03-29-2019 04:26 PM
04-26-2019 08:57 PM
pyroth309 said:
In other Valve news, VNN/Valve News Network seems pretty confident that the 3 Valve VR games are Half Life, Left 4 Dead, and a coop VR stealth game codenamed citadel. While that sounds all well and good, I won't care about them much if they're under 5 hours of gameplay.
04-26-2019 09:38 PM
CrashFu said:
pyroth309 said:
In other Valve news, VNN/Valve News Network seems pretty confident that the 3 Valve VR games are Half Life, Left 4 Dead, and a coop VR stealth game codenamed citadel. While that sounds all well and good, I won't care about them much if they're under 5 hours of gameplay.
If this rumor was true, and they turned out to be full games, that would be even worse for Valve! Imagine how angry people would be if the first serious Valve games released in ages were available to less than 1% of their customers. I mean sure, people look the other way when it's an ethics scandal or shady business practices, but finally releasing a new Half Life after all these years, and it has a $1000+ price barrier?
In fact, I'm not sure what would be worse for them:
The games are Index exclusive, excluding even MORE of their customers because most of them will never be able to afford one (or the PC to run it) and Valve look like major tools after harshly criticizing Oculus for platform exclusives..
Or the games aren't Index exclusive, and the desire to play those games drives everyone who can't afford the Index to buy a Rift-S instead. I'd love to see the Steam Hardware Survey after that.
:wink:
04-26-2019 10:18 PM
pyroth309 said:
In other Valve news, VNN/Valve News Network seems pretty confident that the 3 Valve VR games are Half Life, Left 4 Dead, and a coop VR stealth game codenamed citadel. While that sounds all well and good, I won't care about them much if they're under 5 hours of gameplay.
I wonder what that means for the fan based HL2 VR mode
PS this fecking forum software.. once it decides my curser should be in the quote I can't get the damn thing out.
04-26-2019 10:25 PM
04-26-2019 10:33 PM
04-26-2019 10:57 PM
CrashFu said:
I was including the cost of the computer, as the vast majority of Steam users do not own VR-capable PCs, and out of the ones that do, even fewer will meet the requirements for any higher-end system, as the Index is appearing to be.
You also seem to be forgetting that Valve is not a VR company. They're a game-distributor and very rarely a game developer who are now dipping their toes into the VR industry, but PC gamers who do not have PC VR systems still make up ~99% of their customer-base (and likely always will) Thus, any VR game Valve makes is being made for only ~1% of their current and future audience, and will be completely unavailable to the rest. Also, given that they can't afford to neglect that other 99%, it's very unlikely that they'll make any further VR games after the mystery three. Something to keep in mind, before you go thinking that three whole games means they're suddenly going to get more involved in the industry and stay involved.
A game that can be played in both VR and non-VR mode is certainly possible, but such a thing usually warrants compromises in design, that result in it being a very underwhelming experience in at least one of those modes. Going for a full-on asynchronous experience is about the only way to make such a thing work well.. allowing the two experiences to be uneven, so that one can be designed fully for flatscreen gaming and the other can be designed fully for VR. But the non-VR gamers will still be upset that they're missing out on half of the game, especially if they have to pay full-price for it.
04-26-2019 11:04 PM
snowdog said:
They won't be able to make a VR headset big enough or powerful enough to scan my far superior brain. B)
Snow is that because the technology needed to amplify the brain waves enough to detect has not yet been invented?...…. 😘
04-26-2019 11:17 PM
bigmike20vt said:
pyroth309 said:
In other Valve news, VNN/Valve News Network seems pretty confident that the 3 Valve VR games are Half Life, Left 4 Dead, and a coop VR stealth game codenamed citadel. While that sounds all well and good, I won't care about them much if they're under 5 hours of gameplay.
I wonder what that means for the fan based HL2 VR mode
PS this fecking forum software.. once it decides my curser should be in the quote I can't get the damn thing out.
04-26-2019 11:47 PM
04-27-2019 01:05 AM
Wildt said:
Imagine having to mail support saying that the brain sensor isn't working :lol: