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New HTC Range - The Thread

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

HTC adds three new members to the Vive Cosmos family: Elite, XR and Play

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https://chinese.engadget.com/chinese-2020-02-19-htc-vive-cosmos-elite-xr-play.html

https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
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inovator
Consultant
Lol

TomCgcmfc
MVP
MVP

inovator said:

Lol


Probably all you will ever know mate.  Very sad for you.
i9 13900K water cooled, RTX4090, Z790 MB w/wifi6e, 32Gb 6400 ram, 2x2TB SSD, 1000W PSU, Win 11, QPro, Q3, w/Link and Air Link, Vive Pro1 with Etsy lens mod and Index Controllers

inovator
Consultant
Lol

RuneSR2
Grand Champion

TomCgcmfc said:


it's  probably going to take the ~$200 SteamVR faceplate (together with my current Vive Pro 2.0 base stations/controllers) to make it my favorite Wireless VR headset.  Time will tell, but at least I will actually know.


Agreed, maybe even combined with Index controllers you'd have a VR solution close to the Index. 

Btw, HTC supports VR adoption, I do not think the world would be a better place without HTC and I appreciate their effort trying to make great hmds. Not all companies have a Carmack and Abrash etc. to help them, and of course there will be differences. That said, HTC does deserve credit for delivering (part of) what some may consider the best current high-end VR solution for gaming, namely Vive Pro (Gen2 high-res oled) with base stations 2.0 and Index controllers. 

Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

bigmike20vt
Visionary

TomCgcmfc said:

If you are silly enough to believe every negative review you would not buy anything imho.


It's a fair point but even you are not arguing that the tracking as as good as a rift S.
For me the rift S is the absolute base level for what I want for controller tracking (and even then I would miss the superior tracking of outside in lighthouse or constellation).
The fact that even you are saying it really needs the light house module means that people concluding tracking is sub par are probably not wrong......
Yes personal experience is gonna trump 3rd person reviews.
Look at it this way.... People could tell you along with 100s  of  reviews  TVRs are fantastic cars but godawful reliability.   

You could of course discount them all and buy one yourself expecting the reliability of a family hatchback..

But you WILL be in for a shock. Impartial reviews usually are more accurate than not.
Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR 🙂

Anonymous
Not applicable
But not at a decent price. Again. They just don't seem to learn any lessons at all from previous mistakes. And these mistakes have been repeated continuously for the last 15 years or so.

If you're going to pay $900 for a Cosmos with Vive wands and 1.0 base stations you might as well pay an extra $100 and get a Valve Index headset with 2.0 base stations and Knuckles controllers.

bigmike20vt
Visionary

snowdog said:

But not at a decent price. Again. They just don't seem to learn any lessons at all from previous mistakes. And these mistakes have been repeated continuously for the last 15 years or so.

If you're going to pay $900 for a Cosmos with Vive wands and 1.0 base stations you might as well pay an extra $100 and get a Valve Index headset with 2.0 base stations and Knuckles controllers.


Agreed. Unless you absolutely must have OLED (in which case there is maybe an argument for a Vive pro bundle) if you are wanting to pay in the region of 1K for a headset it's hard to look beyond the index.... Maybe pimax 8KX but given past issues with their headsets that would have to be a try before I buy at that price.
Fiat Coupe, gone. 350Z gone. Dirty nappies, no sleep & practical transport incoming. Thank goodness for VR 🙂

inovator
Consultant



TomCgcmfc said:

If you are silly enough to believe every negative review you would not buy anything imho.


It's a fair point but even you are not arguing that the tracking as as good as a rift S.
For me the rift S is the absolute base level for what I want for controller tracking (and even then I would miss the superior tracking of outside in lighthouse or constellation).
The fact that even you are saying it really needs the light house module means that people concluding tracking is sub par are probably not wrong......
Yes personal experience is gonna trump 3rd person reviews.
Look at it this way.... People could tell you along with 100s  of  reviews  TVRs are fantastic cars but godawful reliability.   

You could of course discount them all and buy one yourself expecting the reliability of a family hatchback..

But you WILL be in for a shock. Impartial reviews usually are more accurate than not.


Someone here that bought a cosmos says it's making tracking progress. Not true. Here's a feb. Review after latest cosmos update;https://youtu.be/sFGKMFVQzJI

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

HTC new CEO confirms company’s ‘new vision,’ virtual reality, and the rivalry with Facebook

> "Our approach from a hardware perspective is more of a segmented approach, where we try to understand what the experience should be, and what our customers want. Mostly B2B enterprise. They are very, very precise. We started with a very accurate precision type of product, and we go down in terms of the precision to a normal user."

https://fortune.com/2020/…/20/htc-ceo-yves-maitre-cosmos-vr/

https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

inovator
Consultant

kevinw729 said:

HTC new CEO confirms company’s ‘new vision,’ virtual reality, and the rivalry with Facebook

> "Our approach from a hardware perspective is more of a segmented approach, where we try to understand what the experience should be, and what our customers want. Mostly B2B enterprise. They are very, very precise. We started with a very accurate precision type of product, and we go down in terms of the precision to a normal user."

https://fortune.com/2020/…/20/htc-ceo-yves-maitre-cosmos-vr/



That CEO is insane. He talks about they started with an accurate precision product. They then ended with a hot mess (cosmos)  he has alot of nerve talking about how wonderful they are when they released a fraud of a product.