04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-16-2019 07:35 AM
Mradr said:
RedRizla said:
@Mradr - Lets take televisions as an example. New televisions are about to be brought out and some will be 8k this time around. But whose going to buy them while they are ridiculously expensive? Even Oled and QLed television are expensive, so most people settle on purchasing a television that has just 4k.
Once these 8k televisions arrive then Oled & Qled 4k televisions will start to drop in price and the majority of people will then start to buy these televisions and not 8k televisions. So do you now see what Oculus is doing? They are catering for the majority and not the minority.
I see, so you feel like screen technology will be able to keep up even if we hit 6k that 8k will be around the bin next?
04-16-2019 07:35 AM
RedRizla said:
@Mradr - Lets take televisions as an example. New televisions are about to be brought out and some will be 8k this time around. But whose going to buy them while they are ridiculously expensive? Even Oled and QLed television are expensive, so most people settle on purchasing a television that has just 4k.
Once these 8k television arrive oled & Qled 4k televisions will start to drop in price and the majority of people will then start to buy these televisions and not 8k televisions. So do you now see what Oculus is doing? They are catering for the majority and not the minority.
04-16-2019 07:36 AM
Yeah I'm not an overly sentimental person and you're absolutely right, human life is the only thing that really matters. There's something about history and heritage though that means something even to someone like me who isn't French and isn't religious.
bigmike20vt said:
DaftnDirect said:
possibly paradox's post is a bit cringeworthy, especially if Netheri is French
hmmmm, ok potential foot in mouth comment incoming but.... it is a shame, it was / is / will be again a beautiful building with a history... but AFAIK no human life was lost, it is bricks and mortar at the end of the day...... Had it of been an image of grenfell tower or similar I would have agreed with you but...........................…
04-16-2019 07:36 AM
bigmike20vt said:
then the vive came out with its full 360degree tracking and oculus adapted.... it took some time with some buggy issues in the early days but now, with a 3 sensor set up i believe in an average - above average sized room the rift tracks every bit as well as the vive in full 360 degrees.but with out the vive i think we would still be like at touch lauch, with a much more psvr like tracking.so for that i thank valve.
04-16-2019 07:39 AM
RedRizla said:
Mradr said:
RedRizla said:
@Mradr - Lets take televisions as an example. New televisions are about to be brought out and some will be 8k this time around. But whose going to buy them while they are ridiculously expensive? Even Oled and QLed television are expensive, so most people settle on purchasing a television that has just 4k.
Once these 8k televisions arrive then Oled & Qled 4k televisions will start to drop in price and the majority of people will then start to buy these televisions and not 8k televisions. So do you now see what Oculus is doing? They are catering for the majority and not the minority.
I see, so you feel like screen technology will be able to keep up even if we hit 6k that 8k will be around the bin next?
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean?
Mradr said:
@RedRizla @Zenbane @DaftnDirect
Yes I know its theory crafting - but I like to get your thoughts - anyone can jump in - but going off the scale of hardware and the current reasoning that Oculus wants to keep it low price as possible for VR -
What if the 30s is more than powerful enough to run 6k at 80hz even go as far as to say they did get eye tracking working for the 20s and 10s cards to be supported, but the problem is that the 6k cost WAY too much even though the hardware could support it. Would your argument that keeping price low still be valid or should they try and push something a bit stronger out? I bring this up because scale of screen technology is going to hit a wall sooner than our GPUs or future improvements to VR will hit. Our biggest cost in a HMD is the screen(s). Eye tracking sort of resets FOV cost and a percent of resolution demand. With a time scale of 3 years - that be almost 2 generation of video cards depending on release dates. Personally - I dont think this question too wild of what might happen by then. 4k already a thing at around 80-144fps - with 5k already hitting 30-45Hz - 2 more gen + software improvements along with eye tracking doesn't sound too far off to already be supporting 6k by then.
04-16-2019 07:44 AM
04-16-2019 07:44 AM
bigmike20vt said:
RedRizla said:
@Mradr - Lets take televisions as an example. New televisions are about to be brought out and some will be 8k this time around. But whose going to buy them while they are ridiculously expensive? Even Oled and QLed television are expensive, so most people settle on purchasing a television that has just 4k.
Once these 8k television arrive oled & Qled 4k televisions will start to drop in price and the majority of people will then start to buy these televisions and not 8k televisions. So do you now see what Oculus is doing? They are catering for the majority and not the minority.
I guess it depends where you draw your line.if varjo VR1 is the equvalent to the 146inch samsung "Wall"and the cheapest windows MR HMD you can buy is the 32 inch HDReady setthen i would argue oculus are going much closer to the bottom end than the top..... I would be happy somewhere in the middle 😉
04-16-2019 07:44 AM
edmg said:
This is just repeating the same old nonsense. The Rift was always capable of 360 tracking with a single sensor; something the Vive requires two lighthouses for.
What it didn't originally have were motion controllers. Because they didn't want to ship with something as sucky as the Vive wands.
The reality is that Oculus were going to do what they were going to do, and HTC just rushed out a second-rate headset because they wanted to beat Oculus to market.
04-16-2019 07:47 AM
bigmike20vt said:
CrashFu said:
Fortunately, I think the specs of Rift-S will be more than good enough for the large majority of people.
But for the ones who think they absolutely NEED something "better"... I hope Oculus will either consider adding third-party headset support to Home in the near future, or continue being supportive of programs like Revive.
'cause even high-spec tech snobs shouldn't have to miss out on the best content and community that VR has to offer. :kissing_heart:
Nailed it (but without the shot a cross the bow of the high end users). Imo it's not a problem if Oculus can get official support for high end VR hmds but if they don't it really sucks for those happy to invest a little more into VR but realise that oculus still have the best software infrastructure
04-16-2019 07:47 AM
bigmike20vt said:
RedRizla said:
@Mradr - Lets take televisions as an example. New televisions are about to be brought out and some will be 8k this time around. But whose going to buy them while they are ridiculously expensive? Even Oled and QLed television are expensive, so most people settle on purchasing a television that has just 4k.
Once these 8k television arrive oled & Qled 4k televisions will start to drop in price and the majority of people will then start to buy these televisions and not 8k televisions. So do you now see what Oculus is doing? They are catering for the majority and not the minority.
I guess it depends where you draw your line.if varjo VR1 is the equvalent to the 146inch samsung "Wall"and the cheapest windows MR HMD you can buy is the 32 inch HDReady setthen i would argue oculus are going much closer to the bottom end than the top..... I would be happy somewhere in the middle 😉