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can u make GeForce MX230 support oculus link? pls

alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
NerveGear
i buy the wire for oculus link my laptop is compatable with oculus link exept my GPU so plz make it support

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  • uKERuKER Posts: 176
    Art3mis
    edited June 2
    Here's the performance of your MX230 compared to the 1060, which is the baseline performance to run VR.
    Just skip the numbers and look at the colored bars.

    https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-MX230-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060/4036vs3548

    You're hopelessly SOL, man.
  • Digikid1Digikid1 Posts: 2,309 Valuable Player
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO it simply does not work that way.  The MX230 is far too weak.  Get a new laptop
  • MegalithikMegalithik Posts: 26
    Brain Burst
    No chance.  In a laptop you need a 1070 or better according to official support documents.
  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 812
    Trinity
    I hope he did not buy the official cable !  :open_mouth:
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  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    edited June 2
    ):
  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    Umpa no i dint buy offcial cable i buy one at amazon

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,580 Valuable Player
    uKER said:
    Here's the performance of your MX230 compared to the 1060, which is the baseline performance to run VR.
    Just skip the numbers and look at the colored bars.

    https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-MX230-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060/4036vs3548

    You're hopelessly SOL, man.

    Ow, man - so - between the lines - I kinda get the vibe that you don't think I can use Oculus Link too?  :'(

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  • konuiakonuia Posts: 14
    Brain Burst
    Simply the MX230 is too weak to run any modern game. You'll need to upgrade otherwise you can kiss your gaming experience goodbye
  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    ): but it runs a lot of games
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,580 Valuable Player
    ): but it runs a lot of games
    What games can you play using Oculus Link?

    Note playing games without Oculus Link is not the same as playing with Oculus Link. Without Link, you use the build-in Quest gpu, but using Link you rely on the gpu in your laptop. 
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  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    RuneSR2  it wont work oculus app

    i only want this gpu support for play my dream games

    i cant do vr if the gpu support
  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,580 Valuable Player
    edited June 7
    RuneSR2  it wont work oculus app

    i only want this gpu support for play my dream games

    i cant do vr if the gpu support

    Ok, so Quest works fine without the Link cable, and you cannot use the Oculus Link cable. Note, you will never be able to use a laptop with a GeForce MX230 gpu for VR. 

    To use Oculus Link you need a PC with the necessary system components as described here:

    https://support.oculus.com/444256562873335/
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  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    my laptop is way higher then recommand but gpu is downgrade

    but gpu cant be that bad right?
  • konuiakonuia Posts: 14
    Brain Burst
    my laptop is way higher then recommand but gpu is downgrade

    but gpu cant be that bad right?
    If you look at some benchmarks for a MX230 its obivous that it will be impossible to run any game at 1080p
  • MradrMradr Posts: 3,853 Valuable Player
    edited June 7
    my laptop is way higher then recommand but gpu is downgrade

    but gpu cant be that bad right?
    I think the problem is just understanding why VR is a bit more demanding than normal flat screen games. While your GPU is powerful enough to play most games you might like right now, VR requires 1.5x more performance because it has to render the game 2x one for each eye. Granted, some games will require more performance over others - it still holds you will want at least a 1060 or better GPU for VR even with Link. Only because, the devs are going to also think you have that card or better as well, so keeping in the require specs goes a long way in terms of not fighting issues in the future and a better experience for you.

    Future headsets might get around this limit once we have a better understanding and deployment rate of Eye Tracking and DFOVA. On the other hand, by then, new laptops and GPUs will be out... 
  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 812
    Trinity
    Its worth mentioning that Oculus Link worked ok with the 1050Ti.  Ok is a subjective word, some games performed better than others, but it did work.
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  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,580 Valuable Player
    edited June 8
    Umpa_PC said:
    Its worth mentioning that Oculus Link worked ok with the 1050Ti.  Ok is a subjective word, some games performed better than others, but it did work.
    The 1050 Ti is a mountain a raw super-power energy compared to MX230, lol

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-MX230/3649vsm746237
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  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 812
    Trinity
    RuneSR2 said:
    Umpa_PC said:
    Its worth mentioning that Oculus Link worked ok with the 1050Ti.  Ok is a subjective word, some games performed better than others, but it did work.
    The 1050 Ti is a mountain a raw super-power energy compared to MX230, lol

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-MX230/3649vsm746237
    Yes I know - I was replying to Mradr without quoting him.
    Specifically to the statement "it still holds you will want at least a 1060 or better GPU for VR even with Link"
    Whilst that may well be true, it does work with the 1050Ti.  I agree that the MX230 will not work, and will probably never work.  Well not in this simulation - lol.
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  • MradrMradr Posts: 3,853 Valuable Player
    edited June 8
    Umpa_PC said:
    RuneSR2 said:
    Umpa_PC said:
    Its worth mentioning that Oculus Link worked ok with the 1050Ti.  Ok is a subjective word, some games performed better than others, but it did work.
    The 1050 Ti is a mountain a raw super-power energy compared to MX230, lol

    https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-MX230/3649vsm746237
    Yes I know - I was replying to Mradr without quoting him.
    Specifically to the statement "it still holds you will want at least a 1060 or better GPU for VR even with Link"
    Whilst that may well be true, it does work with the 1050Ti.  I agree that the MX230 will not work, and will probably never work.  Well not in this simulation - lol.
    "Granted, some games will require more performance over others" - its not that the 1050TI can't do it - its how the software was program to keep maybe a bit below required specs to keep/maintain its frame rate. There is no perfect spec and benchmark that can be perform because hardware and software will very in what it needs. This is common knowledge or at least I hope it is. Short of that - this is why recommended is created - thus while the 1050TI might work - its not going to work across the board and thus not really recommended to say it should.

    This is why consoles were a big hit... didn't have to mess with details like this - either it work well for everyone on that platform or it didn't. With PCs we have the ability to scale thus to say to it should work for everyone usually means someone having an issue because they tried it out of spec or with a weird environment to see if it would work for them.
  • Umpa_PCUmpa_PC Posts: 812
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    edited June 8
    ^^^and that's why^^^
    I did not quote him.
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  • bigmike20vtbigmike20vt Posts: 4,195 Valuable Player
    RuneSR2  it wont work oculus app

    i only want this gpu support for play my dream games

    i cant do vr if the gpu support
    Honestly it is so far off being able to do VR just forget about it and enjoy your quest. You still have a great VR device and in the future when you are ready to upgrade your laptop come here and get help before you buy.
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  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    but if im play games on quest sometimes there is black screen idk how to fix it
  • alifaran004alifaran004 Posts: 21
    NerveGear
    Digikid1 said:
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
     why u laughing

  • RuneSR2RuneSR2 Posts: 5,580 Valuable Player
    edited June 12
    Digikid1 said:
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    why u laughing
    I think you're the one who should try to solve that riddle, note that this thread is filled with hints. Actually so many hints that the mods may consider closing this thread. 
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  • DaftnDirectDaftnDirect Posts: 5,813 Volunteer Moderator
    OK yeah, explanations have been given as to why the GPU in question can't be supported, namely that VR is much more demanding than non-VR games at any given resolution, and an MX230 isn't powerful enough for PC VR unfortunately.

    Without using Link, the Quest uses its own processing power to run less demanding games which have been developed to run well on that limited hardware. Using a Quest with Link turns it into a PC VR headset like the Rift and allows it access to Rift games that have been developed to use the power of PCs (or laptop's), those are entirely different games, or versions of games that couldn't otherwise be run on a Quest.

    Hope this sums things up ok and as @bigmike20vt said in his post, if you decide to upgrade, you're welcome to create a thread and ask for advice if you need it, thanks.
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