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GTX 1080 vs 2080 graphics card

gtx1080gtx1080 Posts: 42
Brain Burst
Had the Rift  S for a while now and just getting around to seting it up for the first time.  To take advantage of the better lenses and resolution do you think its worth it to move up to a 2080 card ( I do like the ray tracing that the 2080 offers)  Will sell my mint GTX 1080 founders edition.
Can I sell it on this forum?
Thank you

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  • Eradicator99Eradicator99 Posts: 25
    Brain Burst
    You already know used cards are not in demand even a very nice card like yours.

     I run the 2080Black on a Z390 mobo w/I7/8700, 32ram, 2- M2 drives......zero stuttering in any resolution.

    erad


  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    Wait for the 3080 series expected in June - 2080 is max 30% faster than 1080. 
    Intel i7 7700K (4.5 GHz); MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Gaming X (oc 2100 MHz gpu boost, 11 GHz mem speed); 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 MHz; MSI Z270I Gaming Pro Carbon AC (VR-Ready) mainboard; Samsung 960 Evo M.2 SSD + Toshiba P300 HD; Windows 10 OS; Valve Index and Oculus Rift CV1 - the latter nearly always using super sampling 2.0. 

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  • kobs57kobs57 Posts: 177
    Art3mis
    The 2080 is a lot better than the 1080 on many points but your ray tracing is not one of them, no game to date takes advantage of that feature so far and for the price personally, I would keep my 1080 for a while longer till the 2080 goes down in price it won't be long, There's always something better coming out next year 
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  • gtx1080gtx1080 Posts: 42
    Brain Burst
    Thanx to all, I will wait
  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 457
    Nexus 6
    gtx1080 said:
    Thanx to all, I will wait
    I'll swap you my 1050Ti for the 1080  B)
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  • kobs57kobs57 Posts: 177
    Art3mis
    Better yet I'll give you 75 cents for every dollar LOL
    VR dedicated computer...AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, 
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     MSI 1070-TI,  on a MSI B-450 Gaming plus motherboard,
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  • RichooalRichooal Posts: 1,435
    Project 2501
    gtx1080 said:
    Can I sell it on this forum?
    Thank you

    It's against forum rules to attempt to sell anything on this forum (apparently).

    I have to ask the question..... will you be changing your username every time you buy new hardware?
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  • kobs57kobs57 Posts: 177
    Art3mis
    RuneSR2 said:
    Wait for the 3080 series expected in June - 2080 is max 30% faster than 1080. 
    A 1080 is "barely" faster than my 1070 TI which is why I bought it. Was $250 less

    VR dedicated computer...AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, 
    32 gigs of Corsair Vengence RGB memory,
     MSI 1070-TI,  on a MSI B-450 Gaming plus motherboard,
    EVGA super nova 1000 Watt PSU
    Oculus is on a Samsung 970 evo M.2 V nand 1TB on board SSD   
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    kobs57 said:
    RuneSR2 said:
    Wait for the 3080 series expected in June - 2080 is max 30% faster than 1080. 
    A 1080 is "barely" faster than my 1070 TI which is why I bought it. Was $250 less


    Agreed, 1080 is just 5% faster than 1070 Ti 8GB. 

    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-gtx-1070-ti-gaming/30.html

    If I had a 1070 Ti 8GB I'd wait for Ampere too and not make a late jump to Turing. 
    Intel i7 7700K (4.5 GHz); MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Gaming X (oc 2100 MHz gpu boost, 11 GHz mem speed); 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 MHz; MSI Z270I Gaming Pro Carbon AC (VR-Ready) mainboard; Samsung 960 Evo M.2 SSD + Toshiba P300 HD; Windows 10 OS; Valve Index and Oculus Rift CV1 - the latter nearly always using super sampling 2.0. 

    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    gtx1080 said:
    Had the Rift  S for a while now and just getting around to seting it up for the first time.  To take advantage of the better lenses and resolution do you think its worth it to move up to a 2080 card ( I do like the ray tracing that the 2080 offers)  Will sell my mint GTX 1080 founders edition.
    Can I sell it on this forum?
    Thank you
    If you have not already done so, now may be the time to burn the midnight oil and overclock the 1080 as much as possible. I got mine up to 2100 Mhz boost and from 10Ghz to 11Ghz mem speed. It all helps - and it's free ;)
    Intel i7 7700K (4.5 GHz); MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Gaming X (oc 2100 MHz gpu boost, 11 GHz mem speed); 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 MHz; MSI Z270I Gaming Pro Carbon AC (VR-Ready) mainboard; Samsung 960 Evo M.2 SSD + Toshiba P300 HD; Windows 10 OS; Valve Index and Oculus Rift CV1 - the latter nearly always using super sampling 2.0. 

    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • kobs57kobs57 Posts: 177
    Art3mis
    edited February 8
    RuneSR2 said:
    kobs57 said:
    RuneSR2 said:
    Wait for the 3080 series expected in June - 2080 is max 30% faster than 1080. 
    A 1080 is "barely" faster than my 1070 TI which is why I bought it. Was $250 less


    Agreed, 1080 is just 5% faster than 1070 Ti 8GB. 

    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-gtx-1070-ti-gaming/30.html

    If I had a 1070 Ti 8GB I'd wait for Ampere too and not make a late jump to Turing. 
    I wanted to get a 20 something too, but to have a significant jump I would've had to get a $1500 to $1800  2080 TI  11 Gb card
    VR dedicated computer...AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, 
    32 gigs of Corsair Vengence RGB memory,
     MSI 1070-TI,  on a MSI B-450 Gaming plus motherboard,
    EVGA super nova 1000 Watt PSU
    Oculus is on a Samsung 970 evo M.2 V nand 1TB on board SSD   
  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,362 Valuable Player
    edited February 8
    RuneSR2 said:
    Wait for the 3080 series ....
    That's what people were saying to me last year - I bought the 2080Ti regardless and don't regret it for a second :)

    PS - I did do a lot of shopping around and it cost me £800 in the end - which isn't that bad, considering.




  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    edited February 8
    £800 is a great price for a 2080 Ti. But I like to feel a massive change when upgrading gpu, so I want one that can turn all my 45 fps into 90, and maybe even open the road for 120 and 144 fps without reducing ss a lot. - Intesting if 3080 (Ti) will be at least 100% faster than GTX 1080. Also I'd like less the 250w power consumption, and Nvidia seems to have already promised reduced power consumption with 7nm Ampere (Turing is 12nm, Pascal is 16nm).

    Asw 2.0 has been my saviour for long - it's so good I don't much notice if I got solid 90 fps or 45 fps asw in Stormland. 
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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,362 Valuable Player
    Well I had a 2060 beforehand, so the difference was plenty :)




  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    Agreed, if I had a GTX 1060, then RTX 2080 Ti would have provided more than 100% of extra performance - that would have made sense to me, but not with a 1080. But of course each to his own - I'm just quite sure that my performance in Lone Echo would still be 45 fps asw after upgrading to 2080 Ti, but I hope it will be solid 90 after getting a 3080 (Ti). Also have an Index to feed, it has a giant gpu appetite, lol. 
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,362 Valuable Player
    edited February 9
    tbh I don't know what my framerate in Lone Echo is, I never checked. I did play it on Quest and Index, but both with the 2080Ti. I don't usually care what the framerate is if everything is running smoothly - I only check if I'm having issues.

    However, my performance in other games has skyrocketed - especially things like DCS World and I've not had the issues people have complained about with Fallout4VR and SkyrimVR - and with the Index on 90Hz and 150% res they look and play just fantastic.

    My initial point wasn't about a comparison, though, it was about whether to get the card or wait for something else. As someone on reddit said in answer to the same query - there will always be something else round the corner. I've had my card for almost 6 months now - and back then the advice many gave was "the 3000 series is just about to be released" - so my policy is, unless we have solid confirmation it's just a month or so away and we know what is coming with it, go with the best of what you can get right now.
    I'm going to be enjoying this card for a good few years, I'll bet - and as I update the other hardware in my PC, my experience should get better and better, especially in VR, as I work my way up the refresh and resolution scales. I'm really excited about what I'll be able to do with this card in a couple of years - I don't really care what else has come out in the meantime, this was my choice - and it's a great bit of kit. Know what I mean?




  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    edited February 9
    Of course there's nothing solid, but best guess right now points to 3080 launching in June - in 4 months:

    https://uk.pcmag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/123557/report-nvidia-rtx-3080-cards-launch-june-2020

    I use CV1 ss 2.0 in nearly all games - asw 2.0 works great and I don't mind the wait - of course unless Alyx runs really bad ;) But right now I get solid 90 fps in Boneworks Index res 200% plus 2xMSAA - seems that game does not require much gpu power - making the 1080 perform great, and that goes for Saints & Sinners too. 

    Btw, I think the original discussion was about going from 1080 to 2080 non-Ti, and to me such a limited 30% gain would not be worth the hassle. 
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  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,362 Valuable Player
    Oh a standard 2080? I thought it was the Ti - my mistake.

    I've not done any testing to see what it can do - I just set it to what Steam recommended and as i was happy with that, I just left it there. It may be way better, but right now I just have far too much going on to have time for testing and adjusting.

    I did just watch a video from nVidia showing Call of Duty Modern Warfare (which i got free with my card) with RTX and it does really look The Business. I wasn't massively impressed with Quake II RTX - yes, it was clearer and brighter, but not so sure if it actually made the game experience better.







  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    edited February 9
    I've read that a Geforce 3080Ti might only increase the performance of Ray Tracing and might not be such a big leap up from a Geforce 2080Ti. Guess we'll have to wait to find out if that's true or not.
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    edited February 9
    RedRizla said:
    I've read that a Geforce 3080Ti might only increase the performance of Ray Tracing and might not be such a big leap up from a Geforce 2080Ti. Guess we'll have to wait to find out if that's true or not.
    I'd be happy for a 20-30 % leap over 2080 Ti, we'll see. 

    20% faster than Rtx 2080 Ti would make the 3080 Ti twice as fast as a 1080.

    Would also like 3080 Ti to use 200w or less. Intersting how the plain vanilla 3080 will perform.
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    edited February 10
    Btw, this sounds nearly too good to be true:

    NVIDIA Ampere GPU: 50% faster than Turing at HALF the power?!

    NVIDIA Ampere GPU rumor states the next-gen 7nm GPU will be a MONSTER

    "Taipei Times is reporting from a client note by Yuanta Securities Investment Consulting Co that NVIDIA's new Ampere GPU would have a 50% increase in graphics performance while "halving power consumption". NVIDIA has been king of efficiency for a while now and that is on the 16nm, 14nm, and 12nm nodes -- but it looks like it has struck lightning on 7nm if these rumors are true. We could well see the '50% faster performance' in the ray tracing (RT) side of things, and not a general 50% performance improvement."
    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player

    Intel i7 7700K (4.5 GHz); MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Gaming X (oc 2100 MHz gpu boost, 11 GHz mem speed); 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 MHz; MSI Z270I Gaming Pro Carbon AC (VR-Ready) mainboard; Samsung 960 Evo M.2 SSD + Toshiba P300 HD; Windows 10 OS; Valve Index and Oculus Rift CV1 - the latter nearly always using super sampling 2.0. 

    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • JD-UKJD-UK Posts: 2,362 Valuable Player
    edited February 10
    If that was really the case I could see it being well out of my price range - for a high-end one, in any case. I know people think they 'learned' from the 2000 pricing experience, but I see 2080Ti everywhere I go on the 'net, so they can't have sold that badly - and considering it's the flagship model.

    They will also be wanting to recoup some of the millions they've lost due to the Coranavirus effect imho. (edit "They" meaning Chinese industry as whole, not nVidia on their own :)  )




  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 4,858 Valuable Player
    Rumor has it Ampere also will be cheaper than Turing, also slightly "confirmed" here:

    https://www.tomsguide.com/news/rtx-3080

    Guess speed, price and power consumption are all reasons why I'm greatly anticipating the Ampere arrival. It may be the gpu to increase VR adoption a lot - also Nvidia may face competition from AMD and Sony's PS5 (and a new XBox?) making the Ampere launch a lot different from the Turing launch. Maybe...
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    "Ask not what VR can do for you – ask what you can do for VR"
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2 said:
    Rumor has it Ampere also will be cheaper than Turing, also slightly "confirmed" here:

    https://www.tomsguide.com/news/rtx-3080

    Guess speed, price and power consumption are all reasons why I'm greatly anticipating the Ampere arrival. It may be the gpu to increase VR adoption a lot - also Nvidia may face competition from AMD and Sony's PS5 (and a new XBox?) making the Ampere launch a lot different from the Turing launch. Maybe...
    Yeah, NVIDIA will have to get their prices right because people will just turn away from PC gaming if they continue pricing their cards too high. I'm still getting a PlayStation 5 though, because I think Sony's next VR headset will be great and they have a good VR game library I want to play through. I'll finally be able to play Resident Evil etc.
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