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HP Reverb second impression thread. (Revision 2)

Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
edited September 2019 in General
Ok HP have finally started selling the Reverb again after the messy first release. I returned the 1st with issues and received my version 2 model yesterday. Setup is plug and play as you'd expect with a WMR. I did have an issue for an hour or so where I was stuck in 3dof but after tinkering I found the error (user) and was back in 6dof. The cable is still heavy and a tad cumbersome but due to a new included clip, the cable attachment will not come apart now.

Now for the good bits, the resolution ohhh the resolution!!! I am so glad I have my Reverb again for simming. Sod the controllers I don't use them. But in DCS FSX P3D and our Flyinside simulator, the clarity is what I've always wished and hoped for.

Yes I think it does need a 2080ti to get the full benefit of this headset but that's a personal opinion and yes it's a tad pricey but did I mention the resolution?

If you are into sit down experiences or simming then this is a must have HMD, it really does blow everything out of the water (until we hear about the cosmos)

I think the sound is on par with the CV1 through the Reverbs headphones but defo not as comfortable but they are bearable.

Visuals = 10/10
Comfort = 7.5/10
Build quality = 8.5/10
Value = 9/10
Recommendations = 9.5/10

Simmers it's a no brainer, go buy.
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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 3,362 Valuable Player
    Good idea to start a 2nd release thread mate.  Thanks.

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  • WildtWildt Posts: 2,295 Valuable Player
    Unless they've redesigned the earphones, I'm gonna have to disagree about their sound quality compared to the CV1s. 

    And I don't know if you've assimilated the lousy ergonimics of the controllers into the comfort factor or not - but imo they are pretty awful overall.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 7,411 Valuable Player
    edited September 2019
    Had this weird dream where most boardies in here suddenly used HMDs from HTC, Valve and HP. Yeah, really weird, my mind goes crazy when I sleep  :D  o:)

    [Admitted, this was my - maybe slightly misguided - attempt to make a funny post] 
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    The Reverb will work beside my Rift and Go lol
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 7,411 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    The Reverb will work beside my Rift and Go lol
    I also have my CV1 in case someone angrily says to me "you don't belong here"  o:)  :D 

    Actually I've paid more than 1K for my Oculus software - that's gotta count for something too. 

    And now to Lone Echo on the Reverb - I wonder if it's possible with the controllers? ... I guess some WMR dudes must have tried it...
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 8,058 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    The Reverb will work beside my Rift and Go lol
    Do you have the CV1 plugged in at the same time as the Reverb?
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    No mate not thought of trying that but will tonight.
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 8,058 Valuable Player
    edited September 2019
    Techy111 said:
    No mate not thought of trying that but will tonight.
    Go careful -I got a blank screen on my 2D monitor when I tried that with CV1 and Rift S when I had it. I had to do 5 cold reboots to get my 2D computer screen back after doing it.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 7,411 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    Techy111 said:
    No mate not thought of trying that but will tonight.
    Go careful -I got a blank screen on my 2D monitor when I tried that with CV1 and Rift S when I had it. I had to do 5 cold reboots to get my 2D computer screen back after doing it.

    Shhhh!!! You're scaring him :D I think it's a perfect idea to connect Reverb and the CV1. Now first start the rig - don't touch CV1 even if it's fully connected, but just start SteamVR and check the Reverb is properly identified - and now close Steam completely (even the tray icon). 
    Now start Oculus Home, and choose for example a game like Skyrim VR - or FallOut 4 VR -  using Dash, and I wish you the best of luck!  o:)
    In fact, maybe it'll work with no problems, I just haven't dared to try it. 

    As long as I don't start SteamVR, having both CV1 and Index connected isn't a problem on my rig - no reboots, all is working perfectly.  
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 7,411 Valuable Player
    Techy111 said:
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
    You can close it - but I have not experienced any performance losses. It doesn't always start on my rig. 
    I'm using a solution like this - usually I only power the CV1 when I'm about to use it, 3 sensor are always active though.


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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Yeah got one of those mate and it only starts OH when I start one of my sims.
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  • MowTinMowTin Posts: 1,945 Valuable Player
    The lack of an IPD adjustment is what turned me off to the Reverb. Also, just the index resolution is stressing my 2080ti out on these sims. 

    How good is the WMR smoothing technology given that avoiding reprojection in most sims (IL-2, DCS) is almost impossible? 
    i7 9700k 2080ti   CV1, Rift-S, Index
  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    MowTin said:
    The lack of an IPD adjustment is what turned me off to the Reverb. Also, just the index resolution is stressing my 2080ti out on these sims. 

    Software related IPD in settings mate, works quite well :)


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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 8,058 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    Techy111 said:
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
    You can close it - but I have not experienced any performance losses. It doesn't always start on my rig. 
    I'm using a solution like this - usually I only power the CV1 when I'm about to use it, 3 sensor are always active though.


    Does this disable the Oculus CV1 from starting or will there still be problem with it connected to the HDMi?
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 3,362 Valuable Player
    Only way I have found is to stop OVRservice in your task manager services tab.  Then when you want to run your Rift again, restart OVRservice (or restart your PC).  Or, you can make a simple bat file to turn it on/off.

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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 8,058 Valuable Player
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only way I have found is to stop OVRservice in your task manager services tab.  Then when you want to run your Rift again, restart OVRservice (or restart your PC).  Or, you can make a simple bat file to turn it on/off.
    I can't make a simple bat file because I don't know how to :D
    Where can I get a bat file?
  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,408 Valuable Player
    I just used to use the Oculus Tray Tool to stop the Oculus services.


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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 3,362 Valuable Player
    RedRizla said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Only way I have found is to stop OVRservice in your task manager services tab.  Then when you want to run your Rift again, restart OVRservice (or restart your PC).  Or, you can make a simple bat file to turn it on/off.
    I can't make a simple bat file because I don't know how to :D
    Where can I get a bat file?
    Just Google ovr services bat file.  You will see lots of examples how to create a simple bat file with your notebook editor.  I think I used to use the one shown on the windows central website.

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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Title changed to help anyone who is interested ;)
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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 3,362 Valuable Player
    Maybe change the other Reverb thread likewise to ....(Gen 1).  Then close it.

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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Done 🤟
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  • Shadowmask72Shadowmask72 Posts: 4,408 Valuable Player
    Other than fixing the screen issues what else have they [HP] done? Is there a list of changes somewhere. Not sure why you put Gen 2 as if it's a new device? Is the cable less thick for example?


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  • SkScotcheggSkScotchegg Posts: 1,348
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    Techy111 said:
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
    That's strange, why would Oculus software launch when using a different company's HMD? Can anyone please explain?
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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 3,362 Valuable Player
    edited September 2019
    SkScotchegg said:
    Techy111 said:
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
    That's strange, why would Oculus software launch when using a different company's HMD? Can anyone please explain?
    Pretty simple imho.  If you have Oculus software installed it already starts up ovr services.  If you do not want it to start up Oculus home you need to stop ovr services.  No big deal imho.

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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Shadowmask72 said:
    Other than fixing the screen issues what else have they [HP] done? Is there a list of changes somewhere. Not sure why you put Gen 2 as if it's a new device? Is the cable less thick for example?
    No the cable is much of the same, a clip  is included to stop the cable parting. Also it states VR1000-2××× in the home portal so something has changed with the headset. It certainly doesn't get warm anymore.
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  • SkScotcheggSkScotchegg Posts: 1,348
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    edited September 2019
    TomCgcmfc said:
    SkScotchegg said:
    Techy111 said:
    The thing I find a tad annoying is when starting any sims with the Reverb and steam VR up and running, Oculus home starts !!! Ideas ?
    That's strange, why would Oculus software launch when using a different company's HMD? Can anyone please explain?
    Pretty simple imho.  If you have Oculus software installed it already starts up ovr services.  If you do not want it to start up Oculus home you need to stop ovr services.  No big deal imho.

    I still don't understand.

    Why would one gaming platform open up when using a HMD that is programmed to work for a different gaming platform? Is this a glitch?

    Like shouldn't it work like this - When you use a Rift CV1/S it does not open Steam VR when using Oculus Home.

    And then when using Index/Reverb/Cosmos/Vive etc it does not open Oculus Home when using Steam VR?

    Why would either one open the other?
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Maybe it has something to do with any exe files written when using the CV1 and all my sims ??? Say if I open DCS it launches my windows portal then steam VR and finally right at the end, Oculus Home. Could it be something written to windows ???
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  • Techy111Techy111 Posts: 6,863 Volunteer Moderator
    Unless there is a setting somewhere in SteamVR that has been ticked that looks for the CV1??
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