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Quest or Rift S?

amiel1124amiel1124 Posts: 2
NerveGear
I have a laptop which can run VR (intel 17 with GTX 1070), should I get the Quest with Link or the Rift S? Which is better?

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  • Protocol7Protocol7 Posts: 333
    Trinity
    If you want to use it only when connected to the laptop, get the Rift S as it provides the best image quality and comfort. If your interpupillary distance (IPD) is within the range of 61.5mm to 65.5mm then the Rift S is suitable (it has a fixed IPD of 63.5mm). Your laptop would need to have a Displayport that is directly connected to the GPU for it to be compatible with the Rift S.

    If you would like to use it sometimes connected to the laptop and sometimes standalone, free of any wires, then get the Quest for its versatility. The Quest has physical IPD adjustment so it is suitable for the range of 56mm to 74mm. The Quest requires a USB3 port on your laptop for Link functionality.




  • inovatorinovator Posts: 2,426 Valuable Player
    It depends what's most important to you. If  you want the best quality and comfort  and you want portability as well and can afford it, get both. Long playing sessions and less pixels is better on the rift s but I also love the wirless gameplay on the quest. I need both. If I only could own one and badly wanted pc and portability the quest is the choice.
  • BlackPixel_BlackPixel_ Posts: 99
    Hiro Protagonist
    Obviously the Quest.
    Best of Both Worlds.
    and that price is ridiculously affordable 


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  • Human999Human999 Posts: 4
    NerveGear
    Obviously the Quest.
    Best of Both Worlds.
    and that price is ridiculously affordable 

    Agreed
  • andysonofbobandysonofbob Posts: 247
    Nexus 6
    I've literally just had to choose between the two devices. Fortunately I have a friend with a quest and beta. So can see for myself. 
    The tethered Quest is no Rift S (or CV1) imo. 
    BUT 
    If your IPD is greater than 68 (not sure what the lower range is) you might want to look somewhere other than the Rift S though. I'm 67.5 - 68mm and it's just about OK for me.

  • Jim_DunleavyJim_Dunleavy Posts: 10
    NerveGear
    edited November 2019
    I've recently had to make this choice and went for the Rift S. My reasoning was:

    1. I'm more interested in PCVR

    2. There's still a question (in my mind at least) over the quality and performance of the Quest link (foveated rendering, limited video bandwidth, lower frame rate)

    3. My IPD (according to my optician) is 64mm

    4. The Rift S had 50 quid knocked off at Argos for Black Friday. :)


    It would be nice to have a fully portable VR headset, but it would have been a bonus for me rather than what I really needed.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,679 Valuable Player
    For a PC enthusiast, Rift S definitely the way to go.
    I have and have used both. Quest with Link is pretty cool and works, but Rift S is better experience.
    Don

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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,822 Volunteer Moderator
    edited December 2019
    I use both regularly and have some comparisons...

    I've gotten used to the LCD colours of the S and find the Quest OLED slightly fluorescent in comparison. I'm not an expert on the two displays and I had thought that refresh rate just affected the feeling of responsiveness rather than flicker... as flicker, I think, has more to do with 'off time' between frames rather than frame rates, but I find there's very slight flicker noticeable in the Quest, only in bright scenes though... and it is very slight.

    Sound is better in the Quest. I've been using surround speakers since I bought the S though, so for me this isn't an issue. I've now decided speakers are better than any headset headphones as they seem to give more accurate spatial sound.

    If you like to sit back in your seat, resting your head on a headrest.. or if you want to watch movies in VR on the sofa or in bed, Quest is a much better option as the headset has no protrusions at the back so you can lie back.

    The S is way more comfortable for long sessions of PCVR gaming, the halo design has it resting on your head, not on your face.

    Quest has been better for me when demonstrating VR to friends or having fun with family. There's no real alternative to a non-PC dependent, untethered headset for that, or for experiencing complete freedom of movement.

    I'm just pleased to have both headsets, but I'm not sure there's an easy answer if you're choosing one or the other, you'd really have to decide what kind of VR you think will be most important to you.
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  • SpuzzumSpuzzum Posts: 843
    3Jane
    I find the Quest way better than the CV1. Less SDE, and it seems they're using either some kind of supersampling, or antialiasing. With the CV1, while in Oculus Home, the ropes of the ships in the harbour are a shimmering mess with jagged edges. But with the Quest and Link...they're smooth. The Quest also has better optics than the CV1.
  • Infante_H.Infante_H. Posts: 5
    NerveGear
    I am really need some advice about this, which VR set should I choose? Quest or Rift S? And what are the differences?
    Is the game diversity different from one to another?
    Please, give some help.
  • dburnedburne Posts: 3,679 Valuable Player
    Rift S is best with a gaming PC.
    Quest has some neat features and games, but not as elaborate as PC games for the Rift.

    You can use Oculus Link now to hook up the Quest to a PC to play those games, at a little performance penalty.
    I have both but prefer the Rift S for my PC-gaming, and I use Quest for other things/games designed for it. 
    Don

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  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,275 Valuable Player
    Spuzzum said:
    I find the Quest way better than the CV1. Less SDE, and it seems they're using either some kind of supersampling, or antialiasing. With the CV1, while in Oculus Home, the ropes of the ships in the harbour are a shimmering mess with jagged edges. But with the Quest and Link...they're smooth. The Quest also has better optics than the CV1.
    You do realise that there are graphics setting within Oculus Home to improve all that?  On Dash/settings/graphics select both options.  Using your left controller menu/ preferences/graphics you can select high.  On top of all that, with OTT you can select global SS = 2.0.  I assure you that if you do all that (and have a good enough PC to do this btw) then the CV1 will look fantastic.

    Custom built gaming desktop; i9 9900k (water cooled) oc to 5ghz, gtx 1080 ti, 32 gb 3000hz ram, 1 tb ssd, 4 tb hdd.  Asus  ROG Maximus xi hero wifi mb, StarTech 4 port/4 controller sata powered usb3.0 pcie card, PCI-E PCI Express to USB 3.1 Gen 2 card, Asus VG248QE 1080p 144hz gaming monitor, Oculus Rift cv1 w/2x sensors, Vive Pro w/2.0 base stations/controllers, Quest w/Link and VD wireless (good/close 5Ghz wifi and PC with Ethernet cable to my Router).

  • SkScotcheggSkScotchegg Posts: 1,328
    Project 2501
    edited December 2019
    Choose Rift S so you can play PC games with high end graphics.

    Or buy CV1 - 2nd hand.
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  • SpuzzumSpuzzum Posts: 843
    3Jane
    edited December 2019
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Spuzzum said:
    I find the Quest way better than the CV1. Less SDE, and it seems they're using either some kind of supersampling, or antialiasing. With the CV1, while in Oculus Home, the ropes of the ships in the harbour are a shimmering mess with jagged edges. But with the Quest and Link...they're smooth. The Quest also has better optics than the CV1.
    You do realise that there are graphics setting within Oculus Home to improve all that?  On Dash/settings/graphics select both options.  Using your left controller menu/ preferences/graphics you can select high.  On top of all that, with OTT you can select global SS = 2.0.  I assure you that if you do all that (and have a good enough PC to do this btw) then the CV1 will look fantastic.

    You think I don't know this? I'm talking bare bones out of the box, without having to adjust any other settings? Even Link has resolution settings in Oculus Debug Tool. You love your Rift CV1...congrats. I prefer the Quest. Now bugger off about it already.
  • Infante_H.Infante_H. Posts: 5
    NerveGear
    What is CV1? and are there any games on steam I can play with quest.
    My major problem is that I don't have a gaming PC.
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,275 Valuable Player
    Spuzzum said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Spuzzum said:
    I find the Quest way better than the CV1. Less SDE, and it seems they're using either some kind of supersampling, or antialiasing. With the CV1, while in Oculus Home, the ropes of the ships in the harbour are a shimmering mess with jagged edges. But with the Quest and Link...they're smooth. The Quest also has better optics than the CV1.
    You do realise that there are graphics setting within Oculus Home to improve all that?  On Dash/settings/graphics select both options.  Using your left controller menu/ preferences/graphics you can select high.  On top of all that, with OTT you can select global SS = 2.0.  I assure you that if you do all that (and have a good enough PC to do this btw) then the CV1 will look fantastic.

    You think I don't know this? I'm talking bare bones out of the box, without having to adjust any other settings? Even Link has settings in Nvidia control panel. You love your Rift CV1...congrats. I prefer the Quest. Now bugger off about it already.
    Sorry but this is hard to do when you post so many silly, inaccurate cv1/quest link comparisons.

    Maybe if you had enough PC power and smarts to improve your Rift CV1 performance to begin with, you would know better. Sadly, this does not seem to be the case, lol!

    Custom built gaming desktop; i9 9900k (water cooled) oc to 5ghz, gtx 1080 ti, 32 gb 3000hz ram, 1 tb ssd, 4 tb hdd.  Asus  ROG Maximus xi hero wifi mb, StarTech 4 port/4 controller sata powered usb3.0 pcie card, PCI-E PCI Express to USB 3.1 Gen 2 card, Asus VG248QE 1080p 144hz gaming monitor, Oculus Rift cv1 w/2x sensors, Vive Pro w/2.0 base stations/controllers, Quest w/Link and VD wireless (good/close 5Ghz wifi and PC with Ethernet cable to my Router).

  • SpuzzumSpuzzum Posts: 843
    3Jane
    edited December 2019
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Spuzzum said:
    TomCgcmfc said:
    Spuzzum said:
    I find the Quest way better than the CV1. Less SDE, and it seems they're using either some kind of supersampling, or antialiasing. With the CV1, while in Oculus Home, the ropes of the ships in the harbour are a shimmering mess with jagged edges. But with the Quest and Link...they're smooth. The Quest also has better optics than the CV1.
    You do realise that there are graphics setting within Oculus Home to improve all that?  On Dash/settings/graphics select both options.  Using your left controller menu/ preferences/graphics you can select high.  On top of all that, with OTT you can select global SS = 2.0.  I assure you that if you do all that (and have a good enough PC to do this btw) then the CV1 will look fantastic.

    You think I don't know this? I'm talking bare bones out of the box, without having to adjust any other settings? Even Link has settings in Nvidia control panel. You love your Rift CV1...congrats. I prefer the Quest. Now bugger off about it already.
    Sorry but this is hard to do when you post so many silly, inaccurate cv1/quest link comparisons.

    Maybe if you had enough PC power and smarts to improve your Rift CV1 performance to begin with, you would know better. Sadly, this does not seem to be the case, lol!

    Dude...do you even own a Quest? Last I heard, that was strong NO. Therefore, you have no freaking idea what you're comparing to. I have both a CV1 and a Quest. I know what the difference is just by looking at it. Do you? No.

    As for my pc not being powerful enough...lol. i7-7700K @ 4.7GHz, 32GB DDR4-3200, and a 1080Ti, clocked at 1900MHz.



    Yeah...way too slow for a 2.0 SS. o.O

    CV1 is 2160x1200, or 1080x1200 per eye. So a 2.0 SS would be 2160x2400...per eye.
    SuperPosition Benchmark Utility, starts the Rift CV1 as 1382x1586 per eye. So, roughly ~1.28 SS.

    I bumped it to 2664x3172...2.0 on top of the initial 1382x1586 the program starts with...



    Seriously dude...you're worse than a 15 year old fanboy. Go away.
  • KentobiKentobi Posts: 170
    Art3mis
    What is CV1? and are there any games on steam I can play with quest.
    My major problem is that I don't have a gaming PC.
    If you don’t have a gaming PC, then you only want a quest. The Rift requires a PC. 
  • Infante_H.Infante_H. Posts: 5
    NerveGear
    I am thinking of getting the Quest, and can I play any steam VR game with Oculus Link on Quest?
  • Infante_H.Infante_H. Posts: 5
    NerveGear
    My computer is an old Mac so i will probably be limited to the quest games.
    But I have recently discovered an app which you can download for the Quest, connect it to your computer and a game pad, and then you can do whatever you want , that you could do in the computer! Even play Fortnite for example!
  • TomCgcmfcTomCgcmfc Posts: 2,275 Valuable Player
    My computer is an old Mac so i will probably be limited to the quest games.
    But I have recently discovered an app which you can download for the Quest, connect it to your computer and a game pad, and then you can do whatever you want , that you could do in the computer! Even play Fortnite for example!
    To run Quest PC Link you still need a win10 VR capable PC.  See the Oculus website for recommended specs.  An old Mac is not going to run this imho.

    Custom built gaming desktop; i9 9900k (water cooled) oc to 5ghz, gtx 1080 ti, 32 gb 3000hz ram, 1 tb ssd, 4 tb hdd.  Asus  ROG Maximus xi hero wifi mb, StarTech 4 port/4 controller sata powered usb3.0 pcie card, PCI-E PCI Express to USB 3.1 Gen 2 card, Asus VG248QE 1080p 144hz gaming monitor, Oculus Rift cv1 w/2x sensors, Vive Pro w/2.0 base stations/controllers, Quest w/Link and VD wireless (good/close 5Ghz wifi and PC with Ethernet cable to my Router).

  • Infante_H.Infante_H. Posts: 5
    NerveGear
    ok
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,822 Volunteer Moderator
    The debate was getting a bit heated there, can I ask to take it down a notch or two. I know it's a thing when we start comparing headsets but let's keep it friendly. Also, the thread is really about comparing Rift-S and Quest so perhaps avoiding CV1 in comparisons will help a bit! 
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