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AMD Radeon Series RX 6000 video cards (Big Navi, 7nm, 6900 XT, 6800 (XT)) - reviews and impressions

RuneSR2
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Everything starts in 3 hours  B)

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Digikid1
Consultant
Not a fan of the ATI drivers so I'll pass.  HOWEVER this may drive the price of the 3080 down......so I will wait for that.

PhoenixSpyder
Rising Star
Alway's had Nvidia due to better drivers as said, always will due to Ti's. A stickler I am...

Glad there's competition now though...to keep green in line 😛

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RuneSR2
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Digikid1 said:

Not a fan of the ATI drivers so I'll pass.  HOWEVER this may drive the price of the 3080 down......so I will wait for that.


Read a discussion on Reddit - several users claimed they had not a single issue with the Radeon drivers. 

My experience with Radeon goes back to ATi - I guess something could have changed in the meantime, lol. 

I have no experience with the current AMD drivers. 

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RuneSR2
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RoadToVR seems happy  🙂

https://www.roadtovr.com/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt-6800-xt-price-release-date-specs/

https://youtu.be/3UiNwq9q-2M

Need to see performance tests using Intel cpus - seems a Ryzen 5000 cpu and Radeon 6000 combo may result in 6 - 12% more performance, and the AMD benchmark results shown yesterday were based on that combo. Thus using Intel cpus, results may be lower - maybe. 

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TomCgcmfc
MVP
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Until I start to see meaningful and definitive comparisons from independent users with Nvidia and AMD GPU's with VR I'm just going to stick with my 3 year old gtx1080ti.  While it's interesting to see 2D flat-screen results, these often do not always translate into equivalent VR results imho.

Neither Nvidia or AMD have not actually shown performance differences with any VR system using their new GPU's.  Pretty disappointing imho.  Also kinda disappointing that PCVR headset manufactures have not tested these new GPU's out by now as well.  Maybe they have and have found out there is not much in it, lol!  Who knows?

As far as CPU's go, I doubt I'll be rushing out to upgrade my current i9 9900k (oc'd to 5Ghz on all cores, water cooled, and very stable/cool) to the newest Intel and Ryzen CPU's which would require new motherboards.
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It was a good reveal and shines a little light on an already quite good power-to-price upgrade that Nvidia announced (compute power, not electrical power!).

I'll still be waiting for a 3070ti announcement but I'm about ready to give AMD a try if prices point that way. Not really concerned by their driver reputation as I think things have improved.

The 3070ti will have to be priced midway between 3070 and 3080 so probably £550 rrp but they can push the 3080ti price a bit more and GDDR6X prices are higher than GDDR6 so £150-£200 more for that card maybe?

RuneSR2
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TomCgcmfc said:

Until I start to see meaningful and definitive comparisons from independent users with Nvidia and AMD GPU's with VR I'm just going to stick with my 3 year old gtx1080ti.  While it's interesting to see 2D flat-screen results, these often do not always translate into equivalent VR results imho.

Neither Nvidia or AMD have not actually shown performance differences with any VR system using their new GPU's.  Pretty disappointing imho.  Also kinda disappointing that PCVR headset manufactures have not tested these new GPU's out by now as well.  Maybe they have and have found out there is not much in it, lol!  Who knows?

As far as CPU's go, I doubt I'll be rushing out to upgrade my current i9 9900k (oc'd to 5Ghz on all cores, water cooled, and very stable/cool) to the newest Intel and Ryzen CPU's which would require new motherboards.


You got similar performance as the 2080 and probably the upcoming 3060, not sure you need to upgrade anything. 

I tried Agos last night, it worked fine using my 1080 and Index res 200% with 2xMSAA. 

Upgrading my 1080 does feel like luxury, the games where I need it most are games where I only use CV1 due to TAA and even the SDE. Like Asgard's Wrath. And Stormland. 

Btw, too many jaggies on Agos no matter what I did with Index, refunded as Steam didn't support native Oculus drivers - going to buy the game in the Oculus Store today. 

Getting a 3090 or 6900XT primarily for CV1 does feel like some sort of overkill - but another target is 120+ Hz with the Index. Not sure the latter is worth more than let's say $200 to me, lol.

We need an AAA VR game that runs very badly on everything than 3080/6800XT!

Gnomes & Goblins could be such a game, but the game ran fine@asw2@CV1 last night after the new performance patch. Maybe I should write to the devs : "Please STOP making your game run great on my 1080, you're ruining EVERYTHING!"  😄

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jab
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I am also waiting for real world results before 1080ti upgrade. And just as I did with AMD vs Intel, I am willing to slightly favor AMD just to give Nvidia a message the only way they will listen.

TomCgcmfc
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jab said:

I am also waiting for real world results before 1080ti upgrade. And just as I did with AMD vs Intel, I am willing to slightly favor AMD just to give Nvidia a message the only way they will listen.


Don't buy anything to send messages.  Buy what you think works best imho.
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RuneSR2
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A bit late to the party, but I forgot to write this post 2 days ago. We can do it very quickly, like the sailor told the nun 😉

Tests below performed with an Intel cpu, thus no Ryzen advantages here. 

1. 6800XT (without Rage Mode) is 4% slower than 3080 - and 13% slower than 3090:

AVERAGE 4K PERFORMANCE IN 22 DIFFERENT GAMES

Average Gaming FPS FPS 3840x2160

Thus it's basically same speed as 3080 - furthermore activating vsync, many may find it close to impossible to consciously experience fps differences comparing 6800XT and 3090 😉

Power consumption is a lot better than both 3080 and 3090 though:

Graphics Card only Power Draw Average

6800XT uses 18% less power than 3080 - and 24% less than 3090. 

Maybe better to sum up:

Performance in 4K:
3090 = 100 %
3080 = 91 %
6800XT = 87 %
6800 = 76 %
3070 = 70 %

Power consumption:
3090 = 100 %
3080 = 93 %
6800XT = 76 %
3070 = 64 %
6800 = 61 %

Amazing to see AMD winning the battle of best power efficacy compared to achieved performance. 

3070 does win best performance per $, while the biggest loser in this category is 3090:

Performance per Dollar FPS 3840x2160

In short, 6800XT is basically same speed as 3080, but uses about 60 watts less power. 

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/

6900XT arrives December 8.  

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