've adjusted the slider switch underneath for the lens spacing but still all the games are very slightly out of focus and the only way I've found to fix it is to pull the HMD away from my face slightly but obviously I can't hold it out there. If I adjust the strap to make it tighter it just pulls the HMD into my face more which makes no difference (other than marking my face for the next two hours after taking it off). There doesn't appear to be a way to pull it out away from my face and hold it there. If I make the top strap looser the HMD just slides down my face and then I get that blurring problem because my eyes aren't in the right place.

Text has always been a major issue, especially small text. I've given up reading the comic books in Wilson's Heart because I just can't read the words properly unless I put the pages right in front of my face and even then it's still out of focus.

I'm short-sighted and need glasses for driving but I don't need glasses for using a standard PC monitor or reading a book. Anyway I tried wearing my glasses with the Rift and it made no difference (other than being a pain in the arse putting it on and taking it off).

Is there any other way to adjust focus? Maybe some tweak or config setting in the files or something? - in the absence of a mechanical adjustment (such as the lens distance slider).

I've had my Rift since May and have never been able to get anything to look sharp and clear so I've just had to put up with it.

I recall when I originally set up my Rift seeing a green cross and adjusting the position of the HMD on my face and using the slider underneath to get the cross in focus. I don't appear to be able to do that again, not that it made much difference anyway. The vertical line of the cross was always fine but the horizontal never was.





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  • ColinBColinB Posts: 236
    Nexus 6
    Feeling for you there.
    Seems by reading your post that is appears to be your eyesight rather than the usual "blurry resolution".
    There are some posts on this Forum concerning spectacles and wearers of such.
    Maybe hunt about and PM them?.
    One would think there must be an answer for you so you can enjoy your purchase.
    Maybe some stencil or cutout that can be placed on the headset to position it further away?
    Vaguely remember something somewhere here about that?
    Check it out and all the best to get things un-blurry !
    I hope so .

  • RichooalRichooal Posts: 1,250
    Wintermute
    edited August 2017

    I recall when I originally set up my Rift seeing a green cross and adjusting the position of the HMD on my face and using the slider underneath to get the cross in focus. I don't appear to be able to do that again, not that it made much difference anyway. The vertical line of the cross was always fine but the horizontal never was.

    You can repeat this part of the setup any time you like.

    While wearing the HMD, in Oculus Home....
    Press the "Oculus" button on your Right Touch Controller to bring up the Menu.
    On the right side of the screen, there is a pair of linked circles.
    Click on that to redo the positioning of the mask and the lens spacing.

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  • ThatTechGuyThatTechGuy Posts: 66
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited August 2017
    this guy reviews a product that might help get the rift a little further from your face. if it does not help you then try stripping the padding off your insert and replace it with something a little thicker. best of luck.
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  • johnco61johnco61 Posts: 48
    Brain Burst
    I don't know why your glasses don't help, other than for reading if you need glasses in the real world then you need them in the Rift
  • Mot666Mot666 Posts: 87
    Hiro Protagonist
    I would be interested to see how the long facial interface from VR Cover helps with the blurry problem, as I too am a little blurry in my Rift, and its much better if i hold the HMD away from my face a little. I was trying to find specs on how much longer it is than the stock one, but no luck.
  • ThatTechGuyThatTechGuy Posts: 66
    Hiro Protagonist
    I would hold the headset away from your face and have a second person take measurements of how far you need to be away from the sensor then look up different foam pads that you can replace it with. this would probably be cheaper than spending $29.99 on something you aren't sure about.  good luck
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  • leppard2leppard2 Posts: 53
    Hiro Protagonist
    Hi I had a problem with it being overly blurry to and text hard to read, i noticed in oculus home settings that it showed USB 2 and not three, so i updated drivers and it changes to usb 3 and the picture was much sharper.
    Maybe that could be the problem.
     

  • soopytwistsoopytwist Posts: 54
    Brain Burst
    Thanks for all your suggestions, I'll try some of these out like a replacement foam. My HMD is USB 3.0 and so is one of my front facing sensors (the right one). The other front facing sensor and the one behind me are both USB 2.0 but only because they're on extensions (with repeaters), otherwise everything is plugged into USB 3.0 ports on my PC with has an Asus X99 Deluxe II in it.

    What I can't fathom is why if I need glasses for distance I need them for Rift, since it's right there in my face. If I needed glasses for close up then yes I would assume I need to wear them for the Rift.

    I'll keep experimenting I guess. I also need to find out what the distance is between my pupils, see if that setting is correct.
  • leppard2leppard2 Posts: 53
    Hiro Protagonist
    edited September 2017
    Have you run the oculus compatibility tool ? as for glasses i need to use for distance too but they wont fit in the rift and its also too easy to scratch the rift lenses, so I sometimes use contacts and there is a difference, the rest of the time i use without, even though its a bit blurry.

    Its important to use the lenses spacing green cross to get in the right position and also a lot of adjusting of the headset to get in the right place, i spent ages moving the headset up and down and side to side to get it in the right spot.
    Maybe its a little to high or low or maybe pointing up a bit to much, It took me a while to get the headset in the right place.
  • 74Loki74Loki Posts: 31
    Brain Burst
    What I can't fathom is why if I need glasses for distance I need them for Rift, since it's right there in my face. If I needed glasses for close up then yes I would assume I need to wear them for the Rift.

    If you need glasses for distance then you will need them in rift. The lenses are set up for people with 20/20 vision. Just because it's right in front of your face doesn't mean you see it right in front of your face. The lenses in your rift are a pretty complicated, and fascinating, type of lens that bend light to trick your eyes into seeing "virtually". Just google something like, "How VR works" and you can read some much more in depth description of how it works. Your glasses essentially do the same thing that the lenses in your rift do but only in a much more simple way, they bend the light to compensate for your own lenses weaknesses. There are companies that make prescription inserts for rift. I got mine from WidMo VR https://widmovr.com/product/oculus-rift-prescription-lenses-adapter/ for $65 US and they make a huge difference. Before even when I would wear my glasses in rift things were somewhat blurry, not to mention the discomfort of them smashed into my face.
  • soopytwistsoopytwist Posts: 54
    Brain Burst
    I got the green cross to look as sharp as I possibly could - although since it's bright green it has a certain amount of bloom to it which can make it difficult to gauge just how sharp it is. I managed this by adjusting the top strap. The result is clearer text in my games, the downside is head pain after about half an hour because the strap is so tight
  • leppard2leppard2 Posts: 53
    Hiro Protagonist
    I had the same experience with the green cross and the head pain.
    I have the side straps as lose as i can get and have the top fairly tight , with the back triangle fairly high. 
    I had to get VR cover face plate as it was so uncomfortable and was digging in to my face , it is better with it but not 100% maybe 80%  , I almost gave up and thought about selling it but i just learn to live with it if I want to have VR .

    Maybe the next rift, if there is one will be more comfortable.
  • lensmandavelensmandave Posts: 301
    Trinity
    leppard2 said:
    I had the same experience with the green cross and the head pain.
    I have the side straps as lose as i can get and have the top fairly tight , with the back triangle fairly high. 
    I had to get VR cover face plate as it was so uncomfortable and was digging in to my face , it is better with it but not 100% maybe 80%  , I almost gave up and thought about selling it but i just learn to live with it if I want to have VR .

    Maybe the next rift, if there is one will be more comfortable.
    You should really have the back triangle low down over your head so that the 'bump' at the base of your skull is taking the Rift's weight. That way you don't need to tighten the side straps much. 
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  • Protocol7Protocol7 Posts: 317
    Trinity
    Yep, in the past I made the mistake of having the back triangle too high. Loosen all the straps and make the back triangle sit as low as possible, adjust the front tilt of the headset and then start tightening the straps.
  • soopytwistsoopytwist Posts: 54
    Brain Burst
    Looks like I still need to play around with it. The downside is handing it over for others to wear and then having to re-adjust the damn thing again.
  • leppard2leppard2 Posts: 53
    Hiro Protagonist
    Looks like I still need to play around with it. The downside is handing it over for others to wear and then having to re-adjust the damn thing again.
    Yea i'm just not letting anyone on it lol to much hassle to set it up again. 
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