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Acer OJO 4320 x 2160 display

pyroth309
Visionary
Pretty sweet looking headset. And no that's not per eye lol.  It's going to be 2160x2160. I know Kevin mentioned this in the Index thread awhile back but there's a new article on it. And yea it's WMR.







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kevinw729
Honored Visionary
I understand that the executive board are working hard to run a "everything is normal" in order to secure new business, but it s best to look beyond the hyperbole. 
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

OmegaM4N
Expert Trustee

Mradr said:


OmegaM4N said:

Modular design, what a fantastic idea, imaging keeping your earphones and headset that you are happy with and just replacing the Screen or lenses to a better res.....i love that idea.


The problem with modular design is cost and over all - just too many options for the end customer in a way. I am ok with upgrades of course - but as we saw with HTC - it can also feel a bit disappointing getting the base model to only have to keep throwing more money to upgrade to the highest tier of the same headset.

Yeah i just found out recently the Vive only comes with earbuds, and i hate those, don't like anything in my ear canal, and the deluxe strap thing is over £100, so that was the final nail in that coffin for purchasing a Vive, as i was going to trade in my Dell visor towards a Vive, but after finding out about the vive earbuds i just stipped down a pair of my Betron overear headphones and stuck them onto the Dell visor, so total cost to have a WMR headwet with proper earphones connected to it like on the Rift......a £10 Betron headphones. ha

I am now in a good position to happily wait a year and see what Vr has to offer in again in upgrades. 🙂
CV1/Vive-knuckles)/Dell Vr Visor/Go/Quest II/ PSVR.

RuneSR2
Grand Champion
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Seems like Acer OJO 500 is out with a 1 year delay - it's "just" the usual 3K-ish, namely 2880x1440, thus slightly lower res than Cosmos and Index - and it's WMR (90 Hz, 100 degrees fov) - more info here:

https://de-store.acer.com/acer-ojo-500-de?utm_source=www.acer.de&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=CL...

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/acerojo500

https://www.roadtovr.com/acer-vr-ojo-500-launch-delay/
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https://youtu.be/7PDxDbnbnaE

Not sure it brings anything new to the table, price is the same as Rift-S, OJO res is better, audio is probably much better, but tracking will be worse. OJO 500 supports physical IPD adjustment too. Seems Acer focused a lot on comfort. Maybe OJO 500 is just a nice HMD for persons who want WMR but think Reverb res is too high?

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"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

kevinw729
Honored Visionary
Yeah @RuneSR2 - this is a weird one. I am not sure if its been placed on consumer players after the fall-out of the Acer / StarVR situation. Its performance is better than WinMR but not really a Cosmos killer. I think this is the last of the "not quite enterprise" headset of this generation. 

https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

TomCgcmfc
MVP
MVP
Only two ways  wmr is going to go.  Either Microsoft dumps it or someone else picks it up imho.
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kevinw729
Honored Visionary

TomCgcmfc said:

Only two ways  wmr is going to go.  Either Microsoft dumps it or someone else picks it up imho.



Agree, though I think it would be a real long-shot to see someone pick it up. It has "Daydream" written all over it at the moment - and as MS is "reallocating" execs at the moment, I think their VR experiment has limited time on life-support. 

The media will have a field-day when they finally throw in the towel - and with the Project Scarlet VR rumors proving bogus - I think that MS may be focusing on its Enterprise VR & AR for the time being. 
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

RuneSR2 said:


Mradr said:

I thought StarVR was out?  IF it wasn't - I want this 😮 



Alive and kicking right here:

https://www.starvr.com/

This may be the one HMD that even the Index can't touch (much 😉 But 3k would be dead in the water even for gaming enthusiasts.




Well it seems we were right again - the StarVR platform has been placed on hold indefinitely. This may explain why Acer decided to dust off their year-old headset so they could at least still have a horse in the race. An embarrassing end to a headset that was surrounded in so much hyperbole.

https://www.starvr.com/news/40/
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

RuneSR2
Grand Champion

RuneSR2 said:

StarVR could be awesome with 210 degrees fov, 450 grams of weight and eye tracking - if the price comes down:

https://youtu.be/90WIQ-Fcecs

https://youtu.be/KtlFJ3aV8Os

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- and the display is OLED (AMOLED), no cheap-ish LCD ;-). 

One minor problem may be the price... (and lack of headphones):

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Seems like StarVR is coming, but it probably won't be dirt cheap like the Index 😉

https://www.roadtovr.com/starvr-one-launch-acer-starbreeze/

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"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

Anonymous
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Keep in mind of the target people they are going after. This would be more design for business thus I dont see the need for customers to rush for it. I am sure they will bring down the price - 3,200 after such a long delay would be a shame to ask for considering you could just pick up a Index for a majority of the testing you might use it for. The major thing it does offer is eye tracking - Vive Pro eye might be able to get you by as well. Over all - if they do keep the price high to 3200 it would be strictly to get a head of the game in terms of using eye tracking, a pretty high res screens, and FOV.

I would consider it still a 9/10 out of 11/10 (last year), sadly it was just delayed for a long time and the price would be consider high now with 2021 looking to have the same specs thus the asking price seems a bit high now. Before, I think I would've bought one last year if it had release on time. This one still high on my list though. I hope they release another refresh/rehash next year with higher res screens and work with software/hardware companies such as AMD and Nivida to really push it hard. It already had the basic features most high end headsets need:P

I say that because - I dont think Oculus is going to release anything like this one next year nor will Index. So it should be its own game changer if they do vs the options out there that cost 5k+ or more or 1k or less with less features.

kevinw729
Honored Visionary
Have to agree @Mradr - very unlikely that OculusVR would release something like this in the near term. Not their priority following the restructuring and the turn to Standalone focus. Though they have promised to employ Half-Dome technology in future designs - we shall see if that is a Quest or a PCVR promise.

I have my doubts about StarVR, having had to look closely at the company after they were dropped by StarBreeze, and then eventually abandoned by Acer, there were a lot of questions about its previous management and financial stability. Now to see this system "suddenly" appear for sale at a $3k price point and only from Asian sales agents, with no word on support, it just begs more questions on if this is a fire-sale to try and recoup income or pay debts to Acer? 

Obviously the operation (or what is left of StarVR) can only see a chance to compete with Pimax and VRgineers in the Enterprise sector, but to be honest they have not covered themselves in glory, especially how their previous executives treated the business scene. For this type of coverage to come now sets off all kinds of alarm bells, and we need to see positive support before we would recommend clients to even evaluate these systems, let alone consumers spend that kind of cash on a "possibility"!
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959