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A Possible Reason Why The Quest 2 is So Cheap ?

kevinw729
Honored Visionary
I am not sure if this has been discussed on this forum before - but I have been watching a couple of videos and was struck by a point raised and wanted to discuss this here.

The key premise is that:

>The Quest 2 is so cheap not only because of cost saving in the manufacturing process from the Quest-1 - but fundamentally Facebook are "loaning" this to users, with only the carriage and minimal costs being paid for. With this undertaking and acceptance of the terms and Facebook login the user is agreeing to using a Facebook subsidized device, rather than buying a product they wholly own. That would explain the various control issues of banning improper use, and the removal of access to what Facebook feels is their hardware.

[Facebook has subsidies the Quest-2 and ecosystem, and retain ownership of it]

I wonder how people feel about this, do they think the premise is incorrect and no matter what they wholly own their purchase? 
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959
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Zenbane
MVP
MVP


Its not overly complicated its done with most products. 



Very true. But it's super fun to overcomplicate things when it comes to Facebook lol

Pacman8030
Expert Protege
The data Facebook gathers on their users is worth more than the cost of the product. Why do you think a Facebook account is required to use it?

Zenbane
MVP
MVP


The data Facebook gathers on their users is worth more than the cost of the product. Why do you think a Facebook account is required to use it?



It would take years for a single user account to gain enough worth, to Facebook, to offset the cost of making the product.

 a US or Canadian user is worth $13.54 each quarter to Facebook, while someone in the Asia-Pacific region is only worth $1.59 to the social network.

If you happen to live in Europe, including the UK, you’re only worth one-third of a North American to Facebook, at $4.5o every three months, while the “rest of the world”, which includes most developing nations are only worth $1.22 per user.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/28/how-much-are-you-worth-to-facebook

kevinw729
Honored Visionary


The data Facebook gathers on their users is worth more than the cost of the product. Why do you think a Facebook account is required to use it?



Think it would be difficult to know the actual accumulated value - and also no one has really looked at the reality of how much worth gathering info from their users is worth.
https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

Zenbane
MVP
MVP

kevinw729 said:
Think it would be difficult to know the actual accumulated value - and also no one has really looked at the reality of how much worth gathering info from their users is worth.



Well, other than when all that was already done:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/28/how-much-are-you-worth-to-facebook

I'm sure there's more info out there as well, for those who want to spend time doing the research.

cmat100
Adventurer
Ask not what your value is now, ask what is your value in the future..........
Apologies to JFK and I'm back in the DeLorean 🙂

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

cmat100 said:

Ask not what your value is now, ask what is your value in the future..........
Apologies to JFK and I'm back in the DeLorean )



Like it.

Yeah, everyone undersells the value of tracked data, partly because they are unaware of the value, partly because those that deal in it do not want its true worth reported. All the major brands now invest only in monitored advertising.

Just saw this and had to share.

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https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

Shadowmask72
Honored Visionary
@hoppingbunny123 - This video is unavailable...




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hoppingbunny123
Rising Star


@hoppingbunny123 - This video is unavailable...




this is the video i got into trouble for, its still there, im in canada, might not be available in your country;

https://youtu.be/ujC4W8hJ4mg

Sharpfish
Heroic Explorer
Do any of you guys actually have fun playing or making stuff for VR or do you just sit around on forums worrying/complaining about literally everything you can until life has passed you by?. I swear some people just enjoy looking for issues instead of using *FUN* devices here and now and knowing that you can move on from this (cheap) device at any time if something about it doesn't suit you (i.e facebook account). 

I just see the same faces nit-picking oculus for years on here and over-analysing everything. Get Quest 2, use quest 2, have fun with Quest 2 for a great price... or don't. We all know why FB wanted to make it cheap and how they can make it cheap vs other smaller companies that have no 'return on investment' (ie HP with the G2 and no ecosystem or DRM of their own on the software side). Worry less, enjoy more.


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