04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-15-2019 11:38 AM
04-15-2019 11:41 AM
CrashFu said:
Some rich kid might spend a ton of money on some over-hyped, flashy-looking, celebrity-endorsed Headphones and think he's got the best of the best because it was the most expensive and there were the most ads on TV for it.
The enthusiast is interested in the bleeding edge of technology. The audio enthusiast has $1,000 speakers not the cheap $50 speakers.
04-15-2019 11:45 AM
CrashFu said:
The enthusiast is interested in the bleeding edge of technology. The audio enthusiast has $1,000 speakers not the cheap $50 speakers.
You're confusing "being an enthusiast" with "being a pretentious rich kid who doesn't understand the difference between Cost and Value". To use your audio equipment metaphor:
Some rich kid might spend a ton of money on some over-hyped, flashy-looking, celebrity-endorsed Headphones and think he's got the best of the best because it was the most expensive and there were the most ads on TV for it.
A true enthusiast would spend half as much (or less!) on a good pair of Audio-Technicas, knowing they come from a company that has been wholly dedicated to making audio equipment from the start. Even if it's not the most expensive set Audio-Technica has, the enthusiast knows that they will be the best for that price. And because the enthusiast didn't waste all that extra money paying for the over-hyped stuff, they can take what they saved and go buy tons of actual media to enjoy with it.
Although, I think a more fitting metaphor at this point would be that Oculus is Nintendo and Valve is Walmart. If Walmart announced an official Walmart-branded, Walmart-designed game console tomorrow, and gave no details about it other than a single photo and the promise that it has "a higher resolution than the Nintendo Switch!" or something like that, would you swear off Nintendo games for life and become a loyal devotee of the Walmart console empire? "That's apples to oranges, Walmart doesn't make games or game consoles!" Exactly. They have no prior history of making game consoles, and they sell other peoples' games (many of them out of bins with big, single-digit price signs overhead) but are otherwise not part of the game industry. So why would you trust them with a game console, especially given a suspicious lack of details, unless you were the most die-hard Walmart fan alive?
04-15-2019 11:47 AM
04-15-2019 11:47 AM
CrashFu said:
The enthusiast is interested in the bleeding edge of technology. The audio enthusiast has $1,000 speakers not the cheap $50 speakers.
You're confusing "being an enthusiast" with "being a pretentious rich kid who doesn't understand the difference between Cost and Value". To use your audio equipment metaphor:
Some rich kid might spend a ton of money on some over-hyped, flashy-looking, celebrity-endorsed Headphones and think he's got the best of the best because it was the most expensive and there were the most ads on TV for it.
04-15-2019 11:53 AM
inovator said:
RedRizla said:
Not wanting to repeat myself, but why didn't they just make Rift -S like Rift Quest? That way you get audio headphones, ipd adjustment, higher resolutions screens and all for the same price as the Oculus Quest. I remember the guy from Oculus saying it was the halo design of the Rift -S that made it the same price as the Oculus Quest, but I think people were happy with the design of Oculus Quest and CV1.
I don't think they would have needed to even partner with Lenovo if they had done that would they?
Your mistaking about the headphones. Audio will work the same on both with no headphones built in.
04-15-2019 12:00 PM
RedRizla said:
inovator said:
RedRizla said:
Not wanting to repeat myself, but why didn't they just make Rift -S like Rift Quest? That way you get audio headphones, ipd adjustment, higher resolutions screens and all for the same price as the Oculus Quest. I remember the guy from Oculus saying it was the halo design of the Rift -S that made it the same price as the Oculus Quest, but I think people were happy with the design of Oculus Quest and CV1.
I don't think they would have needed to even partner with Lenovo if they had done that would they?
Your mistaking about the headphones. Audio will work the same on both with no headphones built in.
The audio won't work the same at all. The hands on reviews have already said the audio in the Rift -S isn't as good as the CV1 headphones. That's why Oculus is now going to add some headphones to Rift -S as clip on headphones. But that will come at a price no doubt making it cost more then Oculus Quest.
04-15-2019 12:05 PM
Mradr said:
CrashFu said:
The enthusiast is interested in the bleeding edge of technology. The audio enthusiast has $1,000 speakers not the cheap $50 speakers.
You're confusing "being an enthusiast" with "being a pretentious rich kid who doesn't understand the difference between Cost and Value". To use your audio equipment metaphor:
Some rich kid might spend a ton of money on some over-hyped, flashy-looking, celebrity-endorsed Headphones and think he's got the best of the best because it was the most expensive and there were the most ads on TV for it.
Dude, you need to stop calling other forum members "Rich kids" its against the rules... Honestly - this will be your first warning. I let it side a few times now - but it's getting a bit silly to keep calling other forum members this. Its one thing to call me stuff - but its another to call forum members something else. Please try to keep it civil as this can result in wars breaking out pretty quickly.
04-15-2019 12:08 PM
snowdog said:
RedRizla said:
Not wanting to repeat myself, but why didn't they just make Rift -S like Rift Quest? That way you get audio headphones, ipd adjustment, higher resolutions screens and all for the same price as the Oculus Quest. I remember the guy from Oculus saying it was the halo design of the Rift -S that made it the same price as the Oculus Quest, but I think people were happy with the design of Oculus Quest and CV1.
I don't think they would have needed to even partner with Lenovo if they had done that would they?
Because of the order they were designed in. The design timeline goes like this:
Oculus Quest -> Oculus Go -> Oculus Rift S
If they had designed the Go first then the Quest would have had a single LCD display and a software IPD adjustment. And all 3 headsets have sound tubes as far as I remember, although I will stand to be corrected if the Quest has built in headphones! You'd also probably see the Quest having a halo strap and being made by Lenovo too tbh.
04-15-2019 12:08 PM
Mradr said:
Dude, you need to stop calling other forum members "Rich kids" its against the rules...