What's this pixel inversion thing? This is the first I'm hearing of it
Whoa!How ubiquitous is this issue? My Index just shipped today; definitely something to look out for
Did Valve fix their controller clicking issue or didn't it require a fix? I really don't want to have to search the thread to see. I'm waiting for CES in January and if nothing good comes out of that, then I will be well on my way for saving for a Valve index.
Hmmm, Left 4 Dead could be interesting........
Valve Index Frunk Fan 3D Mod!
Watched a few movies using BigScreen Revive with Index res 200%, (= solid 90 fps) and it's close to being in a theater. But one movie was mkv another mp4, although 1080p it's just not good enough. You need 4K.But that's just me, I'm sure many persons with little knowledge about VR would be totally blown away. With 4K and virtual surround sound I think Index might be really close to IMAX at home
All the 1080p (compressed) movies I tried in the Index looked horribly low-res and that's not caused by the HMD. Showing 1080p using Big Screen or other players feels much like sitting in a real theater watching a blu-ray movie - without any 4K upscaling, and it does not look very good. Much the same bad res I get when watching some 1080p content with my 4K 85" tv, but there the 4K upscaling often helps a lot. The movie image size in the Index is so big that I need to turn my head if I want to see everything - just like sitting in the center of an Imax theater - so the movie image size is much bigger than Index can display within it's native res and fov restrictions. That's why 1080p does not look very good when shown is such a large format (like zoomed in), it lacks detail - I guess that's why you don't get 1080p in your local Imax theater I think Reverb will need 4K content to shine the most too, unless we somehow can get awesome 2k to 4k upscaling working.BigScreen is kinda horrible, I gave up using both Touch or Knuckles and just use a normal mouse for starting movies. But I like The Void and I can get a really big screen, lol.
Calibos said:You need 4K minimum in a real Cinema for a respectable experience because the folks sitting in the front row are close enough to the screen to resolve the pixels and SDE to an image quality destroying degree if the Cinema is still running a crappy 2K cinema projector. 4K in a real Cinema isn't ideal either but its a lot better than 2K.
Kinda bites, especially given that here in Canada the kit costs $1,477 after all is said and done.Oh, and 28 cents too, if anyone is counting pennies :P
Spuzzum said:So...$1,319...plus 12% tax. Are you BC or Manitoba? And I'm assuming shipping was included? Or...less tax, with shipping extra?
.as.. cool as the Knuckles are, how much does it really add to the game to be able to use each finger individually? Except for hand gestures, not much. I'll pass.
Clickgate is back =(Just received my Index kit, and the left controller's thumbstick doesn't click in the leftmost position. All other positions work. Right thumbstick is OK too.Kinda bites, especially given that here in Canada the kit costs $1,477 after all is said and done.Oh, and 28 cents too, if anyone is counting pennies :P
Comrade_Ivan said:the one to rule them doesn't yet exist. They all have a different edge where they shine.
How is Lone Echo on the Index?
Anyone try Lone Echo with similar specs? I really want to play through the campaign but if motion smoothing is going to be on 100% of the time I don't really feel like that's worth $45
Thanks in advance!
Lone Echo was made for CV1, and Lone Echo with CV1 truly shines using super sampling 2.0 and temporal antialiasing. For now I have not been able to achieve similar image quality and performance using the Index - but using at least 2080 Ti or 3080 Ti may help. I use an oc'ed GTX 1080. And I've got more than 2 years of experience optimizing Lone Echo ;-)"
Not sure Lone Echo 2 will work any better on Index - and Rift-S will also have problems if TAA is needed again (TAA looks very blurry on current LCD hmds), while Quest + Oculus Link may shine. The Lone Echo 2 Trailer Experience looks nice using CV1, but it sure looks awful using the Index (and you've got no graphics setting in the trailer). Thus the final version will be interesting - and asw 2.0 may prove very important too
The problem is that although we all what high res and awesome games, just running good old Lone Echo using the CV1 ss 2.0 and TAA (and no MSAA) will require a faster video card than 2080 Ti, because not even 2080 Ti can get solid 90 fps under those conditions (as tested in here about a year ago in a different thread). Devs even had to disable shadows in Boneworks to get acceptable performance, lol. Getting 90 fps in Stormland with all settings maxed (including the dreaded real time shadows) and forcing ss 2.0 with CV1 may again require a 3080 Ti or the like... when Revive works with Stormland, I'm sure we'll hear a lot of Index users complain about how badly Stormland is optimized, lol.
Too bad VR isnt big enough to support two different products - one with OLED and one with LCD for different price points xD
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