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The Pimax 8K MEGA Thread - First Reviews Now live

Shadowmask72
Honored Visionary
I've been on the fence about this and have some reservations about build quality and performance under heavy load, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives and I guess many others feel the same way. Now I never backed the Rift during its Kickstarter campaign (unfortunately) but I assume the feeling is similar where you're helping to forge the future of VR in some way, or at least like to think so. I consider myself an enthusiast and not the majority, therefore what's another £600 to experience the latest  in VR. Sadly, having Samsung not release the Odyssey here in the UK left me with an itchy wallet finger, a void that needed filling and with GO not releasing until next year either I thought the Pimax 8K will scratch the itch and might just prove to be pretty good too. I'm excited for it.

There is always going to be skepticism and no doubt a number of people will suggest I am backing a paperweight but, that's ok it's fully understandable to have those feelings and that prediction is always a possibility. But... if someone doesn't take the risk and we all play it safe, how can VR move forwards - I guess we've already taken risks with past VR investments in some way or another including with the Rift. I've never claimed any loyalty to anyone having owned The Gear VR (still have that knocking around somewhere) DK2, Vive, Rift, PSVR and come next year Pimax will be added to the list. However, I am interested like many of you agreed in the poll we did here a while back that certain things were important to improve on what we have now and it seems the Pimax 8K is offering some of those things on paper. 

I think once you can look past the silly marketing name (8K) and the hammerhead shark design and focus on what's inside, this HMD offers something many claimed they would like in the past but are not prepared to trust Pimax to deliver. I think a number of people would rather wait for a more established company (like Oculus) to offer a similar experience further down the line. All very understandable. But I am impatient, and whilst I use my Rift quite often I want more of what VR can offer sooner rather than later. 

So, (and the main reason for this post) is come Feb 2018 some point in 2018 I will gladly post impressions and comparisons without hyperbole and answer questions any of you might have. That said, I expect many others at the time will post their impressions also so there should be plenty of opinions going around from various sources.


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kojack
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I guess you need to hope that they will sell another $800,000 in 9 days otherwise you won't get eye tracking. 🙂

(I never liked the idea of stretch goals for hardware projects. It only makes sense with software)
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Zenbane
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Shadowmask72 said:

I fully understand the skepticism towards Pimax and Kickstarter, but where's the fun if there is no risk!  And if those words do come back to haunt me, then so be it.



I see it as more of a Casino style gamble than the type of Risk that comes with being truly dedicated to a business initiative. You take a monetary gamble in order to help entrepreneurs like the Pimax staff avoid real Risk. For example...

Once upon a time the "risk" that entrepreneurs took involved committing years of hard work and dedication towards a dream that may or may not yield any profits. It was risky because after years of hard work the end result may be either failure or success. And naturally, success in industry is very closely tied to financial gains.

Today we have "crowd funding" which attempts to avoid that risk. Kickstarter lets people simply market all the hard work that they "plan to do." Kickstarter lets people create a infomercial video that showcases how things could be in the future if only people will give them money now. In this way... people get to skip the hard work and get the money first; Risk Avoidance is achieved.

Maybe I'm a bit too old-fashioned, but crowd funding campaigns seem to avoid true risk; it puts the beans above the frank, na' mean?

I still think it's cool that you took the financial gamble, buddy! But you said it yourself in your first post: you had the extra funds and no other HMD is coming down the pipe soon. So you basically took the gamble with some throw-away funds. That's always fun! 
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Zenbane
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I'm not sure how Pimax crowd funding is related to the Acer/StarVR connection at all. Both Acer and StarVR had a joint venture since last year, but it was more equal in terms of shares. Acer has simply increased their investment and taken more control of StarVR's IP. Acer increased their investment to 5 million on top of what they were already investing.

And it looks like Acer plans to use the StarVR HMD for more commercial use:
Our games and related premium VR experiences will primarily use the StarVR headset for location-based VR centers

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/acer-invests-5-million-into-starbreeze-vr-headset-w510009


I don't see what any of this has to do with Pimax and crowd funding directly.

Thmoas
Rising Star
I actually would really like a Chamelon simulator. I wonder how my brain will adapt to this and whether after some practice I would actually see a usable huge 2D FOV.

kojack
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StarVR has been in the works since at least august 2013 (back then it was called Infiniteye, before Starbreeze bought it)
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Steve30x
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kojack said:
Running the CV1 at pixel density of 2.0 is already higher pixel count than the Pimax 8K X.

Pimax 8K X - 3840x2160x2 = 16.5MP.
CV1 at 2.0 - 2664x3172x2 = 16.9MP.



The screen door effect will still be there with the CV1 though. With the PiMax 8K the screen door effect will be almost completely gone.

Shadowmask72
Honored Visionary
Funny you mention Casino gamble check this out. Odds stacked well in favour of the house and then some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLnRr6NVUms

Anyhow Pimax has just released a V3 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM6Z-kS7CWY




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sdplayer
Expert Protege
I was gonna wait until CV2 was released in the hope Oculus would have ironed out all the problems with CV1 but that 200 degree FOV seems too tempting to pass by (though I'd be just as happy with 160 and its accompanying increase in clarity). If Oculus had delivered its original promise of 110 I'd have been satisfied with that and never looked at another headset until CV2.

My real concern with the Pimax unit is compatibility with existing software. I know they have stated their headset will work with Oculus games (via a third party application) but I want to make sure that turns out to be true (Oculus don't do something to block it) before I lay down my cash.

That's why I'll be paying close attention to your review of the 8K unit while monitoring the software situation for a month or two should the headset ever see consumer release! 

Zenbane
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I can't believe Pimax hit their goal and they are still releasing marketing videos using some dude's phone lol

I do like that they chose the song, Stand By Me. But uh... I'm not sure if they saw the movie. 'Cause it's about innocent boys who encounter a dead body and a marsh full of leeches
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Zenbane said:


I can't believe Pimax hit their goal and they are still releasing marketing videos using some dude's phone lol

I do like that they chose the song, Stand By Me. But uh... I'm not sure if they saw the movie. 'Cause it's about innocent boys who encounter a dead body and a marsh full of leeches
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I literally lol'd (lolled?) at the video.

Hope it all turns out nice though.  If it's amazing, of course i'll buy it, but i won't be "backing it".
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