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Aliens - Fact Or Fiction..?

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  • jayhawkjayhawk Posts: 824
    3Jane
    edited April 2019
    Zenbane said:
    I'm going to push for the side that argues: Nope. No Aliens.

    In order to travel from one galaxy to another, it takes light years. We'd have to believe that some species out there has advanced far beyond us to the point of traveling faster than the speed of light, or we'd have to believe that some alien species out there can live for hundreds of years. Imagine going on an airplane trip and not arriving at your destination for 80 years? You'd be dead unless you started before the age of 10.

    So sure, there may be life on other planets as either a single celled organism or complex organism. But have they traveled light years to visit Earth? Highly unlikely.

    Having said that, I had a buddy who told me an interesting theory that I really liked. He said that Aliens are a species of advanced creatures that live inside our Oceans. Think Aquaman here. And they come up and out of our oceans to visit land dwellers from time to time. And that is where the footage comes from. I like this theory because it's unique; our oceans are vast and still a mystery to scientists; and it makes something feasible beyond the Science Fiction notion of traveling faster than the speed of light in a spaceship.
    I think your reply was great. 
    No particular religious affiliation. After doing his own research he came to the conclusion 'aliens' were hyper-dimensional. Not coming from the ocean or vast amounts of space, but an 'unseen by our eyes' dimension. He also found a lot of similarities between demonic possession and alien abduction.
    There's the hollow Earth idea too which can be fun to look into. Me personally, I don't believe in space aliens, but I most certainly believe in anti-grav craft. I don't think it was a coincidence Germans were working on this during WWII, and all the UFO sightings, including the one that really set it all off in Roswell happened just a few years after. That's another rabbit hole (base in Antarctica)
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    edited April 2019
    I found this video fascinating because it has being studied for years by scientists. Watch it all and draw your own conclusions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9sUqEQelU
  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,688 Valuable Player

    So guys I have a feeling if you do not already listen to this podcast you would enjoy it.

    I know I do.

    http://www.blurryphotos.org/podcast/

    WAAAGH!
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Posts: 163
    Art3mis
    Another interesting podcast here, with the very intelligent Natalya Bailey, rocket scientist, interviewed by physicist Sean Carroll.  It's related, I promise (in the last third she indulges in some educated speculation regarding ET intelligence and interstellar travel):

    https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2019/04/15/episode-42-natalya-bailey-on-navigating-earth-orbit-and-beyond/
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    She is, of course, wrong. They're not only out there but they're here too. I honestly believe that. There are just too many (5%) unexplained UFO sightings for there not to be ANY proper spacecraft flying around this planet.

    And we may find out sooner rather than later too:



    NASA are planning on using the Moon (and other planetary bodies) as a checkpoint, extracting water, oxygen and hydrogen from the moon surface. They reckon they'll have it all sorted around 2024.

    I might have to put myself up for astronautship soon so I can be one of the first to go B)

    Using these checkpoints will mean that we can go longer distances stocking up on air, water and fuel as we go, so even if we can't get folding space sorted out we can spend years exploring our solar system without needing to come back. Radiation will probably be a problem though I would have thought but I'm sure these boffins can solve that problem too.

    And according to Noah The Time Traveller they'll reveal themselves in 2028 during which time I'll post a big I TOLD YOU SO post in this thread. They'll probably reveal themselves when we start to go beyond the Moon in space exploration I reckon.
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,564 Volunteer Moderator
    snowdog said:

    And according to Noah The Time Traveller they'll reveal themselves in 2028

    I had 2 nice, smartly dressed people knock on my door last month (I won't say what organisation they represented due to forum rules) but they too used to predict a certain catastrophic even in the not to distant future. I believe they revised their date 2 or 3 times as the dates passed by, before deciding it was best not to predict a date at all.

    I hope you're not going to establish a cult Snow and start knocking on my door.

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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    I've thought about it, great way to get plenty of sex and loads of cash. I should be fine as long as I don't start branding people lol  :D

    There used to be a bunch of religious nutjobs at what used to the the Rainbow Theatre at Finsbury Park in the 90s. They had signs up saying that the world was going to end on a certain date.

    I made a deal with them, if the world ends then I'll believe in their nonsense, if it doesn't end then they should knock it on the head.

    Needless to say they were still there a week later and they're probably still there now so they went back on our deal lol :D

    Such a shame that the place used to ooze sex 'n' drugs 'n' rock 'n' roll in the 70s, and in the 90s it was oozing superstitious nonsense :(
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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    edited May 2019
    The only thing I don't get about the universe is that if it's is expanding, then what is it expanding into? If you blow up a balloon then the balloon is expanding into something like a room. So what is the universe expanding into exactly? Say it hit a brick wall it would be no longer expending into anything and would eventually go bang due to the pressure.
  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,564 Volunteer Moderator
    Ah well it's space itself that's expanding so there's no need for a something for the universe to expand into.

    If this were a 2 dimensional world, it would be like we're on the surface of an expanding balloon... there's no other 2 dimensional something that the balloon's surface is expanding into and the third dimentional space that the balloon is expanding into isn't perceived by our 2 dimensional thinking.
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  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 15,014 Valuable Player
    pyroth309 said:
    When I turned around, my girlfriend at the time told me I should look down. I did and noticed I was in my boxers and my junk was hanging out lol. Oh well

    Epic!


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  • KlodsBrikKlodsBrik Posts: 1,201
    Wintermute
    Usually I invite them inside to talk about Satanism.
     Two times Ive some quite interesting talks with cultist's tho in the opposite end of the spectre.

    But 95% of the time they don't feel the need to talk to me when i mention satan :(

    ( BTW im not a satanist. I called myself that when I was younger. Still learned a lot by reading up on stuff, and making up my mind on how I believe evolution, god , greatness and what it means to be human through that period of my life.)
    Be good, die great !
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    pyroth309 said:
    Zenbane said:

    Several years ago, one of those smartly dressed people told me that I was going to a very bad place that is super crazy hot and lacking in a local water system. I'm glad that they took my advice when I said, "That's enough. You need to stop speaking and walk away." Else I might be making this post from the Texas Prison System.
    I had some knock on my door when I was hung over one time. I ignored the first 3 knocks but on the 4th one I lost my shit. Head was pounding and I threw the door open and saw them and they were both looking at me with shocked look which confused me. I told them that nothing they had to say interested me and slammed the door. When I turned around, my girlfriend at the time told me I should look down. I did and noticed I was in my boxers and my junk was hanging out lol. Oh well

    I have also done this, also with a hangover, but my junk wasn't on display, just nekked apart from my boxer shorts. The two young ladies didn't knock on my door again lol :D
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    KlodsBrik said:
    Usually I invite them inside to talk about Satanism.
     Two times Ive some quite interesting talks with cultist's tho in the opposite end of the spectre.

    But 95% of the time they don't feel the need to talk to me when i mention satan :(

    ( BTW im not a satanist. I called myself that when I was younger. Still learned a lot by reading up on stuff, and making up my mind on how I believe evolution, god , greatness and what it means to be human through that period of my life.)

    I have also done this too, but not to anyone knocking on my door. I've done this to people approaching me on the street. When done with a few twitches and wide eyes it works great lololol :D
    "This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    Also, has anyone else found it a bit odd that we're focussing so much attention on the Moon again? What with the Chinese rover and now NASA looking at travelling to the Moon again, it's all a bit odd and a bit sudden I think. Although using the Moon as a checkpoint makes sense as far as NASA is concerned, but I've no idea why China are looking at the dark side of the Moon...



    Could be aliens. :oB)
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    And no combo breakerers. Quadruple posts FTW!!!!!!!! :D
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  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,688 Valuable Player
    Go to bed Snow!
    WAAAGH!
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    Ah well it's space itself that's expanding so there's no need for a something for the universe to expand into.

    If this were a 2 dimensional world, it would be like we're on the surface of an expanding balloon... there's no other 2 dimensional something that the balloon's surface is expanding into and the third dimentional space that the balloon is expanding into isn't perceived by our 2 dimensional thinking.

    I get what you're saying, but that's not to say that the universe isn't expanding into something else. 
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 15,014 Valuable Player
    KlodsBrik said:
    Usually I invite them inside to talk about Satanism.
     Two times Ive some quite interesting talks with cultist's tho in the opposite end of the spectre.

    But 95% of the time they don't feel the need to talk to me when i mention satan :(

    ( BTW im not a satanist. I called myself that when I was younger. Still learned a lot by reading up on stuff, and making up my mind on how I believe evolution, god , greatness and what it means to be human through that period of my life.)

    My first year of undergrad university, I wrote a paper on Modern Satanism. I love studying all forms of theology.
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,564 Volunteer Moderator
    RedRizla said:
    Ah well it's space itself that's expanding so there's no need for a something for the universe to expand into.

    If this were a 2 dimensional world, it would be like we're on the surface of an expanding balloon... there's no other 2 dimensional something that the balloon's surface is expanding into and the third dimentional space that the balloon is expanding into isn't perceived by our 2 dimensional thinking.

    I get what you're saying, but that's not to say that the universe isn't expanding into something else. 

    ah but there is nothing else to expand into... the universe by definition is everything.

    As well as expanding, space (or more accurately space-time) is curved so that if you travel in a straight line you'll end up back where you started eventually. So the universe is expanding without expanding into anything, infinite and closed all at the same time.

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  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    edited May 2019
    RedRizla said:
    Ah well it's space itself that's expanding so there's no need for a something for the universe to expand into.

    If this were a 2 dimensional world, it would be like we're on the surface of an expanding balloon... there's no other 2 dimensional something that the balloon's surface is expanding into and the third dimentional space that the balloon is expanding into isn't perceived by our 2 dimensional thinking.

    I get what you're saying, but that's not to say that the universe isn't expanding into something else. 

    ah but there is nothing else to expand into... the universe by definition is everything.

    As well as expanding, space (or more accurately space-time) is curved so that if you travel in a straight line you'll end up back where you started eventually. So the universe is expanding without expanding into anything, infinite and closed all at the same time.


    I think one of these is plausible.

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/five-weird-theories-of-what-lies-outside-the-universe-5799335
  • ZenbaneZenbane Posts: 15,014 Valuable Player
    I think I found the aliens!




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  • DuxCroDuxCro Posts: 54
    Hiro Protagonist
    No. There are no aliens. This entire galaxy and BILLIONS of other galaxies have been created just for humans by some supreme being we call God. Because we are special MOFO's. :D
  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    My Mum says I'm special. I went to a Special School and everything :D
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  • Hiro_Protag0nistHiro_Protag0nist Posts: 4,960 Valuable Player
    Definitely some aliens up there somewhere but the fact that we can't get out of earth's orbit means we'll never meet up with them... :|
  • MorgrumMorgrum Posts: 1,688 Valuable Player
    Definitely some aliens up there somewhere but the fact that we can't get out of earth's orbit means we'll never meet up with them... :|
    You do realize that we can get out of Earths orbit right?
    Heck Voyager 2 entered the boundry of Intersteller space a few years ago. 
    Though it only has a few years of power left it will still continue its route forever unless its hits an object in the Oort cloud on the way out of our system.
    42000 years from now its supposed to get within 2 AU of another star.
    WAAAGH!
  • RedRizlaRedRizla Posts: 6,989 Valuable Player
    edited February 29
    I wanted to know more about this phenomena but couldn't find anything more about it. Looked like it was legit with all the scientists involved, but this is all I could find about it so I'm not sure if it's just a clever hoax. You would think scientist would be all over this if it's still happening to this day, or even UFO researchers.

    Edit: Oh I did find more about it just recently. This seems like the latest update to the phenomena.










  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    Morgrum said:
    Definitely some aliens up there somewhere but the fact that we can't get out of earth's orbit means we'll never meet up with them... :|
    You do realize that we can get out of Earths orbit right?
    Heck Voyager 2 entered the boundry of Intersteller space a few years ago. 
    Though it only has a few years of power left it will still continue its route forever unless its hits an object in the Oort cloud on the way out of our system.
    42000 years from now its supposed to get within 2 AU of another star.

    Have you gone INSANE?!!?

    We can't get out of orbit because the world is flat. Every time you launch something it crashes against the firmament thingummybob.
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  • snowdogsnowdog Posts: 7,371 Valuable Player
    I've just been thinking about this Kung Flu thing. What if...



     :o 
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