04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-16-2019 12:10 AM
MowTin said:
snowdog said:Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
How could the rift be high-end when it doesn't have IPD adjustment or earphones to save a few bucks?
It's a mid-range VR headset. Better than the cheap WMR headsets but not as good as a Vive Pro. And when you add knuckles controllers, it's even a bigger difference.
It's just a fact that it was designed to be affordable. It's a Honda, not a BMW. But Hondas are good cars. Great fuel mileage, reliability, and resale value. Rift-S excellent quality, reasonable price but it's not high-end.
04-16-2019 12:45 AM
snowdog said:
KoBak07 said:
snowdog said:
Oculus still is a high end brand with a soon to be released high end headset. It doesn't just come down to specs. For my money, despite the 2K resolution, the soon to be released Acer Ojo and HP Reverb are both mi range headsets. Why? Because the tracking isn't good enough for them or any other WVR headsets to be considered to be high end headsets.
All hands on reports for the Rift S have been positive so far despite the trade offs both Oculus and Lenovo made during the design of the thing.
So that high end headset is coming soon or in 2022?
Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
04-16-2019 12:56 AM
Zenbane said:
Here is a brief commercial interruption for the sake of laughs...
04-16-2019 12:57 AM
04-16-2019 01:04 AM
MowTin said:It's just a fact that it was designed to be affordable. It's a Honda, not a BMW. But Hondas are good cars. Great fuel mileage, reliability, and resale value. Rift-S excellent quality, reasonable price but it's not high-end.
04-16-2019 01:20 AM
bigmike20vt said:
to be completely honest i think it is fair to suggest we have the vive to thank for the tracking we have with the rift. I do fully believe the rift WAS meant to be primarily a forward facing 270 degree motion controller tracked device.i think iirc oculus even stated this in the early days. It would explain why the rift lauched with 2 sensors, why for the initial 12 months or so after launch the settings only supported forward facing and why the cable on the hmd is so short.then the vive came out with its full 360degree tracking and oculus adapted.... it took some time with some buggy issues in the early days but now, with a 3 sensor set up i believe in an average - above average sized room the rift tracks every bit as well as the vive in full 360 degrees.but with out the vive i think we would still be like at touch lauch, with a much more psvr like tracking.so for that i thank valve.
04-16-2019 02:01 AM
bigmike20vt said:
snowdog said:
KoBak07 said:
snowdog said:
Oculus still is a high end brand with a soon to be released high end headset. It doesn't just come down to specs. For my money, despite the 2K resolution, the soon to be released Acer Ojo and HP Reverb are both mi range headsets. Why? Because the tracking isn't good enough for them or any other WVR headsets to be considered to be high end headsets.
All hands on reports for the Rift S have been positive so far despite the trade offs both Oculus and Lenovo made during the design of the thing.
So that high end headset is coming soon or in 2022?
Both. The Rift S is a high end headset coming in a few weeks and the CV2 will be the next one coming in 2022.
The Rift S is only a notch below the Vive Pro in terms of clarity, it's going to be a high end headset.
You post with confidence, i will give you that snowdog, i imagine it will work well in an interview 🙂the truth is you have no clue, and nether do I. You HOPE an all singing all dancing dome like hmd will come out in a few years time but really you are just going on faith... which is fine and all but i do think you should probably make it clear in your posts you are guessing just like the rest of us.remember it was not so long ago you were equally certain that oculus would never release a small upgrade device and at the same time that it would be commercial suicide for oculus to wait until 2021 even iirc for CV2.I really wish your 1st guess had been correct, I now hope your 2nd guess is also correct................. but those who think PC is now a secondary platform which will continue to get cheaper mid range hmds and that the quest is where oculus will focus most of their development is imo just as likely a prediction.The RiftS is a nice upgrade in some aspects, but, without sensor support (which oculus tease us may come) tracking will be compromised in a few areas, LCD vs oled again is a trade off, the loss of refresh rate is something i remember some posters panning pimax for with the 5k and the 8k, but the biggest thing making me worry about riftS is the lack of proper IPD adjustement. I know you are equally convinced riftS will be just fine for those with extreme IPDs.... but when oculus themselves admit for some the riftS is not for them and for those they suggest get a CV1 or a quest then i think there is good reason to be concerned.What we really all need, and something which will stop most of this bickering is for oculus to open their store to all devices and i really hope openXR allows this. I am not sure who is at fault for oculus not supporting other headsets but either way it is hurting VR as as whole imo as it is that kind of thing which makes some potential adopters sit on the fence and wait to see the winner.no one wants to be the owner of the betamax, the HDDVD, the saturn. or the 3DO.(I still have a HDDVD drive btw, and i was one of the mugs who bought a CD32 on launch and it does sting being on the losing platform)
04-16-2019 02:14 AM
inovator said:
How can you say he has no clue and posts on faith. That may be true with the index. Nobody has tried that. But we have seen quite a few hands on with the rift s and quest. It's easy to get more than a clue how tracking and visuals are going to be. When the rift and go were in the same stage as rift s and quest is now, it worked as I expected when it launched because I paid close attention to all of the reviews. Visuals and tracking will be very decent and high end on the s.
04-16-2019 02:35 AM
inovator said:
How can you say he has no clue and posts on faith. That may be true with the index. Nobody has tried that. But we have seen quite a few hands on with the rift s and quest. It's easy to get more than a clue how tracking and visuals are going to be. When the rift and go were in the same stage as rift s and quest is now, it worked as I expected when it launched because I paid close attention to all of the reviews. Visuals and tracking will be very decent and high end on the s.
04-16-2019 02:45 AM