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Is there a list of incompatible PC components on the forums?

UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
Nexus 6
I’ve searched but can’t turn up anything except for case by case situations. I want to be sure I’m getting the best and most compatible bang for my buck.

My spending limit is $1,800 total. I know I want a GTX 1080 Ti, i7700 processor, 16 gigs of ram but not sure about the best mobo, usb hub brand and model that are the most compatible with oculus rift. I’ve had issues in the past with certain components and want to avoid going through that again. Any help is greatly appreciated! 

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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator
    edited December 2017

    You may have a tricky task there @USBERD, very often incompatibilities come from combinations of hardware, or hardware and particular drivers... drivers & versions of Windows... or any of the above.


    But for what it's worth, I've updated my hardware info (and Windows version) in my signature and can confirm I've never had a problem right from day one of receiving the Rift (April 2016)... none whatsoever. Also had an Asus X99 Deluxe mobo before the ASRock, also with no problems. If you get enough similar info, you should get a good idea of what to get.

    Intel 5820K [email protected], Titan X (Maxwell), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4, ASRock X99 Taichi, Samsung 500Gb 960 Evo M.2, Corsair H100i v2 Cooler, Inateck KTU3FR-4P USB 3 card, Windows 10 Pro v1903 (18363.476)
  • cyberealitycybereality Posts: 26,156 Oculus Staff
    No, I don't believe there is a list available. Probably the most important thing to consider would be the motherboard (in terms of compatibility), assuming you are already getting a new CPU and GPU that are supported. Originally there were some issues with ASMedia USB controllers (found on Asus, MSI boards and others), but a driver update has mostly resolved this. The best bet would be to search the motherboard model number on Google, i.e. "Asus X99 Deluxe Oculus" and see if other people are using the board successfully.
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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    Thanks for the input Cyber and Daftndirect! I’m not sure where I can see your signature Daft? I click on your name but I don’t see the specs. 
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator
    UBSERD said:
    Thanks for the input Cyber and Daftndirect! I’m not sure where I can see your signature Daft? I click on your name but I don’t see the specs. A
    It's the greyed text at the bottom of my posts, hopefully it's displayed ok in your browser.
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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    I usually visit the forums on my phone and never realized that there were signatures at the bottom. I just viewed it on the PC and lo and behold there they are. Thanks a lot I appreciate it.

    I’m thinking of mimicking your pc and the only differences that I would do would be windows pro would probably be home version 1709 and the Titan X would be replaced with a GTX 1080 TI. That should work right? Also does the bios version matter at all?

     The thing is I’m taking these specs to a shop to have them build it because I am not computer savvy enough to build my own PC or the patience to learn how. 

     Thank you again for your helpful input .
  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    @Daftndirect Also would this machines spec benefit at all if I upgraded the intel 5820K with the intel 7700, or could that cause compatibility issues with the specs you provided? Thanks!
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator

    A few people seem to have reported stutters with the 1080ti and Core 2.0 which I don't understand as it's more powerful than my older Titan, but I don't know what other hardware they have as they seldom post all their specs.


    Also there are many other possibly contributors to lower performance such as HDD issues, other tasks running in the background... USB power management settings etc.


    Anyway, I've not had to work hard at getting settings right and I always keep my BIOS up to date and graphics drivers so have used many different versions without issue. The only thing I'm strict on is disabling Windows automatic driver update as it sometimes reverts to earlier drivers without your knowledge or it simply means you lose control of what drivers are installed.


    But yeah, like Cyber says, google component use with the Rift, or check other people's signatures in the forum, many include their specs.

    Intel 5820K [email protected], Titan X (Maxwell), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4, ASRock X99 Taichi, Samsung 500Gb 960 Evo M.2, Corsair H100i v2 Cooler, Inateck KTU3FR-4P USB 3 card, Windows 10 Pro v1903 (18363.476)
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator
    UBSERD said:
    @Daftndirect Also would this machines spec benefit at all if I upgraded the intel 5820K with the intel 7700, or could that cause compatibility issues with the specs you provided? Thanks!

    The 7700k is faster than my 5820k for sure. The only issue I'd have is the number of PCI-E lanes it has which affects the performance or number of add-ons. A single graphics card for instance wants 16 of those lanes, full speed SLI will want double, M.2 drive etc. all start eating into those lanes. The 5820 has 28 lanes, the 7700 has 16 (I think???). I'm looking for a 40 lane CPU as my possible future upgrade.


    But that doesn't mean that a 7700 with a single 1080ti and SATA drive wouldn't perform flawlessly.

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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    Ok thanks for the help.  I was trying to tell the guy at the PC shop how hard it is to make oculus work right and he couldn’t believe it. He was saying oh I’ll just get VR compatible pc components and I said no it goes a little deeper than that. I told him that I would try to get some input from others on the forums to see if maybe I can figure something out but it seems kind of like a crapshoot. The only PCs and laptops that are guaranteed it seems are the ones they sell at Best Buy through Oculus but they are way under powered, overpriced and will be obsolete way before what I’m trying to build. This thing should be plug and play without all the issues. It’s sad. I guess I’ll have to do research then but I’m afraid I’ll screw up somewhere in selecting the components but what else can I do?
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator
    I would just ask more people to post here their full specs and then see where you are. My PC is basically 2 years old now and copes with everything I throw at it, VR or not, so I'd say there's a good chance that most new gaming PCs, would be fine.

    OK people, post you problem-free VR specs here... @UBSERD will give you each an awesome!!!
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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
     Oh yes I will and then some. Thank you so much daftndirect!!
  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    Ok, here are my specs:

    CPU - I7-3960x (3.5 Ghz, 6 cores, hyperthreaded, 40 PCIe lanes)
    Motherboard - Intel DX79SI  (LGA2011 chipset)
    Memory - 16Gb DDR3 ram (clocked 1600 or something like that)
    Video - ASUS STRIX GTX1060 (6GB)
    Inateck 4 port USB3 card

    My CPU/memory/motherboard combo is proof positive you do not need the latest hardware to run an Oculus system well.  I have zero problems, none, zippo.  This hardware is 6 years old now but it really hauls timber.

    Clearly my bottleneck is the graphics card and while I would love to have a 1080Ti, no way I can drop $800 on that right now.  The GTX1060 at least gets me into the deep end of the pool, but supersampling will be limited in demanding games.
  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    edited December 2017
    Thank you @Rob_In_Phoenix for adding your specs.
  • Rob_In_PhoenixRob_In_Phoenix Posts: 344
    Trinity
    @UBSERD : getting back to your previous question about hardware compatibility with VR, this community has a very wide range of hardware that works fine with the Rift.  There are CPU's/motherboards from many generations that work well.

    It's hard to predict exactly how any single individual system will do but most appear to do fine.  I wouldn't even worry too much about motherboards with flaky on-board USB.  You can buy a USB expansion card to take care of this - and with your budget, it should be no problem.

    Even the 4 port Startech card will only set you back about $80.  This single card will likely solve any issues you may encounter and will handle all the heavy lifting for the sensors.

    In short, the 1080Ti, 7700k, and 16 GB ram puts you in the sweet spot.  Just remember to disable the crappy integrated graphics on the 7700K.

    As far as motherboard, you're probably fine with any decent brand.  Generally you get what you pay for so keep that in mind.

    As @DaftnDirect mentioned, a quick internet search will reveal your best bets.  Don't worry too much, you're not trying thread a needle here.
  • cyberealitycybereality Posts: 26,156 Oculus Staff
    Yeah, probably most modern motherboards will work out-of-box and, worst case, you buy the add-on card.
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  • zork2001zork2001 Posts: 544
    Trinity


    As far as motherboard, you're probably fine with any decent brand.  Generally you get what you pay for so keep that in mind.


    I don't know about that, they are mostly just adding features, most of witch you never use
  • Orodreth16Orodreth16 Posts: 65
    Hiro Protagonist
    zork2001 said:
    As far as motherboard, you're probably fine with any decent brand.  Generally you get what you pay for so keep that in mind.
    I don't know about that, they are mostly just adding features, most of witch you never use
    Hehe, yeah, I'm using a MSI H110M pro-d. It costs around 45 EUR and gets the job done.
    I admit that it's a bit short on USB-ports, though. I use a hub for my input devices.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,222 Volunteer Moderator
    There are some great features on top boards that I've found super useful... LED debug code displays, backup BIOS and switches rather than jumpers, shielded audio components. Some of it kind of depends how much tinkering you do.
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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    Thanks to all for the input and the slight easing of my mind. I was just so afraid of making a misstep in my selection of these parts for good reason. A very expensive one. I’m going to have a meeting with a new PC shop on the Tuesday after Christmas so now I’m a little more educated thanks to you guys. I just want a machine that I can run my Rift without constant headaches. I’ve had to put up with PSVR lately which is good, but let’s face it it’s no Rift and Touch
  • cyberealitycybereality Posts: 26,156 Oculus Staff
    edited December 2017
    The more expensive boards definitely can have better advanced features, but I've found sometimes even cheap boards can be as good or better for general use. Case in point, I got a $80 B350 board for my HTPC. It boots in like 5 seconds (by the time the projector is on, it's already in Windows). And I have a $300 X370 board that can take 10 seconds to boot. Originally it took 45 seconds, but BIOS updates cut it to more like 10. But, at launch, there was a huge difference (5 seconds versus 45 seconds) and I kind of wondered what I spent $300 for.
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  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    edited December 2017
    Thanks Cybereality. I’m wondering if it may be best to buy a mobo with a return policy so that way if it seems to cause issues I can always trade it up. So from what Daftndirect was saying I’d probably want a motherboard with more pci-e lanes than less?
  • cyberealitycybereality Posts: 26,156 Oculus Staff
    If you have only 1 GPU and not a lot of drives or add-ons, you probably won't have to worry about the lanes.
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    Gigabyte RX Vega 64 x2 | Samsung 960 Evo M.2 500GB | Seagate FireCuda SSHD 2TB | Phanteks ENTHOO EVOLV
  • UBSERDUBSERD Posts: 349
    Nexus 6
    Ok cool, thanks man!
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