04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-15-2019 12:35 AM
04-15-2019 01:35 AM
04-15-2019 02:14 AM
Luciferous said:I joined here the day the forum opened back in March 2013
04-15-2019 02:37 AM
you two make me feel like a youngster, that's an achievement in itself
kojack said:
Luciferous said:I joined here the day the forum opened back in March 2013
Damn, you beat me by 1 hour 11 min. 🙂
04-15-2019 03:30 AM
KoBak07 said:
To me having Lenovo to drive the development of the product is to me a big surprise. Why would a company like Oculus with their depth and experience dump this on a team, which has only brought to market products considered "junk" from a PCVR standpoint?
04-15-2019 03:46 AM
Zenbane said:
inovator said:snowdog said:If you think for even a split second that Oculus won't release the Half Dome prototype as a consumer headset until 2025-2028 then you're insane. Seriously
I was answering the insane accusation as you can see. Calling people insane is different than saying people are in denial. Your very selective of what you say is insulting. We all are in denial about something from time to time. I have told my kids if they are in denial for something. I wouldn't tell them they are insane. LolI wasn't picking sides, and I wasn't sure who you were referring to as being in denial to be honest. I saw that Mradr and snowdog were posting a lot and I skim read their stuff. I figured it was one of them you might be referring to. I don't consider either of them to be in denial. I've had a lot of debates with Mradr, and while I think he is "biased" at times (but lets face it, we are all biased), I wouldn't say he is in denial. Samesies for snowdog. Both of these posters have different perspectives, and both perspectives are quite valid because both perspectives stem from valid positions that both Facebook and Oculus have openly taken in the past year.So again, it is not about being in denial (at least not in this situation). It's about different perspectives.
04-15-2019 04:30 AM
kojack said:
Luciferous said:I joined here the day the forum opened back in March 2013
Damn, you beat me by 1 hour 11 min. 🙂
04-15-2019 04:32 AM
KoBak07 said:
I still feel that they are shooting way under to in the PCVR space. Or to use your argument, they are only shooting for what is now the bottom of the VR space, spec wise. I would argue that graphics processing power has increased quite a bit since the initial Gen 1 launch, but they are still holding the line for that level of target specs.
IMO, if companies stop innovation, not pushing the envelope any further, then what's the point. The level of immersion with the current gen screens, the low FOV is all immersion breaking. I still argue, that the barrier to greater adoption is actually the fact that the tech they are pushing in Gen 1 is not good enough for people to spend money on, since the viewing experience / quality much worse than 1080p / 4K regular screens.
04-15-2019 04:42 AM
KoBak07 said:The main difference is that Oculus already has been selling what I would consider a top of the line Gen 1 product, while Valve did not release a product of their own, rather looked for a partner out of the box to start their product lines. So I view this as going from the benchmark of the cutting edge to a product produced by a partner that is a "mediocre" player in the VR space.
Also, Lenovo might be a profitable company on the PC side, but I would argue that they have not set the world on fire with design or performance.
04-15-2019 04:46 AM
KoBak07 said:I still feel that they are shooting way under to in the PCVR space. Or to use your argument, they are only shooting for what is now the bottom of the VR space, spec wise.