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Would a bigger television get me back into Pancake gaming?

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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    Digikid1 said:
    Grab a Xbox One X. Best console around and it is the best 4K HDR player as well. For a TV like that anything else will be unworthy. 

    Also get that tv off the floor!!!!  LOL

    In a week or two one of my friends will bring his Xbox One X and we'll test it thoroughly - looking forward to that :)

    Due to its size the TV works great on the floor (at least for now), I don't have to look up too much B) Had a 42" on a stand before - but the 85" is about 10" taller (with no stand). 
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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    Yea all of the consoles are little more than false advertising on the 4k. The Xbox one X does run a few older titles at native 4k but the rest are upscaled. HDR isn't bad to setup on the PC if you have a late model TV which yours appears to be. It's a toggle switch and then calibrating the colors, not a big deal.
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    Digikid1 said:
    Grab a Xbox One X. Best console around and it is the best 4K HDR player as well. For a TV like that anything else will be unworthy. 

    Also get that tv off the floor!!!!  LOL

    In a week or two one of my friends will bring his Xbox One X and we'll test it thoroughly - looking forward to that :)

    Due to its size the TV works great on the floor (at least for now), I don't have to look up too much B) Had a 42" on a stand before - but the 85" is about 10" taller (with no stand). 
    I was going to add, I also have a GTX 1080 and I can run most games in 4k with 60 fps with some settings tweaks. For the most graphical/GPU heavy games you won't get 60 fps on Ultra settings but reducing aliasing and shadows and some other gpu heavy features usually gets me to 60 with no prob. The 1080TI and above are probably your true 4k 60hz cards with ultra settings. It's doubtful the PS5/Xbox will even be as powerful as a regular 1080...but they do have the advantage of a fixed hardware setup to optimize for.
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,778 Valuable Player
    edited February 3
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,061 Valuable Player
    pyroth309 said:
    Yea all of the consoles are little more than false advertising on the 4k. The Xbox one X does run a few older titles at native 4k but the rest are upscaled.
    Not entirely correct. The Xbox One X does that for the older games but all the new ones are TRUE 4K. 
  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    edited February 3
    Digikid1 said:
    pyroth309 said:
    Yea all of the consoles are little more than false advertising on the 4k. The Xbox one X does run a few older titles at native 4k but the rest are upscaled.
    Not entirely correct. The Xbox One X does that for the older games but all the new ones are TRUE 4K. 
    Ah it does do native 4k 30fps a lot more now, my bad. I haven't looked at it much recently. Still 30 fps...*shudder* lol.

    Here's an actual list of the HDR games on PC. As I mentioned in the other thread, results do vary, but when it works great it's awesome.


    To me, if you already own the GTX 1080 and the HDR TV, why not play around with it for yourself over waiting a year or more for a console with less Tflops than you already have? Sure, It does requires a little more configuration than consoles but most people who complain about it haven't tried the current version of Windows where it's vastly improved from the dumpster fire it used to be. It does have a ways to go to be perfect but it works. It's a toggle switch and then a couple calibration sliders (after you calibrate your TV properly which you'd have to do for consoles also) and then it's just normal calibration in each game in the options. The only game so far I had a major pain getting HDR to work right was Destiny 2 and that was due to destiny 2 itself having a bug with their setup. This article details it better than I can. https://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/destiny-2s-hdr-isnt-actually-broken-calibration-tools-misleading/

    Personally, I'm a PC user/gamer, having to configure and optimize comes with just about everything I play so it's really nothing out of the ordinary to me. But I digress and off to play more HDR games lol.

    *edit* As I mentioned in that other thread, if anyone tries to play in HDR on PC, make sure you fully update windows and if your desktop looks funky, mess with the SDR content slider until it looks good. Enjoy

    *Edit2* On a sidenote, the most unfortunate thing about "HDR" to me is the vague standard of what HDR is and this is a problem for consoles as well. I see so many TV's labeled as HDR that have like 300 nits or even less of brightness which pretty much guarantees any HDR benefits will be lost with that. A good screen is the most important thing. I hope with the new HDR10+ that's rolling out, things will be more consistent.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    edited February 9
    My slow - but free - internet connection doesn't allow for Netflix 4K streaming, but I found out that if you pay for Netflix Premium then you get HDR also in 1080p content. Tried it last night and I wasn't overly impressed. Not that it didn't work - it sure did, had me grasping for sunglasses already when the bright Netflix logo appeared. HDR does look more like normal daylight, and my new TV sure can provide an awesome amount of light, but experiencing such bright light watching movies late at night felt like too much. After checking the internet I can see that I'm not alone - even OLED users have been complaining, including that the Netflix subtitles are way too bright when using HDR  - I did experience that too. After a couple of hours I decided to downgrade my Netflix to standard HD. I'll probably buy a 4K player and enjoy true 4K + HDR in some select movies, but I don't think I need HDR on by default (without any ability to turn it off - using a Sony 4K player it should be possible to turn off HDR in Netflix though). 

    Did also try some Android gaming on the TV - because it's an Android TV. Several games didn't work, seemed like they needed some kind of low level access that couldn't be provided. Asphalt 8 did install correctly, but trying to agree to the EULA the game hung. Leo's Forune did work (felt like 60 fps), but it's in 1080p and it seems like all the TV's advanced image enhancement tech is disabled when gaming, so it just looked like 1080p blown up, but at least it worked perfectly with the Dualshock controller.


    Unfortunately several games seemed to accept the 4K resolution, but the build-in TV computer doesn't have the power to provide anywhere near 60 fps 4K gaming (of course), I think I get about 20 to 30 fps in Crossy Road:


    Bombsquad did work - again I believe in 4K, because I get like 28 fps:


    I only have one Bluetooth Dualshock controller (bought for my Sony Experia phone), and single-player in Bombsquad isn't much fun. 

    My final test was to purchase This War of Mine:


    Unfortunately - like most other games - the Dualshock controller wasn't supported (but XBox One controllers are supported) - and the game started up in 4K and that didn't work well. I probably got like 10 fps  :# The game did look great on the 85" TV though.

    So playing Android games directly on the 4K Android TV wasn't really any fun - and it may take some patience finding games that really work. My problems:

    1. Many games seem to launch in 4K requiring way more GPU power than current Android TVs provide.
    2. You'll have to use the correct Bluetooth controller, and Dualshock isn't supported correctly in most/many games.
    3. Very few Android games support Android TV - at least only 7 games seem fully supported on my TV, and several of those didn't even work well (=lack of Dualshock controller support).
    4. Several games may have other issues and may not launch, even if you're able to install them - it easily gets frustrating. 

    In short - Android gaming on 4K Android TVs may be quite limited fun, if any. For now I'll probably avoid it. For gaming on a 4K TV, I guess the only great option for now is a high-end PC (and maybe the XBox One X).

    Couldn't help but thinking - why waste my precious time on such poor phone/tablet games when I got the Rift in my man cave  :D But at least it was fun to observe and test that you can actually play some pancake games on new TVs without using external computers/consoles. Could be awesome in 10 years  B)
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    edited February 13
    It's not all roses and violets - introducing another First World problem  :#

    Although I'd swear my problems aren't at all like these  o:)










    In short - before the new TV I truly loved my 51" 3D Samsung plasma TV - we've spent countless of hours together, it has nanosecond response time - 16 ms. input lag in PC mode - and it's still ok for gaming when I sit close to it. But I just tried to watch a movie and had to stop - it felt like I was sitting in front of a 14" TV in the early 1980s. Before upgrading to 85" I had a 42" in the living room - and this happened:


    The new TV felt big - really big - and it still feels like sitting in a real cinema (back row :blush:). But after some 20 hours I've habituated to the new TV and this happened - much like it did to CRTs when I got my first large LCD TV many years ago :#


    So TVs around me are shrinking - it's incredible - much like this movie!  :D


    Recently I've been to several electronic stores, even the kids notice it, all TVs have shrunken in size, 50" feels so tiny  :( Computer monitors are ok, I guess it's because you're sitting very close to these screens, my phone is still ok too, but watching movies on smaller TVs has become a pain.  

    The take home message: be careful when buying a TV much larger than what you're already use, it may totally ruin the joy of using a smaller TV. Ok, maybe that is a First World problem  :o

    Nothing beats VR though - Rift is like an unlimited screen - no matter the size of a 2D screen I believe the Rift/VR (360 degrees) will always feel much bigger. Getting a big TV hasn't changed how much I love to watch short films in Oculus Video. When the SDE goes completely away and the HMD res can support watching true 4K movies like in a cinema, I don't think any 2D screen will be my first choice for watching movies (unless it's together with friends or/and family). But we're not there yet, although it's getting close. 
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    One of my favourite films! Land Of The Giants was a great TV series too. I downloaded and rewatched The Incredible Shrinking Man a couple of months ago! I've also downloaded The Incredible Shrinking Woman too but I haven't got around to watching it yet.
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  • WhiteSilverWORKWhiteSilverWORK Posts: 1
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    snowdog said:
    One of my favourite films! Land Of The Giants was a great TV series too. I downloaded and rewatched The Incredible Shrinking Man a couple of months ago! I've also downloaded The Incredible Shrinking Woman too but I haven't got around to watching it yet.
    Those are some great movies. Good taste!
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    edited February 16
    snowdog said:
    One of my favourite films! Land Of The Giants was a great TV series too. I downloaded and rewatched The Incredible Shrinking Man a couple of months ago! I've also downloaded The Incredible Shrinking Woman too but I haven't got around to watching it yet.
    Maybe 5 years ago I watched The Incredible Shrinking Man for the first time - I was amazed of the quality and story, it's no coincidence it's rated 7.7 on IMDB. 

    But back to big screens - yesterday, my son and I watched two episodes of Fawlty Towers on DVD (remastered/restored edition), and sadly even the Marvell QDeo chip in my blu-ray player and the Sony X1 processor had to give up - DVDs are truly DEAD on very large TVs. 

    So while this commercial may be true for 1080p and even 720p, DVDs are certainly a no-go :D


    We continued to watch some Blackadder episodes (First Season) - also on a DVD - and I found a new use for the tiny 51" plasma  :D 

    A few days ago I got Dead Cells  - had to see that Metacritic top-rated pancake game in action. Played it close to the plasma, and yes it would have been the most awesome game on my Amiga 500 in 1988, but for now it didn't get me back to 2D gaming at all. Note that with a Metacritic rating of 89, according to reviewers Dead Cells is just as good as Lone Echo  :D 



    Don't think I'll pay $40 to test Ashen - but maybe I'll give Rage 2 a go on the plasma later, because the plasma is connected to my VR rig. These are indeed the only two pancake games I'd consider playing right now:





    I doubt I'll get 60 fps in Rage 2 in 4K using my GTX 1080, testing that game later on the plasma may not be bad idea. 
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    Gave pancake gaming another try and tested Ashen. I get solid 60 fps in 1080p with maxed out (=Ultra) graphics settings (XBox One and XBox One X only support 30 fps no matter the resolution). The game still looks too soft, and I'd be surprised if 4K would make much difference in this game (textures are quite bland due to the game design). I ended up setting antialiasing to low and motion blur to off to increase sharpness, and the game did look nice. I sat 50 to 100 cm (2 to 3 feet) from my 51" plasma, so the screen did take up much of my visual field. 

    Ashen is another 3rd person action RPG where you have to hack'n slash your way through enemies. You can find many items and weapons, and quests for now consist of going to location A to find item B. It's all been done before, but the world feels fresh and unique to some extent.

    Now had Ashen been in VR, it could have been one of the best VR games ever, but now it's more a semi-mediocre pancake action RPG. The problem isn't the graphics, graphics are nice, but no matter how close I sit to the screen I don't feel present in the game. I'm outside the game. When I press a button, my in-game character does some specific movements, but it doesn't feel real. I'm not really immersed, my brain isn't being fooled to believe I'm inside the game. Even unmodified Skyrim VR is so much better than Ashen that there really isn't any comparison. 

    But try to imagine this - in VR ;)

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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    Yup, this is why flat gaming has been dead to me since I got my Rift.

    As the ladies say, once you go VR you never go flat.

    At least I think that's pretty close lol :p:D
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    Maybe we should write to the devs - "if you want to see your families again, we want this in VR, and we want 1st person!"  :D











    I guess we've got Windlands 2... Somehow... Ashen does feel much more interesting than Hellblade though. 

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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    I'd be fine if they kept it in 3rd person, 3rd person games work surprisingly well.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    edited February 17
    snowdog said:
    I'd be fine if they kept it in 3rd person, 3rd person games work surprisingly well.

    3rd person would be great too - come to think of it, I don't recall any true 3rd person action RPG on the Rift, but I may be wrong? Chronos may be close, but it's not really the same, and the environments are static. 

    Oh well, I hope I didn't just make a fool of myself by asking what may have been discussed before and by posting in the wrong category :blush:



    I don't put all my eggs in the same basket - just sent the same message directly to the devs too  o:) Now we just need all Oculus' forum members to do the same!  :D  
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,778 Valuable Player
    edited February 18
    I've got back into 2D gaming since playing Red Dead Redemption 2. I can see VR taken over 2D gaming at some point in the future, but VR needs more games that are AAA and have a good story. The stories in 2D gaming is enough to get me interested for now. I find 2D gaming is a bit like reading a book and taken part and VR hasn't stopped people reading books.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    edited February 18
    RedRizla said:
    I've got back into 2D gaming since playing Red Dead Redemption. I can see VR taken over 2D gaming at some point in the future, but VR needs more games that are AAA and have a good story. The stories in 2D gaming is enough to get me interested for now. I find 2D gaming is a bit like reading a book and taken part and VR has stopped people reading books.

    This is one of the reasons why I don't participate a lot in discussions about how upcoming HMDs like Rift S/2 should be. I don't think there's anything wrong with CV1, it's awesome, instead we need more high quality CV1 content. Personally I don't mind more ports if that's the only way - games like Hellblade, Transference, Skyrim, Elite, Obduction, DiRT, Ethan Carter and more have shown that it's possible to make great 2D games available in VR. It's a difficult balance, but Oculus should be careful not to poison the well with too many super-short low-quality CV1 indie games and apps.
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  • pyroth309pyroth309 Posts: 1,576 Valuable Player
    edited February 18
    RuneSR2 said:
    RedRizla said:
    I've got back into 2D gaming since playing Red Dead Redemption. I can see VR taken over 2D gaming at some point in the future, but VR needs more games that are AAA and have a good story. The stories in 2D gaming is enough to get me interested for now. I find 2D gaming is a bit like reading a book and taken part and VR has stopped people reading books.

    This is one of the reasons why I don't participate a lot in discussions about how upcoming HMDs like Rift S/2 should be. I don't think there's anything wrong with CV1, it's awesome, instead we need more high quality CV1 content. Personally I don't mind more ports if that's the only way - games like Hellblade, Transference, Skyrim, Elite, Obduction, DiRT, Ethan Carter and more have shown that it's possible to make great 2D games available in VR. It's a difficult balance, but Oculus should be careful not to poison the well with too many super-short low-quality CV1 indie games and apps.
    I think it's a bit of both. My main problem is the lack of clarity...but that's also because I also agree that on the whole (there are some)the game quality isn't there yet and My favorite things to do still in VR is simming. Games like Beat Saber show that the VR can be a lot of fun with what we have. 

    I still love 2d gaming because theres' so many quality titles out. The clarity is so good and the colors are so vibrant on a lot of the games I play that I find myself just sight seeing instead of playing lol. But, I've also been playing a lot of the best looking games on PC. Stuff like Ashen doesn't look that great on my rig either even though it's a great game.

    I am very interested to see what Oculus comes up with. Sony has been talking a big game about PSVR 2 and talking about how good they want PSVR to look in 10 years so if Oculus wants Rift to survive long term, they have to stay on the bleeding edge as it will always be tough to compete with a console for average users since they produce the things at a loss. I'm sure they're hoping Quest is the solution to the average user problem though. (just wish it had a newer Snapdragon in it heh)
  • nalex66nalex66 Posts: 5,047 Volunteer Moderator
    edited February 18
    RuneSR2 said:
    snowdog said:
    I'd be fine if they kept it in 3rd person, 3rd person games work surprisingly well.

    3rd person would be great too - come to think of it, I don't recall any true 3rd person action RPG on the Rift, but I may be wrong? Chronos may be close, but it's not really the same, and the environments are static. 
    Edge of Nowhere was a proper over-the-shoulder third-person Rift game that worked nicely in VR.

    I still do my share of flat gaming. I’ve been playing Fallout 76 lately, and XCOM 2 before that. My biggest problem is finding much time for gaming period, whether it’s VR or flat. I have a backlog of both types of games, and they continue to grow (just picked up Budget Cuts on sale, as well as the free and excellent Last Day Defense). 
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    Fun stuff with the white coats  :D Even though Linus made some very bad videos about VR, I think he's on to  something important in this video  B)


    Still he needs to check out 4K gaming on much bigger screens (TVs). My Sony 85" does support 120 Hz, but I don't know if that works in both 2K and 4K when gaming. And 4K 120 Hz would of course be a no go in modern games using a GTX 1080. 
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,778 Valuable Player
    @RuneSR2 - When I have enough money, I'll buy this TV and play on it using a 2k resolution & 120Hz.

    https://www.richersounds.com/tv-projectors/qled-tv/samsung-qe55q9fn.html
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    @RuneSR2 - When I have enough money, I'll buy this TV and play on it using a 2k resolution & 120Hz.

    https://www.richersounds.com/tv-projectors/qled-tv/samsung-qe55q9fn.html
    Looks like a great screen, QLED may be much better for HDR than OLED, but OLED still has better response time and true blacks. These 4K OLEDs could be quite awesome too - depending on the price:

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/01/lg-announces-its-2019-oled-tv-lineup-plus-an-8k-monstrosity/

    For now I 've come to the conclusion that my lack of interest in 2D gaming isn't cured by a bigger screen or 120+ Hz etc, I simply lack the immersion that only VR can provide. But getting a big TV certainly has fueled my passion for movies - and Netflix - I'll probably be spending more time watching movies than being in VR at least until Shadow Legend arrives ;)

    I plan to buy the PS5 when it launches. Sony TVs are really made for these consoles.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    Bloody hell, I think I'm going to buy one of these:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Linsar-65UHD520-65-Inch-4K-Ultra-HD-LED-TV-in-Black-with-3x-HDMI/143137350141

    With the discount code that's £424 :o

    May not be the best telly in the world but my last two tellies have been noname brands bought from supermarkets that I've been VERY happy with. No HDR though, but a 65" 4K at £424 you can't expect too much lol :D

    I'm going to have to move things around a bit though to fit it in my flat lmfao. My current 50" 1080p telly is sitting on top of a table next to my PC desk and it has the stand in the middle. This 65" telly has the stand parts at the left and right of the telly so I'll have to move my table to the left a bit, move my PC on my PC desk to the right a bit and then have the right hand part of the stand sitting on a book or something to make it level lololol :o:D

    Just pulled the trigger on it B)
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    It's out of stock now, glad I managed to bag one in time! B)
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 3,971 Valuable Player
    snowdog said:
    It's out of stock now, glad I managed to bag one in time! B)

    Looking forward to hear about your gaming experiences in 4K :) As a PC monitor 65" 4K should be awesome - not just for gaming, Office/Word has never looked that crisp before  :D (actually I'm quite serious!)
    I've deactivated HDR for now, it was too bright - I don't want daylight at night... So don't worry about that ;)
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    I probably won't be using it for gaming tbh, all of my gaming is done in VR these days. It's going to be great for when I get my arse in gear and start working on my game again. B)
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

    Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,153 Valuable Player
    I also forgot to mention that I've bought a dodgy aerial from an ad on Facebook. It claims that all Sky and BT channels are broadcast like normal TV channels but you need either a provider box or this special aerial to watch them, a normal TV aerial isn't powerful enough.

    Probably a big con but at half price it was £20 so worth a punt just to see if it's legit or not lol
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

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  • ohgrantohgrant Posts: 203
    Nexus 6
    edited February 25
    snowdog said:
    I also forgot to mention that I've bought a dodgy aerial from an ad on Facebook. It claims that all Sky and BT channels are broadcast like normal TV channels but you need either a provider box or this special aerial to watch them, a normal TV aerial isn't powerful enough.

    Probably a big con but at half price it was £20 so worth a punt just to see if it's legit or not lol
    Aerial= Antennae right? Sounds like he is talking about free to air. I think it's like our system over here. VHF is no longer used but UHF is. You'll be amazed at how much farther a digital signal travels, you'll pick up stations you never though you could. You will also probably notice a much crisper picture and better sound than the same stations from your provider because no signal degradation at all. If that doesn't work for you, try a better signal amplifier. The higher the db the better.  
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