07-11-2020 02:51 PM
07-12-2020 08:31 AM
comatrix said:We ALL KNOW that
this is a new support, why not tell to people:- VR is on an embryonic phase, if you wish to join you are most than welcome, but be aware of what do you expectIt
is so hard to say that? Because it is exactly what it is
07-12-2020 12:14 PM
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
07-12-2020 07:15 PM
dhrto said:
I think this is clearly an issue of expectations. Set them (too) high and you will be disappointed, set them low (enough) and you will be (very) happy. @comatrix Personally I think your expectations were just (too) high, whereas the majority that reacted to you seem to have a lower expectation thus finding the Rift (S) fine. There's nothing wrong with having a very high expectation, but that means VR might not be for you just yet in its current state. However that doesn't mean that it's not ready for everybody else, cause expectations are very personal.
Just to add from my perspective: I think for its price point, it's not bad at all. Although I would have preferred Oculus kept developing a higher grade HMD ($1000+) just so people can have a choice.
TomCgcmfc said:
It seems to me that it's your skill level in VR that is in the Embryonic
Phase. Nothing wrong with that, we all started off as VR newbies.
Good results with PCVR does still requires a positive, enthusiastic
mindset, plus time to learn. I'm sure you will grow with it and
ultimately enjoy its many benefits.
Zenbane said:
VR is not new by any stretch of the imagination. The
CV1 for Rift and Vive were released in 2016. We ALL KNOW that 4 years
in Technology Time is like a decade. And this doesn't even count the
Demo Kit releases years prior.VR was in the embryonic phase when it began with Stereoscopic viewers and images in the 1800's.
https://www.vrs.org.uk/virtual-reality/history.htmlThat wasn't a typo. It literally began 2 centuries ago.We've
had a few VR HMD's along the way throughout human history. Most people
are aware of that fact, so you aren't really providing much insight.
Instead, it just looks like either:
- You went in to VR without knowing much about it.
- You spent too much money with your entry in to VR and set your expectations way too high as a result.
07-12-2020 07:23 PM
comatrix said:I went in VR for the first time,not knowing about about it, but reading and watching reviews and videos, I asked a lot and participating actively in 2 VR blogs to try to understand what it is BEFORE entering, and the expectations were disappointed compared on what it was as said.
I'm sorry too, and I'll say it again, you aren't really giving any compelling reasons; it just sounds like you have buyers remorse due to going too far out of budget.
For example, compare a VR Dashboard to any other Dashboard. Be specific. Compare the executables and running services to another non-VR product that you believe meets your standards.
I don't expect you to do that though, since I already asked you to list the software you tried, and you are intent on avoiding it. In fact, you are very much intent on avoiding all specifics of what you did exactly. It's almost as if you just took a bunch of pictures of products in boxes, and that's it.
If you really did give your first venture in to VR a try, then post videos, screenshots, reviews, etc. Be specific. Because right now, with all your posts intentionally avoiding anything specific, it is starting to seem like a ruse. Sorry, just being honest!
07-12-2020 07:30 PM
07-12-2020 07:43 PM
07-12-2020 08:07 PM
Zenbane said:
There's a bit of a contradiction. You went in to VR not knowing about it... and then you started knowing about it by reading, watching videos, participating in VR blogs, etc?You did all of that knowledge gaining BEFORE getting in to VR. Therefore, you went in to VR knowing about it.I'm sorry too, and I'll say it again, you aren't really giving any compelling reasons; it just sounds like you have buyers remorse due to going too far out of budget.
For example, compare a VR Dashboard to any other Dashboard. Be specific. Compare the executables and running services to another non-VR product that you believe meets your standards.
I don't expect you to do that though, since I already asked you to list the software you tried, and you are intent on avoiding it. In fact, you are very much intent on avoiding all specifics of what you did exactly. It's almost as if you just took a bunch of pictures of products in boxes, and that's it.
If you really did give your first venture in to VR a try, then post videos, screenshots, reviews, etc. Be specific. Because right now, with all your posts intentionally avoiding anything specific, it is starting to seem like a ruse. Sorry, just being honest!
07-12-2020 10:21 PM
comatrix said:
Here it says that my PC is not powerful enough on Half Life Alyx (see my configuration above)
comatrix said:
No way to close an app and start another one (it stays like this for HOURS), I need to close it from the task manager
comatrix said:
Not even 40FPS on Assetto Corsa (I reached almost 400FPS on normal screen, I agree that VR is demanding but it is what it is: it is 10 times less and it causes Motion Sickness)
07-12-2020 10:52 PM
07-13-2020 02:35 AM
comatrix said:
OK let's talk practically, keep in mind that my PC is an AMD 3700x, Asus Strix X570 F gaming, Asus Strix 2080 Super. 32GB of RAM G.Skill 3.600 CL 19, Corsair PSU 1.000i Platinum, 1TB NMVe PCIe M.2 2280, Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler.Here it says that my PC is not powerful enough on Half Life Alyx (see my configuration above)No way to close an app and start another one (it stays like this for HOURS), I need to close it from the task managerNot even 40FPS on Assetto Corsa (I reached almost 400FPS on normal screen, I agree that VR is demanding but it is what it is: it is 10 times less and it causes Motion Sickness)Should I continue? Or now do you understand what I mean?And I'm SO SORRY that I can't show how the graphics are displayed on the VR Headset, like the halos even on the Alyx Title at the beginning (on the white background), the flickering of the cables, the pixelated far view and so on, and you say this BLOW YOU OUT? Not al all to meEditOh and before someone says that I don't own that kind of configuration
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"