04-23-2019 02:54 AM
“VR is going to keep progressing. So, beyond and shadow of a doubt, at some point we will have a next generation where we add some sort of feature that breaks all of the old stuff and makes it either not work, or makes it seem obsolete. Our goal is not to do that right now. Our goal is to bring as many people into the ecosystem as possible. Bifurcating the ecosystem with a Rift and, say, a Rift 2 […] is not the right thing to do right now.”
https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-explains-timing-rift-2-rift-pro/?fbclid=IwAR37hW4dGpGnISlto-mubuiS2Z...
04-25-2019 11:04 AM
Zenbane said:
KoBak07 said:I am just having hard time seeing how this product will drive adoption so much as much the proponents expect to be, when WMR headsets with a much lower prices than the S had failed.WMR has a garbage selection of VR Titles. Software is king in VR. That's how Oculus was able to compete against the Vive even when the Rift had a single sensor and an X-Box controller. And that was 3 years ago. The software advantage that Oculus maintains has been obvious since April 2016. This advantage will continue with both Quest and Rift-S. So it shouldn't be hard to see how Rift-S will drive adoption compared to WMR headsets - which have terrible native platform title selections.Would you buy a Nintendo if all it let you do was play XBox games through a Port? lol
04-25-2019 11:14 AM
snowdog said:
The momentary timeout will be three years and then we'll see the Tock being released in 2022.
04-25-2019 11:14 AM
kevinw729 said:
snowdog said:
The momentary timeout will be three years and then we'll see the Tock being released in 2022.
When usually I see market observers refer to the "Tick-Tock Model" of development it is agreed as an iterative process that dose not have "timeouts" - that would be more a description of a break, and possible restart/refresh (possible abandonment of the original plan).
The Tick-Tock Model (mainly in chip and consumer design) - sees the Tick representing a shrinkage in technological application, while the Tock represents a enhancement or investment in new innovation.
So (Tick) CV1, (Tock) Rift-S... long timeout... (Tick) CV2 - does not really work?
But, (Tick) GearVR, (Tock) CV1, (Tick) GO / Rift-S, (Tock) Quest... - dose seem to work.
04-25-2019 11:22 AM
KoBak07 said:I don't see what I would be cherry-picking. You said:
After 3 years of PCVR, the market has told the world that it needs something other than high-end hardware if someone wants to acquire 10's of millions of consumers. And now Oculus is filling that Void with Quest and Rift-S. So you are correct in your statement, but you are applying it completely wrong.
I was just agreeing that the Quest fills a void, while questioning that argument that the Rift S will be silver bullet that magically get the masses into VR, at least on the PC.
They made it this far after 3 years, so we can reasonably expect 2-3 years so that they can actually analyze the market and industry indicators. They need at least 1 year of sales to pass and another to analyze, strategize, and execute. Pretty common in the business world.
04-25-2019 11:31 AM
inovator said:
RedRizla said:
inovator said:
I agree: in addition there was a reviewer that owns a pimax . I believe it was 5k. He was reviewing the rift s. He said he wouldn't recommend rift owners do an upgrade with the small improvements including the small visual improvements. I really wanted to throw many @$$@@ words at him. No fucken empathy. He was basing his recommendation on his Pima vs the rift, not the rift a vs rift s. Many reviewers said there was a very noticeable visual difference.
I saw a reviewer that said if you owned a CV1 you didn't need to update to a Rift -S. The funny thing is though he said he was upgrading because the Rift -S had better visuals and he wanted to see Oculus games in all their spender. I really had to laugh at that review.
Exactly! I'm not a violent person but I have the urge to throw mud pies in their faces.I have not seen the review but it isn't necessarily contradictory. A 2019 oled LG TV could well be a bit better than a 2018 model but over all a reviewer may conclude not to go out and replace your 2018 telly BUT that it is a really nice telly for those who don't have a recent TV.
Maybe not the best example just saying it is possible for a product to be better than the one it replaces and still not be worth buying if you have the old one.
A reviewers job imo is to give you specs and their subjective opinion. It isn't their job to spoon feed you the exact answer to if you should buy it due to potentially specific circumstances. I have a really well set up 3 sensor CV1. Over all I accept rift s will probably edge it even for me (assuming my IPD is supported and all my titles work), but not £400s worth
Also I have bought things because I am obsessed with them but I would not in all good conscience reccomend other people do it.
04-25-2019 11:36 AM
bigmike20vt said:
inovator said:
RedRizla said:
inovator said:
I agree: in addition there was a reviewer that owns a pimax . I believe it was 5k. He was reviewing the rift s. He said he wouldn't recommend rift owners do an upgrade with the small improvements including the small visual improvements. I really wanted to throw many @$$@@ words at him. No fucken empathy. He was basing his recommendation on his Pima vs the rift, not the rift a vs rift s. Many reviewers said there was a very noticeable visual difference.
I saw a reviewer that said if you owned a CV1 you didn't need to update to a Rift -S. The funny thing is though he said he was upgrading because the Rift -S had better visuals and he wanted to see Oculus games in all their spender. I really had to laugh at that review.
Exactly! I'm not a violent person but I have the urge to throw mud pies in their faces.I have not seen the review but it isn't necessarily contradictory. A 2019 oled LG TV could well be a bit better than a 2018 model but over all a reviewer may conclude not to go out and replace your 2018 telly BUT that it is a really nice telly for those who don't have a recent TV.
Maybe not the best example just saying it is possible for a product to be better than the one it replaces and still not be worth buying if you have the old one
My point was that reviewer in my opinion was comparing his pimax vs rifts and not rifts vs the rift in making his recommendation.
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