04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-15-2019 04:27 PM
KoBak07 said:Lenovo has only produced low end, cheap WMR headsets - thus the label "junk".
Not surprised to see you try to downplay the situation considering your past hyperbole. Granted, you are overlooking huge factors like the 5-cameras on the Rift-S which makes it the most precise Inside-Out Tracking HMD on the market.
None of that is even remotely accurate. AAA titles take 3-5 years on average. We just now barely hit the 3 year mark of mainstream PCVR. Time is needed to allow for true AAA Software releases. But we need something in the meantime, which is why we get the types of experiences found today.
04-15-2019 04:38 PM
04-15-2019 04:39 PM
04-15-2019 05:17 PM
snowdog said:Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
04-15-2019 05:21 PM
MowTin said:
snowdog said:Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
How could the rift be high-end when it doesn't have IPD adjustment or earphones to save a few bucks?
It's a mid-range VR headset. Better than the cheap WMR headsets but not as good as a Vive Pro. And when you add knuckles controllers, it's even a bigger difference.
It's just a fact that it was designed to be affordable. It's a Honda, not a BMW. But Hondas are good cars. Great fuel mileage, reliability, and resale value. Rift-S excellent quality, reasonable price but it's not high-end.
04-15-2019 05:24 PM
04-15-2019 05:28 PM
Zenbane said:
KoBak07 said:Lenovo has only produced low end, cheap WMR headsets - thus the label "junk".You are still dodging. The Lenovo Explorter received good reviews on Amazon (by Consumers) and on places like Trusted. Low end and cheap are not the labels for "junk" by any stretch of the imagination. The fact is that you are 100% wrong to call Lenovo's products "junk," but it seems you are going to double-down for arguments sake. I'll continue to point out how wrong it is because the wrongfulness of your statement is the sole basis for your exaggeration of the Rift-S situation.Calling something "junk" just because it is cheap is a bit silly considering that the Oculus Rift + Touch dropped from $800 total down to $349. Math isn't on your side here.I still think, that most likely a decision was made at FB in Q3 last
year to just take the cheap Lenovo, then as quickly as possible snap on
the Oculus tracking and controller as an upgrade (this is actually a
real upgrade) and call it a day for PCVR. Not surprised that some people
jumped ship and not wanting to play the PR smile while talking about
it.Not surprised to see you try to downplay the situation considering your past hyperbole. Granted, you are overlooking huge factors like the 5-cameras on the Rift-S which makes it the most precise Inside-Out Tracking HMD on the market.
The lack of AAA titles are a direct result of how the industry changed
over the last decade+. It used to be that devs wanted to blow people
away with creating worlds and experiences, now mostly its just about
making the bucks, while catering to the lowest hardware out there, and
banging out the next re-iteration of the "whatever 21".
None of that is even remotely accurate. AAA titles take 3-5 years on average. We just now barely hit the 3 year mark of mainstream PCVR. Time is needed to allow for true AAA Software releases. But we need something in the meantime, which is why we get the types of experiences found today.
04-15-2019 05:32 PM
04-15-2019 05:34 PM
snowdog said:
KoBak07 said:
snowdog said:
Oculus still is a high end brand with a soon to be released high end headset. It doesn't just come down to specs. For my money, despite the 2K resolution, the soon to be released Acer Ojo and HP Reverb are both mi range headsets. Why? Because the tracking isn't good enough for them or any other WVR headsets to be considered to be high end headsets.
All hands on reports for the Rift S have been positive so far despite the trade offs both Oculus and Lenovo made during the design of the thing.
So that high end headset is coming soon or in 2022?
Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
04-15-2019 05:36 PM
KoBak07 said:
I downplay the "huge factors" of 5 cameras, as it does not offer any tangible benefit for people who already have a proper room scale setup. Rather it reduces tracking performance, and it also requires room lights to be on, which was not needed before. On another note though, since future Oculus titles most likely will be cross platform between the Rift and the Quest, it probably does not matter anyways. Since the Quest will have tracking limitations such as the Rift, devs will design with that constraint in mind.